Ferry routes

[zac21]

Hi all, Have flown the Pacific from North America to Australia / NZ, but now looking for a safe route via Alaska, Russia etc with the shortest legs.

Is there someone who has that experience via the Northern route please give some advise re: route, refuelling, customs, etc.

Asking this as the proposed A/C has limited range and can't cross the Pacific.

Cheers, Zac

[Above The Clouds]

Can you not fit ferry tanks for the Pacific ?

[zac21]

We would if it were possible,

[dallas]

What type?

[zac21]

Irrelevant sir, the question I was asking was routing on the northern route to the Pacific.

Thanks,:ok:

[g450cpt]

Well what is the range/endurance, speed, optimum altitude, registration, does it take avgas or jet fuel? What two city pairs are you trying to link? You will have to give a little more info than what was given.

[zac21]

OK,, I will ask again,

What is the normal routing to the Pacific Region in light aircraft from North America via Alaska, Russia and Japan please.
:ugh:

[g450cpt]

And I will reply again. What you consider a light aircraft and I consider a light aircraft might be two different things. You may be thinking single engine piston and I may be thinking VLJ. I may suggest a tech stop that only has jet fuel and that wouldn't do you much good if you are flying a piston. I really don't care what the make and model is or the full registration but it would help if you gave more insight on what the aircraft is capable of doing i.e. range, speed, altitude, country of registry (rules vary by different CAA authorities), etc...

[dc9-32]

Avgas is not available in Russia so that may help the chap if indeed he is flying a non JETA1 machine.

[Above The Clouds]

Avgas is available in Russia, its just not easy to find out where unless you are Russian. If you cannot fit ferry tanks assuming you have very limited range will make your requested routing almost impossible, eastern Russia has very limited access to airports in that region for non Russian registered aircraft and non Russian citizens, maybe if you advise of the type I could help you more as I fly regulary in Russia. Otherwise to miss Russia you would have to fly down through the Aleutian Isles then directly to Japan assuming you can get permission to operate in to some of the US airbases.

[dallas]

The type, and therefore capabilities, seem to be classified :rolleyes:

[deefer dog]

What is the normal routing to the Pacific Region in light aircraft from North America via Alaska, Russia and Japan please.
:ugh:

And we ask again what type, what range, what city pairs? It is us who should be banging heads, not you! :ugh:

[CL300]

so it is a small aircraft, then the easiest is a CONTAINER !!!!!

[CaptainProp]

Many airports in Russia still requires you to carry an approved translater....

CP

[megan]

And we ask again what type, what range, what city pairs? It is us who should be banging heads, not you!Dead right. I'm working on the basis it's one of these.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/AirBorne_XT912_Tourer_microlight.jpg/800px-AirBorne_XT912_Tourer_microlight.jpg

[Romeo Tango]

I flew the following route in a light single in 2009 (with others):
Ulaan Baatar
Chita
Chulman
Yakutsk
Magadan
Anadyr
Nome

We had to truck in our own avgas from Kazakhstan apart from Anadyr where there was a cache of drums that had been under a snowdrift for half a decade or so.

There was petrol of a sort in the big places (eg Yakutsk) .... apparently ok in AN-2 but I would not trust it in my aircraft and I have used mogas on occasion.

[fleigle]

I know of somebody who flew a Premier 1A to/from OZ/California a few times via the eastern Pacific, quite a few years ago now though.

If you seriously want some information I could probably connect you with him.

You'd probably need to wind your neck in a bit though, head-banging people when they are trying to help doesn't go over well.
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[CL300]

Enlighten myself.. Ferry, means "Flying an "aircraft" from A to B in order to either : deliver it to a new owner, or in order to pick-up pax for a subsequent flight" is it ?

On the basis that the above definition fits the "Ferry" concept, is it safe to say that this "unknown" light aircraft will not be used to carry pax on the subsequent flight flight, but is going to be delivered to a new owner, otherwise it would be a "trip" no ?

If the aircraft albeit "unknown" is : Single-Pilot, has less than 500Nm range, run on AVGAS, then it fits into a container; if it does not fit any of the above then the planning phase would take more time than the flight itself, just be cautious, not to meet Solar Impulse on the way down...mind you they have no fuel issue.

[Above The Clouds]

@ zac21

Some days ago I offered to help you with your request but as you cannot be bothered to even acknowledge my offer makes me wonder why you asked the question, good luck with your routing.

ATC

[No Fly Zone]

As a couple of others have noted, the best best it probably to remove the wings, put it in a CONTAINER and ship it by freighter. It may take a little longer, but will cost far less and be faaaaaar safer. Long distance ferry, over water in a light single is certainly considered High Risk Flying.
(And if you really want some help, provide details that matter. You might start with the airplane's published range. Duh?):eek:

[JammedStab]

What type?

[MungoP]

You need to read the previous posts JS.
Most of us I suspect believe it's a newly developed stealth fighter from Area 51.:hmm:

[EatMyShorts!]

They did it as well: LINK (https://www.pilotundflugzeug.de/artikel/2013-08-29/Leserreise_2013_Around_the_World/page3)
It is written in German, so you may want to read it through Google Translator or similar.

[CL300]

the post is from 2015, not from 2013 :-) The route is doable i have done it in a G2, years ago but we had a theoretical 2000Nm range. But with no clues from the initial poster, none can answer. If he / she wants to know if it is possible, yes it is, BUT , for any other help he/she has to spill the beans...

[con-pilot]

I would suspect that the OP does not have the contract signed to ferry this mystery aircraft from point A to B and is fearful of giving out any more information because he/she is way over his head.

And he/she wants someone here to do their homework for them.


But that’s just a guess.

[Above The Clouds]

Its not you know who under a new Pprune identity is it :ooh:

[Tinstaafl]

Could be - if the OP also wants an experienced pilot 'to come along for the ride', and if there's been an upsurge in MS FS flight planning lately...

[takethe5th]

I don't think zac21 is actually Ruprecht.
zac21's join date is 2002 which is when RW would be about 9 years old, no?
In addition, I thought the grammar was pretty ok :E

[pithblot]

zac21, I dunno why these guys are being so unfair to you and why they seem to be getting a bit annoyed because you aren't forthcoming with basic details to help answer your question. It's as if they think ferrying an aircraft has a complication or two - you know, "that old chestnut".

Old Chestnut indeed! Ha. We know that ferrying any aircraft is no more complicated than; becomming a gynaecologist, playing the flute, splitting an atom, constructing a box girder bridge, irrigating the Sahara Desert or Ridding the World of All Known Diseases (http://youtu.be/tNfGyIW7aHM)

pithblot

[stilton]

Or spelling :eek::eek: