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Transsonic2000
22nd May 2015, 23:52
As mentioned in the headline, is it possible to transfer the ATP (theoretical) exam results (all passed) to another EASA state without sitting the exams in that country again? Background is, this specific EASA member state says that the theoretical exams as well as the practical (flying) part must be done within it's territory.
RedBullGaveMeWings
23rd May 2015, 15:00
What country is that, if you don't mind me asking? I wouldn't be surprised if it was Italy...
Anyway, ATPL exams are EASA and are valid everywhere in Europe. There's absolutely no difference between them. If you want your licence to be issued by a specific EASA country, you need to transfer your medical certificate to that specific country because your licence can be issued only by the country that holds your medical record.
You need the SOLI form to be released by the country that holds your current medical record.
Transsonic2000
23rd May 2015, 15:43
Thanks for your reply RedBull, it's very much appreciated!
No, it's not Italy.
I must correct myself - I've erased my previous comment. After re-visiting the website of the Swiss CAA and carefully reading the information provided (see below), it appears that I was mistaken (unfortunately the wording is a bit misleading) and it is possible to take the theoretical exams in one country and the practical part in another EASA state, provided that the previous instruction (preparation) took place in the same country. Meaning if you attended ground school in country A you must take the exams in country A as well (was probably different under JAA rules). And if you took flying lessons at an ATO (flight school) in country B you must take the skills test (checkride) in the same country.
5. Training
Under the EASA Rules, all practical and theoretical training must be dispensed in a flight school, a so-called "approved training organisation" (ATO). Simple self-study of the theory, which was previously possible for private pilots, sailplane pilots and balloonists, is no longer admissible. The attendance of a course in an ATO is mandatory. Nor is it possible to train and undergo testing in different countries. The testing (theoretical or practical) must take place in the same country as the instruction. A list of ATOs will be published in due course on the FOCA website.
source: FOCA - Introduction of the European Regulation concerning Aircrew Licences (Part.FCL) (http://www.bazl.admin.ch/experten/ausbildung_lizenzen/03167/03168/03169/index.html?lang=en)
If you want your licence to be issued by a specific EASA country, you need to transfer your medical certificate to that specific country because your licence can be issued only by the country that holds your medical record.
You need the SOLI form to be released by the country that holds your current medical record. Never heard of a SOLI Form, what's that?
EC DKN
23rd May 2015, 17:54
Well I am not sure at all but check this link: https://www.easa.europa.eu/the-agency/member-states.
Seems that Switzerland is not actually an EASA member. But anyway, the process takes their time, too many bureaucratic things between, at least if you want to transfer your medicals from Spain to UK...
It wouldn't surprise me that Switzerland is non-standard, some of their modular courses are. At least EASA wise.
That looks like the old JAA rule. Under EASA, you can do the training in any state, but you can't split it - i.e. theory in one state practical in another is OK, but no 6 exams in one state and 6 in another.
Transsonic2000
23rd May 2015, 19:26
Thanks everybody for your respond, it's very much appreciated!
Thanks for the link EC DKN. Switzerland is definitely a member of the EASA, the asterisk means that it's a member without voting rights, same like Norway.
@ Paco:
That looks like the old JAA rule. Under EASA, you can do the training in any state, but you can't split it - i.e. theory in one state practical in another is OK, but no 6 exams in one state and 6 in another. Thanks, that's exactly what I mean
PilotLZ
9th Sep 2016, 15:21
I am in a similar situation now. I presently hold an EASA PPL issued by the UK CAA and I would like to commence ATPL groundschool with a UK-based ATO (CATS in Luton). However, after course completion, I would prefer to sit the 14 exams in my home country, Bulgaria, purely for financial considerations - the CAA fees, which are €5 per exam in Bulgaria, as opposed to £68 per exam in the UK. I couldn't find any formal statement with regards to this, apart from the requirement to sit all 14 exams within the same state. Would it be possible?
Actually, we get that all the time - we have students taking exams in Norway, Finland, Germany, Ireland, etc. You have to get the Authority in the country concerned to recognise the school, i.e. to accept the certificate issued by (in our case) the UK.
In th case of Ireland, they state that it is up to the student to support their application with the certificate.
Phil
PilotLZ
10th Sep 2016, 12:36
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience! On the other end, is there any complicated admin in sending the results from the state where the exams were taken to the state of licence issue? I guess that there is a procedure in place given that it all happens within EASA, but just in case.
That would be something local I guess.
Phil
flybyschool
12th Sep 2016, 20:47
We just had a guy who did his studying in the UK but took the ground exams with us in Spain. No issues at all (apart from certificates from the involved ATO)
He is now a happy holder of an ATPL theory that he can take to any other EASA ATO to complete his training
Regards
Alex
Sailor_310
10th May 2018, 03:19
I am in a similar situation now. I presently hold an EASA PPL issued by the UK CAA and I would like to commence ATPL groundschool with a UK-based ATO (CATS in Luton). However, after course completion, I would prefer to sit the 14 exams in my home country, Bulgaria, purely for financial considerations - the CAA fees, which are €5 per exam in Bulgaria, as opposed to £68 per exam in the UK. I couldn't find any formal statement with regards to this, apart from the requirement to sit all 14 exams within the same state. Would it be possible?
PilotLZ,
I am wondering if you ended up taking the ATPL exams in Bulgaria. If so, would you recommend it. Did you come across with any administrative difficulties?
I am also considering taking the exams in Bulgaria since it is closer to my home country and i am trying to get in touch with people who has done so before.
Any help from anyone would be greatly appreciated.