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leonard17F
14th Apr 2015, 08:13
All,

I am looking for a training center for an Initial TR (inc. Ground School) on a B737-400 (w CFM engines), preferably in Europe.
I have heard of Brussels, Prague...
What is your take on these schools and do you happen to know other potential centers ?

FlyingStone
14th Apr 2015, 08:56
Go to the one your employer sends you.

Oh, wait...

RedBullGaveMeWings
14th Apr 2015, 12:31
Baltic Aviation Academy. Quality-wise their course might not be the best, but this is reflected on the price.

B737900er
14th Apr 2015, 17:19
B737-400 (w CFM engines)? B737 only come with CFM!!

JQKA
14th Apr 2015, 17:27
Redbull..
I rather go to Air BAltic in Riga, Latvia and
Never in Baltic Aviation Academy, Vilnius, Lithuania..

Leonard ask, check Air Baltic web site.....
And are you going to enroll in pay2fly in Enter air(poland) ?....hope you have an idea...

leonard17F
17th Apr 2015, 06:57
All,

Thanks a lot for your valuable inputs.

I am not very familiar with the Boeing A/C's... (hence my comment reg the CFM engines, sorry ...) :ugh:
It will be the "classic" avionics.

After checking, it seems that there is no more "classic" Sim in Brussels...

And No, I am NOT going to enroll in such a scheme as pay to fly.... :=

And Yes my company will pay for it.... :D

B737900er
17th Apr 2015, 07:56
If the company is paying for it then they will already have the details and you can just sit back and go to whatever sim they are willing to pay for.

The UK has 5-6 Classic sims alone.

JQKA
17th Apr 2015, 15:21
Leonard17F,
at this pointI don0't understand why asking if your Company have in charge everything!

Anyway in Germany at Berlin FTO they have some 737 CL, at Air baltic RIga, and BAA Vilnius to stay close:E in these area.

leonard17F
17th Apr 2015, 15:32
To be clear to everyone:

I am not flying in an airline, but I am a Test Pilot for an Aircraft and Avionics/Weapons Systems manufacturer.
The B737 is our Flying Test Bed and I will get qualified on it.
It is obviously a very small structure and we do not send our pilots systematically to the same training center.
We sent pilots to PanAm academy in Florida in the past, to Brussels and to Prague more recently and we always look for the best ROI, i.e. reasonably cheap if possible but good quality training.....

Hope this sheds a clearer light on my request.
Thanks a lot everybody.;)

JQKA
17th Apr 2015, 18:01
:ok: Gotcha!
So please look About us : (http://www.airbaltictraining.com/en/about-us/)
Cheap & best in that Area-

RedBullGaveMeWings
17th Apr 2015, 21:32
Cheap and quality cannot be in the same sentence most of the time. BAA TR courses are cheap and this is reflected on the quality of their courses.
There's a good TRTO in Amsterdam which I can't remind the name of and there's Cockpit4U in Berlin.


EDIT
I have just noticed JQKA linked you to Air Baltic, so disregard. I know nothing about their courses.

cavok_flyer
18th Apr 2015, 12:58
An armed 737?
Cool.... :ok: Top Gun here we come!!!
(Sorry, couldn't resist. Studying for W&B is making me bonkers.)

B737900er
18th Apr 2015, 21:43
Cavok flyer....check out the USAF Boeing P-8 Poseidon.

leonard17F
29th Apr 2015, 06:40
All,

Thanks a lot for your inputs so far.

On top of the foreign validation, we are trying to add an FAA checkride but all the TRTO's that we have approached so far in Europe do NOT provide this.
And bringing an FAA TRE from the US might be VERY expensive and difficult (the Sim Box needs to be approved as well, for example, correct ?).

Any valuable idea please ?

cavok_flyer
29th Apr 2015, 18:32
Yeah, ok. I'm not up on what squids drive :rolleyes:

B737900er
29th Apr 2015, 19:14
The FAA only issue initial TR in the states but then you can get it renewed/revalidated by a freelance TRE/Check airman.

Boeing Training in the UK used to have a in house airman but he has now retired so I have heard.

My suggestion is to do the TR in the US as it will only cost you around $8000 and no base training required. But good luck flying in EU land if you wish to fly on an EU registered aircraft.

latecoere240
30th Apr 2015, 03:24
You have Czech Aviation Training Centre in Prague : Czech Aviation Training Centre (http://www.catc.cz)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luyy9S0hHcw