Dynamic Airways 767 catches fire at FLL (Miami, Ft. Lauderdale)

[peekay4]

Dynamic Airways plane catches on fire at FLL (http://www.wsvn.com/story/30385071/dynamic-airways-plane-catches-on-fire-at-fll)

FORT LAUDERDALE-HOLLYWOOD INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, Fla. (WSVN) -- A Dynamic Airways plane caught on fire on the tarmac at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, Thursday.

The Boeing 767 passenger jet appears to have been taxiing when the left engine caught fire. The aircraft carries between 180 and 290 passengers. "I'm told one of the engines caught fire as the plane was taxiing, getting ready for departure. I don't know the number of people on board, and I don't know the condition of the people, but I was told the fire was put out by a fire rescue team on sight," said FLL spokesperson Greg Meyer.

Video (https://amp.twimg.com/amplify-web-player/prod/source.html?video_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideo.twimg.com%2Fext_tw _video%2F659770762207825920%2Fpu%2Fvid%2F360x640%2FiOtxzpLS0 Ug5QF3C.mp4&content_type=video%2Fmp4&image_src=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fext_tw_video_thumb%2 F659770762207825920%2Fpu%2Fimg%2FexvsR90z8Ys0Rbc_.jpg&video_owner_id=944600304&language_code=en&media_id=659770762207825920&json_rpc=1)

[peekay4]

ASN Aircraft accident Boeing 767-269ER N251MY Fort Lauderdale International Airport, FL (FLL) (http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20151029-0)

A Boeing 767-269ER operated by Dynamic Airways sustained damage in a fire accident at Fort Lauderdale International Airport, FL (FLL).
Photos from the scene suggest the fire started in the area of the no. 1 engine. The fire was quickly contained by fire services and the aircraft was evacuated.
Unconfirmed reports say the aircraft was taxiing for departure to Caracas, Venezuela

Also unconfirmed reports that fuel was seen "spilling from the left engine" prior to the fire.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/29/17/2DEAD91600000578-3295437-image-a-37_1446138517330.jpg

[oldoberon]

more videos here, second one down shows it well underway black smoke billowing up

Dynamic Airways Flight Catches Fire At Fort Lauderdale Airport, Passengers Evacuated By Emergency Slides (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/10/29/dynamic-airways-flight-fire-lauderdale-airport_n_8421852.html?1446140270&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067)

[mingocr83]

FLL closed that runway as of now. Pilot taxing behind the Dynamic 767 reported a massive Oil Leak. By the photos from other places looks like uncontained engine failure...

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12065485_10207845944443440_6018718259477741663_n.jpg?oh=94e1 d8f20828302662ece3fb11fdc801&oe=56CA5072

[tdracer]

JT9D-7R4 engines, delivered March 1986.

[wanabee777]

Who are the principle owners of Dynamic Airways?

The aircraft has a somewhat checkered past but I suppose that's not unusual given it's age.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Boeing/767/23280/N251MY-Dynamic-Airways

[Eclectic]

The passenger evacuation looks interesting:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSgZuZqWsAAO0Bd.png

[peekay4]

Who are the principle owners of Dynamic Airways?

Paul Kraus, founder of Jet Midwest (http://www.jetmidwest.com) (MRO / parts supplier).

Ken Woolley, founder of Extra Space (http://www.extraspace.com) (self-storage company) and part owner of Swift Aviation, LLC (http://www.flyswiftair.com/Default.aspx) in Phoenix.

Between them they own 80% of Dynamic Airways.

Their CEO is Gregg Lukenbill, the former owner of the Sacramento Kings (http://www.nba.com/kings/) NBA team. He turned the King's single charter airplane into an airline (Sky King) which flew NHL teams around the country. After a couple of bankruptcies they are now known as Songbird Airways.

[SeenItAll]

At least in the pictures I have seen, none of the Pax have been carrying hand baggage. :D

[beamender99]

Seven taken to hospital after plane engine catches fire - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/34670742)

All passengers were evacuated safely, although the BBC has confirmed seven were taken to the hospital.
The seven patients are at Florida Broward Health Medical Center in Fort Lauderdale and the hospital expects to receive up to 15 total passengers.

One person has been "seriously burnt", according to Mike Jachles of the Broward County Sheriff's Office.

[Airbubba]

Pilot taxing behind the Dynamic 767 reported a massive Oil Leak.

Actually he thought it might be fuel but he wasn't sure. The fire call came seconds later.

ATC Audio posted to YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEmoq1v6A_0

[PastTense]

News Conference:
Authorities hold new conf. on FLL plane fire | News - Home (http://www.local10.com/news/authorities-hold-new-conf-on-fll-plane-fire/36124932)

[misd-agin]

UA 1290. Geez. Think you're going anywhere soon? There's a fire. Worry about what departure runway you'll get when the fire situation is taken care of.

[SMT Member]

'Shouldn't' happen, but these things do let go from time to time. Glad this was another case of it ending without anything but scorched metal and few injuries.

Evacuating down the side of the fire, however, does invite questions as to how and why that decision was reached.

[Rodney Rotorslap]

Pattern emerging? Another left engine. Ground all left engines.

[Union Jack]

"I'm told one of the engines caught fire as the plane was taxiing, getting ready for departure. I don't know the number of people on board, and I don't know the condition of the people, but I was told the fire was put out by a fire rescue team on sight," said FLL spokesperson Greg Meyer.

Call that a spokesperson?:sad:

Jack

[wanabee777]

No question about it, those FLL and LAS ARFF crews are top notch!!

I'm grateful for the dedication and professionalism of the men and women worldwide who are willing, on a daily basis, to place the lives of passengers and crew before their own.

Thank you for being there for us!!

[sabbasolo]

I listened to the ATC recording - seems strange to me that after the pilot behind him reported a large fuel leak pilot (or co-pilot) said we will return to the gate.

I would shut down immediately if someone said on the radio that I was leaking fuel.

[PILOTINHO]

I agree wanabee777. This guys make a wonderful job at Las Vegas and FLL. Pilots have only 2 fire extinguishers per engine and sometimes isn't enough, what remains is the Airport fire fighting team. Thanks again to these Guys...

[Volume]

The engine fire extinguishers are just for fire inside the engine nacelle.
Fuel pooling on the ground and burning is not impressed too much by that system...

looks like uncontained engine failure...
Looks more like massive fire damage to composites

[Wageslave]

I'm grateful for the dedication and professionalism of the men and women worldwide who are willing, on a daily basis, to place the lives of passengers and crew before their own.

Not wishing to do the fire crews down but remember that pilots and cabin crew do this in shortsleeved shirts and trousers (sic) from inside the burning aeroplane while the fire crews are 50yds away squirting foam from an armoured truck while dressed from head to foot in nomex.

[PastTense]

Federal investigators on Friday launched a probe of an airliner fire at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport that observers speculated could have been sparked by fuel leaking from the plane.
National Transportation Safety Board investigators said they will be examining whether fuel was leaking from the Venezuelan-bound Dynamic International Airways jet before takeoff on Thursday, as witnesses observed.
NTSB investigator in charge Tim LeBaron told news reporters that the agency’s four-person team will try to determine the root of the fire in the Boeing 767’s left engine.
“I know there’s been a lot people saying that fuel was coming from the airplane,” LeBaron said at the airport. “Well, they saw a fluid coming from the airplane. We don’t know at this point if it was fuel or not.
“So that’s one of the things that we look at.”
NTSB investigators will also examine the airliner’s data recorders, maintenance history and other records.
LeBaron said NTSB will issue a preliminary report in five days, another report in six months and final findings in a year.

NTSB launches probe of airliner fire at Fort Lauderdale airport | Miami Herald (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article41994951.html)

[N707ZS]

Could it be the cheap price of fuel keeping these old birds in the air? No matter how well maintained they are with everything ticked and signed, age is going to catch up with them.

[Oilhead]

Wageslave

Firefighters are all heroes in my book. They are the ones running into a situation (and sometimes dying in the process or at least getting severely injured) while the rest of us are running away from it.

OH

[wanabee777]

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/5pda2j/picture41998185/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/APTOPIX%20Plane%20FireThe rescue team unit of the ARFF responders, (the ones with the compressed air bottles on their backs), are the individuals tasked with going into the cabin and cockpit to make certain that no one is left behind after the evacuation, regardless of an active fire in progress.

[scoobydoo44]

With due respect to cabin crew you don't really tackle engine fires and as for being 50m away ... I think you will find an internal fire means firefighters are entering the aircraft as your leaving

[skidbuggy]

Video of the evacuation. Pay attention to the man that falls face down and doesn't move by the tail of the jet.

https://www.facebook.com/abcnews/videos/10153866917358812/

Slag away....

[wanabee777]

Observe the effect of a running right engine on 2R slide.:eek:

[Blink182]

Overwing slide on the R/H side also not deployed despite overwing exit opened

[RobertS975]

One thing that struck me was the way the fire truck flies down the tarmac despite the fact that there are people running about. IIRC, one of the deaths from Asiana SFO was caused by a fire vehicle hitting the person. I realize that the trucks need to get foam on the fire ASAP, and maybe the long distance lens changes the perspective.

[wanabee777]

If the same scenario happened at night or in low visibility, especially with a full, widebody, aircraft, it would be very difficult for the fire apparatus drivers to avoid hitting evacuating passengers.

The drivers' visibility, especially their peripheral vision, is extremely limited by their head gear.

[wanabee777]

Also notice the railroad tank cars in the background just off the east end of runway 10L/28R.

These are full of highly flammable ethanol waiting to be transferred to Port Everglades about a mile further east. The ethanol is mixed with gasoline at the port before shipment to area petrol stations.

[JPJP]

wanabee777 -If the same scenario happened at night or in low visibility, especially with a full, widebody, aircraft, it would be very difficult for the fire apparatus drivers to avoid hitting evacuating passengers.

The drivers' visibility, especially their peripheral vision, is extremely limited by their head gear.


Many years ago I had the pleasure of landing a multi engine turboprop with a gear failure at a major airport in the U.S. There was an impressive response from the very well equipped ARFF.

After the excitement had died down, we were standing around waiting for the equipment to remove the aircraft from the runway. I sat in one of the trucks and received a fascinating briefing. The vehicle had a huge spike on the roof that could inject foam into the aircraft. It was also equipped with image intensifying drivers equipment and infrared technology. The Firefighter informed me that they were able to drive at speed in almost zero visibility at night.

I'd never seen this particular type of vehicle before, and I didn't see one in the footage from the SFO Asiana crash. Apparently part of the funding for it was provided by the very large cargo company that inhabits the airport.

[wanabee777]

In that case, I hope both FLL and MIA have such equally equipped ARFF vehicles.

[Solar]

On the clip posted by skidbuggy it's frightening to see how many passengers are carrying bags and in at least one case carrying two bags, some people don't deserve saving.

On the other side of the coin at the aft R/H door it looks like there is a presumably aircrew person doing and amazing job of getting people out, whoever they are they deserve a medal.

[chuboy]

A medal for doing their jobs? :hmm:

[rjtjrt]

On the other side of the coin at the aft R/H door it looks like there is a presumably aircrew person doing and amazing job of getting people out, whoever they are they deserve a medal.

If I am seeing same person, I think that person is part of airport response. They arrived in a white SUV with flashing lights that they parked and ran across to rear slide. First they pulled slide to straighten it after right engine shutdown, then continued to assisted evac.

[wanabee777]

It must have been a cabin initiated evacuation. Obviously, the flight crew had yet to perform the evacuation checklist.

[Solar]

rjtjrt
The person that I am referring to appears to be a flight attendant, he (looks male) looks to be ushering people on to the aft door slide and then as the last passenger is on the slide he disappears back into the aircraft and reappears out of the front door. I think it's safe to assume he went back to check that all passengers were off.
That to me takes guts when you see the volume of smoke and flames, so it may be just his job but he does it extremely well and all kudos to him.
Fair play to the guy that straightened the slide of course as well.

[headflight]

The last two out forward on that vid, white shirts and black trousers, probably the pilot or FA. One runs back across the burning plane to assist with the injured pax on the ground behind the tail. :cool:

[B2N2]

The forward slide deployed on the fire side.....*shudder* :eek:

[wanabee777]

Video of the evacuation. Pay attention to the man that falls face down and doesn't move by the tail of the jet.

https://www.facebook.com/abcnews/vid...3866917358812/ (https://www.facebook.com/abcnews/videos/10153866917358812/)

Slag away....

It appears the man face down on the tarmac may have been blown over by the jet blast from the right engine which was still running when 2R slide was deployed.

[olasek]

Unlikely that he was blown by idling engine so far away. The description says he was running and fell and injured his head.

[wanabee777]

The right engine may have been somewhat above idle, especially if the pilots were motoring the left engine trying to squelch the fire.

[porterhouse]

There are a lot of people running around much closer to the right engine's exhaust and they aren't being knocked down. So highly unlikely cause-and-effect. Also "motoring whatever engine" isn't a recommended/approved procedure during evacuation/fire.

[wanabee777]

The left engine may have caught fire during a delayed engine start while taxiing. The pilots would have had the right engine pushed up in order to get enough cross bleed air pressure to start the left engine.

[porterhouse]

Regardless what was happening with the right engine - no other passengers seem affected by it, some visibly much closer to the engine and even dwell for a few seconds at the base of the slide.

[misd-agin]

If the APU was running they wouldn't need to cross bleed start.
And I doubt they were still trying to start the engine while they were evacuating.

[YRP]

The right engine was still running at the start of that video. You can see the smoke blown by the jet exhaust. Presumably the engine is what blew the slide back.

It seems plausible to me that the person was knocked down by jetblast. The engine was shut down soon after, so other people were not affected.

[wanabee777]

Regardless what was happening with the right engine - no other passengers seem affected by it, some visibly much closer to the engine and even dwell for a few seconds at the base of the slide.

Look closer. There is at least one other evacuee who goes down but gets back up.

[sandos]

Unlikely that he was blown by idling engine so far away. The description says he was running and fell and injured his head.

Sure, that is possible. But you don't fall down without trying to stop your face from sliding on the pavement if you are feeling well. I have a strong suspicion that that person was unconscious for whatever reason before hitting the ground.

[wanabee777]

From USA Today:

Investigators: Dynamic plane's fuel-line was disconnected before fire (http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2015/11/03/ntsb-dynamic-airways-fire/75090482/)

[peekay4]

Thanks wanabee777 for the heads up. Below is from Aviation Times:

NTSB Investigative Update on Dynamic International Airways Flight 405 November 3, 2015

WASHINGTON -- As part of its ongoing investigation into the October 29, 2015, airplane fire during taxi of Dynamic International Airways flight 405, a Boeing 767, at Fort Lauderdale–Hollywood International Airport (FLL), Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, the NTSB today released the following investigative update.

• The NTSB found that the main fuel supply line coupling assembly had disconnected in the wing-to-engine strut above and behind the left engine. This coupling assembly has been retained for further examination.
• Examination of the left engine revealed no evidence of an engine uncontainment or other failure.
• The lower inboard portion of the left wing, left engine cowling, and left fuselage center section sustained thermal damage. The fire did not penetrate the fuselage.
• The FDR/CVR were transported to the NTSB Recorders Laboratory in Washington, DC, and are being downloaded and evaluated.
• The NTSB is reviewing the airplane maintenance records at Dynamic International Airways’ headquarters in North Carolina. According to the aircraft records, the accident airplane was in dry storage for approximately 29 months until September 2015 when Dynamic International Airways leased the airplane. Dynamic International Airways has operated the airplane for about 240 hours under the present lease.
• An initial review of the airplane onboard logbook revealed there was no entry of maintenance action having been performed in the area of the fuel coupling prior to the accident flight while in FLL.
• NTSB investigators have interviewed the two flight crew members and nine cabin crew members.
• Of the 90 passengers and 11 crewmembers onboard the airplane, one was seriously injured and 21 sustained minor injuries as a result of the emergency evacuation.
• Dynamic International Airways has issued a Fleet Campaign Directive to inspect the remainder of their aircraft to ensure proper installation of the fuel line coupling assemblies.

Investigators expect to complete the onsite investigation today

[bafanguy]

Looks like Dynamic is rebranding as Eastern Airlines and adding 767s. Let the pilot hiring begin !!



https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/65344-dynamic-intl-airways-to-rebrand-as-eastern-air-lines

[rog747]

i guess the 767 that burned was a write off?

[Mk 1]

"I'm told one of the engines caught fire as the plane was taxiing, getting ready for departure. I don't know the number of people on board, and I don't know the condition of the people, but I was told the fire was put out by a fire rescue team on sight," said FLL spokesperson Greg Meyer.

Call that a spokesperson?:sad:

Jack

Worse - call that a trained journalist. I'm guessing is that the fire crews were on SITE.

[Zlinguy]

i guess the 767 that burned was a write off?

The airframe was chopped up last year, however, the engines are still sitting in a parking lot on the northwest side of the airport.