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FerrypilotDK
28th Mar 2015, 07:32
I am having a hard time getting availability using the "official" on line parking tool from the airport authority for a Challenger to come in beginning of April. Any way to work around this on line system?

bekolblockage
28th Mar 2015, 08:34
You mean a landing Slot allocation?
Or you have a slot but are trying to get a physical parking space?
Spoken to BAC?

FerrypilotDK
28th Mar 2015, 10:32
BAC says parking is under AAHK, BAPS and that they cannot do anything. Physical parking space on the ramp.

They offered a hangar at 1950/2 hours(!)

...and say there is no space on the ramp.

bekolblockage
28th Mar 2015, 12:50
I take it you mean during the Easter period.
Very very congested I expect.
Past 2 years had some 400 GA/BA movements over the Easter period.
Don't like your chances.
I'm amazed you got a slot to be honest.

Flying Mechanic
28th Mar 2015, 17:04
If you are lucky if you get a landing slot , with a caveat you must depart within 6 hours. Unless you arrive with a technical problem....go AOG:ok:

jtr
29th Mar 2015, 22:48
Landing slots are independent to parking slots.

If you haven't got a BAPS (parking) slot which you can do a month in advance then you are SOL. BAPS dishes them out on a first come/first serve basis with no local operator preferential treatment. Just because it has been rejected doesn't mean you can't keep reapplying.

As FM mentioned, if you get a landing slot, you have 6 hours if you have no parking slot... unless you are somehow AOG....

As for hangar charges: supply and demand. You want to fly the jet into one of the largest hubs in Asia for 50 million dollar jets at one of the busiest holiday periods in the year (after Xmas/NY, CNY) in a land where the mentality that money gets you the solution always...


There are a few other angles around it but those come with bitter experience I am afraid.

Assuming you have to reposition then Macau, Shenzen, Guangzhou or Subic are all worth looking at depending on the number of days you are there and if you want a hangar or not.

Feel free to PM me if you need any info but (at the risk of sounding pessimistic) I don't fancy your chances.

JDanielz
16th Feb 2016, 21:34
Topic UP gents! One year after...and what we have? A total mess. Seems like no light at the end of the tunnel. It's getting worse and worse. No matter what time of the year, no matter what time of the day or night...there is simply no parking :( BAPS rejection rate for us is about 9 out of 10, even if booking with maximum allowed 30 days in advance. Did anybody found any solution at all how to beat this awful system? What if there is no way to reposition, i.e the pilot is also an owner of the aircraft, and came for a meeting. It really looks like there is no way to visit HKG in your own aircraft :) How ridiculous is that...

Is there any way to hide on MX Ramp at all (without declaring AOG), did anybody try that way? I am really out of any ideas...hangars are always full, no parking on the ramp. Where else in the airport can we hide for couple days, surely there must be a way to sort it, it is Asia! :ugh:

demon_duck
16th Feb 2016, 22:31
Some of the MROs have access to parking. Check your PMs.

1200firm
16th Feb 2016, 23:11
Loads of empty space for bizjet parking on the GFS ramp.

Freehills
16th Feb 2016, 23:53
Banning biz jets would be the obvious solution...

LapSap
17th Feb 2016, 00:12
HKIA bizjet parking is aviation's version of Sai Kung Marina; Lots of expensive equipment going nowhere fast.
Some baubles for the Mainlanders to show off their wealth.
Ad-hoc landing slots disappearing fast, so no way for them to go anywhere anyway.

Yonosoy Marinero
17th Feb 2016, 03:45
It really looks like there is no way to visit HKG in your own aircraft How ridiculous is that...

Hmm... This might not be a cause that will gather a lot of support among the populace.
:hmm:

Seriously though, what is the situation over in Macau?
Seems they have plenty of real estate there and not much to fill it with. Only a short ferry ride away.

Weren't they even planning to level the airport and turn it into a Casino at some stage?

EESDL
17th Feb 2016, 16:10
It's looking like the HK-Macau bridge will be finished before you get a slot!
Sorry, not helpful but I felt it had to be said .....:ugh:

JDanielz
17th Feb 2016, 18:06
1200firm
Hi, and thanks for idea, worth checking. Sent them a query. We'll see how's fishing there...

Toruk Macto
18th Feb 2016, 07:28
Welcome to Hong Kong and it's not only planes that have no where to park . Car parks over a million to buy or lease about the same as a small unit in any other country . Plenty of nice boats for sale but if you got no berth then forget it .