View Full Version : Bike racks on a 180

28th Jan 2015, 21:27
More proof that it's a real blokes plane:
Kiwi pilot's bike idea flies worldwide - National - NZ Herald News (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11393286&ref=rss)

28th Jan 2015, 21:42
They used to carry fencing equipment on the same points years ago, on 180's, 185's and Beavers and airdrop them, IIRC.

Doubt if the designer has airdropping of bikes in mind.

Gertrude the Wombat
28th Jan 2015, 21:45
Mr Brereton, who worked as a mineral exploration pilot before buying the company, believes his plane is the only one in the world that carries bikes on the outside.
Don't you believe it. Bush pilots will lash anything to their floats - it's inconceivable that none of them has ever tried it with a bicycle.

29th Jan 2015, 01:06
I'll take your word for it Gertrude.
It does look kind of cool though...

John Hill
29th Jan 2015, 01:10
There is a picture somewhere of a 185 with Gnat hanging under one wing and a small drum on the other side to balance things!


29th Jan 2015, 02:17
We carry 185's around as spares. ;)


galaxy flyer
29th Jan 2015, 02:29
If it has a R-1340, you need a spare! Or is it a PZL conversion.


29th Jan 2015, 02:51
That's the PZL conversion with the DC-3 prop.

29th Jan 2015, 07:20
but the bikes are a really cute idea! (a pic, too tartare?)


Solid Rust Twotter
29th Jan 2015, 07:27
I think I'm in love, Mr Pigboat.:ok:

I would willingly sacrifice body parts for one of those.

Sir Niall Dementia
29th Jan 2015, 07:43
My Grandad and an RN observer regularly strapped their bikes to the wing struts of a Swordfish when they went on posting or exercise.


joy ride
29th Jan 2015, 07:56
Sir Niall Dementia: my Dad was a trainee FAA O/N and spent some time on Swordfish at Worthy Down, with a certain Laurence Olivier as his pilot.

Dad occasionally talked about going on flights to other bases, with bicycles, small motorcycles and/or friends lashed to the undercarriage! Some fascinating stories which I was able to record before his memory went, great to hear your memory of this sort of thing!

29th Jan 2015, 10:09
We had a Valiant crew chief who would stash his bicycle in the upper fuselage between the fuel tanks. Winging our way across the Indian Ocean we drivers suddenly realised that the ailerons had gone to fingertip control, any appreciable movement would induce unheard of rates of roll. Not wishing to twist the wings off we carried on to Butterworth leaving them to the autopilot and on finals disconnected the powered controls and landed it in manual.

Investigation in the fuselage where the feel cans were then revealed that the bicycle had fallen over and jammed the control spigot of the airleron Q feel therebye removing all feel from the ailerons.

29th Jan 2015, 11:04

If an EASA FOI saw that nice big float plane attempting that on a EASA registration, they would stroke out on the spot! !

29th Jan 2015, 11:34
So what's the aerodynamic drag coefficient of a couple of Malvern Stars?? Got to be worth several kts in cruise speed ability, I'll wager!

Pigboat - Shouldn't you have a 185 under each wing for proper balance? :) What's the yaw level like, with just one??

Shaggy Sheep Driver
29th Jan 2015, 12:05
Indeed, bicycles are very draggy. They should be in a pod, ideally.

29th Jan 2015, 12:33
If an EASA FOI saw that nice big float plane attempting that on a EASA registration, they would stroke out on the spot! !
The Canadian authorities would probably do the same. One must present them with a fait accompli.

Rusty that is supposed to be the best engine/propeller combination for the PZL conversion. I have never flown one. Apparently the yaw wasn't at all bad with that load and the airplane chugged along a 90 knots. It was discussed briefly on another board.

Then there are those who forget the keys to the shop.

Solid Rust Twotter
29th Jan 2015, 13:17
Same engine as the AN2? If so it's a thirsty beast, consuming around 200 litres per hour.

Pretty aeroplane though.

29th Jan 2015, 16:32
The AN 2s I'm aware of didn't need warming up. The engine tolerances were too wide.

Solid Rust Twotter
29th Jan 2015, 17:22
There's a limit on the oil temp for taking a big handful of power, but nothing we need to worry about in most of Africa.

John Hill
29th Jan 2015, 17:59
Now dont you young lads go thinking you can hang stuff on the outside of your 185 (or whatever) and not get any surprises. I saw a pilot load a sink bench into a 185 which was a bit too long so he took the door off and had a bit sticking out in the breeze, not much at all really, he barely got off the end of the strip and flew away barely above tree top level.