Plane hits bridge, crashes into Taipei river

[CokeZero]

Just picked this up on the news....

Plane hits bridge, crashes into Taipei river | Stuff.co.nz (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/65784506/plane-hits-bridge-crashes-into-taipei-river)

A few photos to go with it in the news article.

[jrmyl]

What is going on with TransAsia? Two crashes within months of each other.:confused: That is some pretty powerful video and pictures from the dash-cam on the bridge.

[squarecrow]

Was it also an ATR that had the Earlier incident in Trans Asia.

[Skybound79]

So many plane accidents hitting Asian carriers this year.. Signs of declining standards in maintenance/flying competencies?

[flying.monkeyz]

ATC streaming seems to suggest engine flameout.

[captjns]

Not a flame out... But a rollback or a problem with the engine prop control. Their was an emergency AD issued by the FAA I the late fall of 2913 do to faulty repairs by a vendor on the West Coast of the U.S. The system, thought the oil transfer tube would sense a rollback causing the engine to over torque as it wanted to feather the peop whilst the engine was producing power.

[FlapsSlats]

Dramatic video indeed.
I remember during the 6-monthly sim checks on the B737 and the A320 that one of the failures which was practiced again and again is Engine-Failure-on-Take-Off (EFTO), usually at V1.
Swift corrective action is required, but the aircraft should (must!) be at a take-off weight sufficiently low to allow a continued climb single-engine at this most precarious point in the flight.
It looks from the video as if the left propellor is rotating more slowly than the right. But the aircraft should still be capable of safe forward flight, albeit on one engine.
The flight recorder will show the truth but initial thoughts suggest that this appalling crash need not have happened.

[Droste]

So many plane accidents hitting Asian carriers this year.. Signs of declining standards in maintenance/flying competencies?
Skybound79,

There are both maintenance and flight training/competency issues.

Taiwan
Taiwan does not have a proper flight training school.

Till today, there have surplus of ROC Airforce pilots. ROC Airforce military license conversion copied the US style. However, they did the "short cut way" in full motion simulator and got their civilian license in one simple checkride.

ROC Airforce pilots are good in flying their own military planes. The Singapore Ministry of Defense recruited these ROC Airforce pilots to train the RSAF pilots. I can even dig out whose idea was. Nonetheless, the ROC Airforce pilots were frustrated while in Singapore.

Indonesia
Indonesia used to do it like Taiwan. Indonesia Airforce pilots did their one time checkride in a civilian full motion simulator and that's it. In fact, many single engine rated pilots directly cross-over and fly in full motion simulator (eg Airbus or Boeing). With just one simple checkride these Indon guys got multi-engine rated in huge jet! Imagine military rotary guys are able to hop-on directly in huge fixed wings. Impressive isn't it?

Malaysia
Malaysia is the same too! I am not trying to be crude or expressing racism. "They help their own skin colour". Years ago, DCA M'sia has been converting RMAF military license to civilian license as easy as flipping the pan-cake.

In Year 2009, I have seen a RMAF pilot who has not flown for >15 years, got a checkride in twin-engine and became a civilian multi-engine instructor. The DCA M'sia waived all his theory examination. I can name out the fellow who did the checkride.

There are many Asia countries (excluding Singapore) protect their own citizens. These countries rather take in their own citizens than employing qualified civilian trained pilots.

[v4city]

+1 for you Droste

[KRUSTY 34]

It all boils down to cost. Ex-pats are expensive. Local bare CPL standard pilots are much easier to exploit.

The agenda has been to replace the expensive Ex-pat babysitting Captains with local babysitting Captains. Fair enough too, but it all turns to ****e when you have the blind leading the blind! :(