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HaBuraTop
6th Mar 2015, 10:46
Hey guys,

I've been questioned about ferrying a Boeing 737 from US to Europe.
Could you please advise what is needed to make this flight?

The aircraft is in US register and will be re-registered in Europe. Flight crew hold JAA/EASA licenses.
The idea is that pilots will arrive to US and need to make a test flight. Is it allowed to make such a flight in US airspace for JAA/EASA license holders as active crew.
The other option might be that test flight will be counducted by FAA pilots under supervision of Ferry crew Captain.
If everything is fine with the aircraft it is going to be taken to Europe.

What difficulties could be expected?

Thanks a lot!

sycamore
6th Mar 2015, 15:44
Could de-reg USA/re-reg EU before it flies...

rick1128
6th Mar 2015, 18:28
US to Europe is not a big deal over all. You will have issues with the pilot certification. Primarily under ICAO rules the nationality of the pilot certificates operating the aircraft must match the nationality of the Aircraft or the airspace. Since it is an "N" number aircraft you will either need FAA certificated pilots or they will need a validation. I have had FAA inspectors in the past who would issue a temporary certificate or an LOA for the flight. Check with Airman Certification Branch in Oklahoma City for your options.

If you deregister the aircraft prior to the flight, you will very likely lose all the RVSM authorizations as they are linked to the Registration.

Good luck and have a fun flight.

No Fly Zone
8th Mar 2015, 10:27
I agree with all prior comments.
That said, I have to wonder why your 'Sponsoring' airline, operator, leesor, owner etc. is not addressing these details on your behalf. That IS the usual routine...
If this is some kind of BBJ transfer, your principal owner/operator is responsible for the details, including obtaining a temporary permit for you. You do not have to pay to fly. If they want you, they will do the necessary.
In the end, if you are qualified on the aircraft, FAA will easily grant you whatever is necessary to get the airplane to its new home. Proof of type qualification (or very similar) and a little support from Boeing's Delivery Office will help. You can bet that Boeing will not cut corners, but that can be of very great help... Talk to them!

HaBuraTop
12th Mar 2015, 08:41
Thank you very much guys for your help! Will keep working on issue :)

framer
12th Mar 2015, 14:15
The other option might be that test flight will be counducted by FAA pilots under supervision of Ferry crew Captain.
That can work and has been done 1000 times before. It can be interesting from a CRM/Command point of view as the Perpignan A320 crash showed.
Google the report if you are going to go down that road and ensure that everyone involved is on the same page.