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Kiwiflyer92
1st Aug 2015, 23:37
Hi,
Could someone please shed some light on this for me, I am trying to work out my air transport time. I was flying with a flight examiner on commercial operation (surveillance air work - have logged as dual).. am I right not to include this time as ATO time. Using NZCAA rules.
Cheers.
LeadSled
2nd Aug 2015, 01:10
surveillance air work - have logged as dualWhy is that dual, were you under training?
Why was the fact that the other pilot also an ATO relevant to the flights.
With the very greatest of respect, don't rely on somewhere like this for a binding ruling, go read your regulations very carefully
Tootle pip!!
chimbu warrior
2nd Aug 2015, 01:12
It depends on what type of operation you are seeking experience credit for. If, for example, you are determining experience for PIC of a part 121 operation, the rules state :
500 hours in the type of operations to which this Part
applies or in equivalent operations that are acceptable to
the Director
I am assuming that the equivalent operations acceptable to the director refer to using 121 time for 125 or 135 operations etc.
All the Kiwi rules were updated on Friday, although the changes appear to be minor.
deadcut
2nd Aug 2015, 03:35
Other than flight training and type ratings/renewals I don't think you should be logging commercial operations as dual. It's a useless column.
It's a shame NZ logbooks don't have PICUS columns.
It's a shame NZ logbooks don't have PICUS columns.
Probably because there's no provision for PICUS in the NZ rules.
Back to the original question. Who was P in C? I'm presuming the Flight Examiner?
Was it an ATO or just CTO?
I think there's enough doubt about whether or not it can be counted as ATO.
I'm presuming your question is in relation to hours for a job application. I would note the time separately and let the prospective employer make the call whether or not to accept it.
If it's for a higher licence (probably unlikely I think) then I'd leave it out. There's nothing worse than finding these hours are not accepted when the logbook summary is checked for your flight test.
Best option call CAA licensing and ask them.