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stonemullion
14th Oct 2015, 14:27
Perhaps someone can help with a puzzle that's been on my mind for some time:-


I'm at constant altitude and constant airspeed into a strong headwind. My ground speed is zero. As I understand it in this scenario lift equals weight and thrust equals drag.


The thing is I've watched Kestrels doing this many times at Reigate Hill and since even a bird must have some drag I can only conclude that a Kestrel has a hidden means of propulsion.


Am I missing something? (apart from a life that is)

Mark 1
14th Oct 2015, 15:34
The thing you're missing is that the bird needs an updraught to hover without any work input.

It doesn't take much, just the effect of a small ridge, up-slope or building and a steady breeze.

exuw
14th Oct 2015, 15:56
You're also missing a dictionary, mate.

(Sorry - couldn't resist.) :)

Airbanda
14th Oct 2015, 16:18
I think updraught is the answer given OP's observation site. A 'windhover' over flat land is constantly exercising it's wings.

Intruder
15th Oct 2015, 09:06
There can be updrafts over flat land. I've done a lot of soaring over south Texas...