787 & 777 dual quals at Scoot

[Spooky 2]

Do the Scoot 777 pilots also fly the 787 or are they single categories?

[RAD_ALT_ALIVE]

No idea. There are no Scoot bases in Aus/NZ, so you might want to pose the question on another forum.

[Spooky 2]

Thanks for the informative reply as I thought Soot was was a Qantas spin-off:confused:

[Capt Claret]

Nope, it's an SQ spinoff.

[Going Boeing]

Scoot is a LCC subsidiary of Singapore Airlines and was set up to tackle the Qantas subsidiary Jetstar (in its many forms). SQ was particularly peaved when JQ Asia was set up based in Singapore.

[PoppaJo]

Scoot Singapore has now just phased out the 777.

It's an all 787 operation now. Crew didn't operate both either from what I heard.

[Keg]

Isn't the 787 and 777 a dual endorsement?

[c100driver]

Not in New Zealand. Seperate type ratings so far.

Mind you NZ CAA don't recognise the B737CL and NG as a common type rating so they are not exactly out there!

[Skystar320]

Thanks for the informative reply as I thought Soot was was a Qantas spin-off

Damn - gotta clean my monitor now!

[Pontius]

Isn't the 787 and 777 a dual endorsement?

It is for many aviation authorities but that does not mean the operators are necessarily taking advantage of the fact. I believe BA and EY were making noises about flying both but I do not know if they've gone through with those plans.

[bangbounceboeing]

EY instructors fly both types with line drivers to follow in the new year.

[Chocks Away]

No it is not a "common type endorsement" (B777/787) in Singapore (CAAS) as a few other countries have.
Scoot have you on either on 777 or 787 for ease of bonding you exorbitant amounts (~SG$87,000). No more crew on 777 as all were forced onto 787, now that it's an all 787 fleet (still a couple of 777s hanging around the area). Those who delayed resigning an ADDITIONAL bond went to NokScoot/Bangkok which had big labour law problems (no surprise their!) and is now crew by Thia's.
Happy Landings :ok:

[Wirbelsturm]

It's a dual licence endorsement in the UK BUT it does require a 5 day differences course and has a minimum flight familiarisation requirement (once every 28 days I think) which would cause initial problems for BA due to the numbers of 787 aircraft.

The advantage of having dual rated pilots is now past from a financial perspective thus I don't see it happening.

Now, 787 and 777X, that's a different argument. :ok:

[Spooky 2]

Show me just one operator that is doing this differences/rating course in 5 days. Boeing did it as a proof of concept, but I can't imagine anyone else trying that?

[MakeItHappenCaptain]

Are any Airbus operators doing the same thing? (And that's with an aircraft that I believe was designed for flight deck commonality.)

[planeloader]

CX with the 330/340 ?

[sleeve of wizard]

Spooky 2, a couple of the airlines in the Middle East that have both are doing the 5 day differences course. Common type rating (like the 757/767) so no legal requirement to fly either within a set period, ATPL recency aside. :ok:

[bermudatriangle]

type rated on the 787 and my license came back with 777 in addition. never been near a 777 so go figure !

[Spooky 2]

Interesting as I'm sure that was bound to happen. Can't believe any pilot group would put up with a five day conversion but what ever.

[sleeve of wizard]

Don't forget that it's not just the pilot group that may have an influence, the local regulatory bodies have the final say as to the required length of course.
5 days is plenty if you put the work in, there are some subtle differences but there is also plenty of commonality. :ok:

[Denti]

Are any Airbus operators doing the same thing? (And that's with an aircraft that I believe was designed for flight deck commonality.)

Well, airbus operators usually do mixed fleet flying, as the types (with the exception of A350/A330) are not common typeratings but different ones. So pilots can use two typeratings under a relaxed training requirement scheme, but thats it. A320/A330 is kinda common, as is A330/A340. Theoretically A340/A380 could work too but i don't know of any airline that does it. I guess the most radical MFF airline is finnair as they plan to fly A320/A330/A350 as a mixed fleet. That is only possible because A330 and A350 are a common typerating, at least in the EU.

[Spooky 2]

As I recall the Boeing/FAA conversion consisted of 1 day LMS ground school, 2 days of FTD, 1 day for an oral and the 1 day fo the check ride in the FTD. No full flight simulator for this course.