Seiran
14th Apr 2015, 04:19
Hello all,
Just a bit of confusion going on with my licence and privileges. I have IAP 2D and 3D on my licence however on my flight test I only have done an ILS and an RNAV.
Part 61.680 subsection (5) states that:
(5) The holder of an instrument rating is authorised to conduct an instrument approach operation in an aircraft using a procedure of a particular kind only if the holder has:
(a) completed training in the conduct of instrument approach operations using the procedure; and
(b) demonstrated, to a person mentioned in subregulation (6), his or her competence in the conduct of instrument approach operations using the procedure.
Does the "procedure" mentioned here refer to a 2D or 3D procedure, an azimuth or CDI procedure or each procedure individually, NDB, VOR, DGA etc? There is no reference in the Part 61 regulation.
Going over to the Flight Crew Licencing Procedures Manual;
Part 10.3.1
Under Part 61 there is no differentiation with respect to grade of Instrument Rating ie there
are no command or co-pilot grades issued. The Instrument Rating will only differ between
holders on the basis of the endorsements they hold on their respective ratings.
Instrument approach privileges are not derived from the navigation aid but are given on the
basis of the design of the approach, being either 2 dimensional or 3 dimensional. The 3
dimensional approach differs in that it provides final approach guidance in the vertical
dimension in addition to lateral guidance.
So a holder of 2 dimensional instrument approach endorsement (2D) can fly any 2D
approach irrespective of the type of navigation aid signal being used to derive position
information.
I am getting mixed interpretations from different Pilots as to whether or not I am allowed to conduct VOR approaches, DGA, or NDB approaches.
I am very confused and any help would be appreciated as to whether or not I need to fork out more money to be able to do all kinds of approaches.
Just a bit of confusion going on with my licence and privileges. I have IAP 2D and 3D on my licence however on my flight test I only have done an ILS and an RNAV.
Part 61.680 subsection (5) states that:
(5) The holder of an instrument rating is authorised to conduct an instrument approach operation in an aircraft using a procedure of a particular kind only if the holder has:
(a) completed training in the conduct of instrument approach operations using the procedure; and
(b) demonstrated, to a person mentioned in subregulation (6), his or her competence in the conduct of instrument approach operations using the procedure.
Does the "procedure" mentioned here refer to a 2D or 3D procedure, an azimuth or CDI procedure or each procedure individually, NDB, VOR, DGA etc? There is no reference in the Part 61 regulation.
Going over to the Flight Crew Licencing Procedures Manual;
Part 10.3.1
Under Part 61 there is no differentiation with respect to grade of Instrument Rating ie there
are no command or co-pilot grades issued. The Instrument Rating will only differ between
holders on the basis of the endorsements they hold on their respective ratings.
Instrument approach privileges are not derived from the navigation aid but are given on the
basis of the design of the approach, being either 2 dimensional or 3 dimensional. The 3
dimensional approach differs in that it provides final approach guidance in the vertical
dimension in addition to lateral guidance.
So a holder of 2 dimensional instrument approach endorsement (2D) can fly any 2D
approach irrespective of the type of navigation aid signal being used to derive position
information.
I am getting mixed interpretations from different Pilots as to whether or not I am allowed to conduct VOR approaches, DGA, or NDB approaches.
I am very confused and any help would be appreciated as to whether or not I need to fork out more money to be able to do all kinds of approaches.