Malgus, bloody Malgus - yet again (Mergedx9) Wish people would look before they post

[egg]

Hello,
I signed up for the Malgus thing - it's the first time I have done this kind of thing and I have found myself being called for interview some time in the next 2 weeks. My problem is I have only had my first 2 hours of lessons and don't know anything about what to expect from PARC/Malgus technical and personality interview.....can anyone offer advice on what I shuld be reading up on etc?
Any clues gratefully received

[BHX]

why not take a look at the balpa log, they have some interesting suggestions on interview technique courses. You could probably get a one-to-one if time is tight.:)

[The Boy Lard]

Egg,

If you do a search using the word Malgus you will find 29 items including yours regarding Malgus (Or at least with the word Malgus in it).

I personally dont know anything about it but if you cant get your answers from 29 threads I'd be surprised.

If you dont know how to use the search function scroll to the bottom of the page, bottom right there is a field to populate, type Malgus and then click advanced search, that should bring what you are looking for.

Good luck

TBL:cool:

[monkeyboy]

egg, from what I know of previous sponsorship interviews (never made it that far but it didn't stop me preparing!) it'll do you some good to inwardly digest a copy of the Trevor Thom Aircraft Technical book (Number 4 - the yellow one). Obviously, if you've only got 2 hours they're not going to expect you to know too much but at least show some knowledge of the basics: principles of flight, how the engine works etc...

That should do you proud.

Well done for getting this far. There are a lot of sceptics out there with regards to Malgus (myself included) so let us know how you get on & prove us wrong.

MB:)

[BUDGIE]

If PARC are doing the initial interview then I'd expect it to be conducted as done for the Aer Lingus TEP.
Expect it to be nice in the beginning and kinda about you developing into something more technical. They will tailor the interview initially to your experience and then as they get an idea of your technical knowledge toward aviation (and everyday things) they will progress. So if you've been obsessed with all things aviation since you were five I as an interviewer would of expected you to read books on aviation, if I think you might know how the jet engine works I'll ask - suck, squeeze, bang, blow - and then I might take that further to pressurisation then when you can answer stuff about that I'd push you till you admitted you don't know i.e. if you don't know something don't bullsh!t just say I don't know but I could hazard a guess that....-only guess if it's intelligent! -
I went thru the entire EI scheme system so would say smile lots, laugh - don't joke - and if the interviewer says something you know not to be true then tell em' they're mistaken politely and explain your reasoning - I did, he admitted defeat and laughed....got fast tracked so it done me no harm! - also possibly expect stuff about the weather-why it rains, where do clouds form?. Basically everyday household appliances, car engines etc... 4 stroke versus 2 stroke how's that work?
Go in, be confident, nice, smile, promote yourself and sell yourself and thank em' for their time and tell em' you've had great fun ;)
And if Malgus turns out to be a farce as some people think it might I'd say £140 ain't that bad for the experience of aptitudes and interviews you can expect to come face to face with in the future.

Good Luck and don't freak out over it!!

BUDGIE

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

Hurmphh..

WWW

[BUDGIE]

Given that WWW doesn't know me or my profession I'd guess it's the thought of Malgus. Unless of course he feels there is something inherently wrong with my view of the PARC selection procedures and how to go about the selection process?

BUDGIE

[buttline]

I just went through their whole website and the deal seems too good to be true.

You only have to pay back half the costs and then only once you start work.

I'm guessing they've cut a good bulk deal with Jerez off the RRP of the course. I didn't see anything mentioning interest rates.

As an ex-CEO it doesn't add up to me. The Present Value of 25k is greater than the (future) value of 25k in five years unless there's an interest payment..

I'm guessing that their recruitment arm takes a kickback from the airline when you get hired and there may be a clause that says you have to take whatever position they can get you into...?

Anyone got the scoop on this?


>>> Just found this paragraph on their site - "There will be a variety of payment options available that will be discussed with you if you succeed to the final stage."

Reminds me a lot of timeshare style sales. Get them geared up, then hit them with the numbers at the end when they're 'emotionally invested'. 25k over 5 years is a lot out of a Jnr Pilots salary. My guess is that you can convert the loan to a longer term payback with unfavourable interest rates.

They look like a finance company to me with all the other things they are into.

I'm not cynical, I just don't get the feeling they are being up front about all the terms. Hope I'm wrong.

Do the maths thoroughly and get a lawyer to go through the contract - you may be better off with a normal bank loan.


Baz

[Cookiemonster5]

Hiya, i'm hopefully going for the Malgus 1st stage interview in june, I've looked at the Malgus website and at the PARC thing on here, was wondering if someone who's done the Malgus first stage interview could tell me the format of the day..... is there a verbal interview or is it all tests? Cheers.

[FE Hoppy]

Zerouali,
have you got a date yet for stage 3? It's getting a bit difficult for me to keep every weekend free!

[Boeing Freak]

Someone has asked me about this company. Anyone know anything about them?

Cheers BF

[distaff_beancounter]

If you mean: MALGUS (rather than mUlgus) then this has been discussed to death, on several occassions on this forum.

Try the search option, for very FULL details

I hope that helps :)

[bitt]

Hi everybody,
This is my first post on this forum and I found this forum
very attractive and exciting.
My question is about Malgus Ltd. I'm 19 years old and wish to
become a pilot ( how meny times did you hear this ). I have very-very good knowledge of math and phys. but my mother language is not English ( I'didnt say that I speak English bad ) and I'm affraid of Verbal reasoning test. Can anyone tell me what is included in this test, and how can I prepare for it if I must.
Is there any suggestion what should I read (prepare myself) before tests.

Thanx a lot,

Best wishes Tancic Bogdan

[buttline]

Do a search on Malgus, there have been plenty of posts in the past.

Barry

[notice]

'Who knows the catch with Malgus?
I just went through their whole website and the deal seems too good to be true.......'

Dear bcleague & others,

Most things which seem 'too good to be true' are usually neither.

Is Malgus a charity or a moneylender or a lottery operator?
If not, what?

Also Malgus seems to rattle your cage, WWW, so what's the prob?

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

I cannot express my views on this topic further here.

WWW

[bitt]

I had ( few topics up ) questions about Malgus, and after posting
a topic a had a search on Malgus but I found nothing suitable for me and my questions. So , can somebeody plase tell me something more about my posted questions.

Thanx a lot,

Tancic Bogdan

[InFinRetirement]

Notice

Wannabes forum has been in through and out the other side on the question of Malgus.

WWW, if the truth was known, is probably fed up to his high teeth with it, and so am I.

Let me give you some figures, if you can't be bothered to read what has been said a million times about Malgus and their fantastic scam/scheme.

They offer ONE person ONE course at BAE in Madrid. All paid for.

ONE course now costs about £60,000. Put that in a calculator.

Divide that by £100 and you have 600. So, therefore, 600 of you put £147 into the pot. Malgus take £47 as their expenses and the other £100 x 600 equals the cost of ONE course. The expenses in Malgus' pocket amounts to £28,200.

The answer? Well work it out for yourself. This is the last time I am doing it. And while you are at it, try to figure out ALL the implications of what this 'offer' means.

It's your money but it would be better spent elsewhere is what we say.

[Captain Airclues]

Does anybody know if the people running the scheme are eligable for selection? While they would obviously ensure that the selection procedure was fair and impartial, it would be a novel way of financing the course if they were to be successful.

Airclues

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

Captain Airclues - I undertook some time ago that if and when Malgus send someone to BAE (JEREZ - IFR) I would check out the biographical history of the lucky chap/chapess.

I have enough ex-colleagues there to ensure I get the full story.

That way I will be able to scotch any cynical speculation about the scheme being designed to pay for the Nephew of a friend of a friend etc.

I hate cynics you see.

WWW

[InFinRetirement]

That point aside, and that would be bad enough if it were real, is that only ONE person out of 600 applicants can go through.

The other implications I refer to are on there website, and I don't like the odds being stacked against our wannabes the way they are.

It is, of course, still their decision to participate or not but it is our duty to point out the pitfalls of this 'scheme'. Which we have being doing for over a year now!

Jerez of course WWW.

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

zeroanli - good luck.

[InFinRetirement]

zeroanli, you should look at their website www.malgus.com before you do anything.

They say a course is currently costing £50,000 but we know that it is more like £60,000.

However, you will also note that after they give you 100% sponsorship, they want 50% of that 100% sponsorship back.

So if you get selected in the first place - about a 600/1 chance - and you complete the course. When you are employed you pay them back at the rate of £400-£500 per month out of your salary for FIVE years.

The choice as always is yours.

That is absolutely my final word on this subject. Except this. I would no more give to our wannabes "foundless statements" than I would to pay out of the PPRuNe Fund which I have run for the past two-half years - for wannabes - JUST ONE £147 'entrance fee' to this scheme.

[C Montgomery Burns]

If you go to their website via the link IFR kindly provided, you'll see that they seem to have three operations: aviation, cosmetic surgery and website design (site currently under construction!).

Go into aviation and click on 'About Us' and if you try to click on their 'Associate Director' and 'Associate Technical Director' (both of which are legally meaningless terms, btw) and you'll get an error 404 code. In other words, the company consists of a guy flying as an FO for Aer Lingus and his dad. Angus Campbell, one of the founders and the 'Operations Director' according to their 'News' page, has distanced himself from the company and I believe he has resigned ... could he know something the rest of us don't? ;)

Whilst the cost of the course in Jerez is £60,000, on top of that you have to add the cost of accommodation, travel, €50 per week pocket money, training bond etc. That of course increases the odds of success, as it increases the number of mugs, er wide-eyed and bushy-tailed naive wannabes that have to sign up.

Next, click on 'Full Details'. The first thing that's apparent is that you are getting far from the 'full details' promised as they tell you that one of the most important aspects of the whole deal - repaying the money - will only be discussed with you if you get to the final stage! Question 21 of the FAQs states: 21>> Will Malgus Ltd help me find a job?
A. It is in our best interest to find you a job. We will do our best to keep you informed of possible openings. We will not guarantee any positions, however, if we do find you employment you must accept this position. So, if they find you a job paying £1,000 per month - you have to take it ... and pay back £25,000 out of your earnings!

Last year, these guys claimed that they were being supported by Scottish Enterprise - and that was subsequently proven to have been a gross misstatement of the facts. In reality, they are just using a Scottish Enterprise 'hive' (Burnside House in Howood near Glasgow) and there is no 'support' beyond that provided by SE. Certainly, SE is not backing or underwriting them.

There's an old saying: if it sounds too good to be true, that's because it is. Caveat emptor is an even older one! :D

[TomPierce]

I should think everyone is getting very bored with Malgus by now. The old saying of "there are none so blind as they who cannot see" is so true.

The main problem is that some poor soul with a career in mind, comes along with £147, sees an "opportunity", and then closes in at the exclusion of all else. Then, having then got the "taste" of the scheme won't let go, and God help those who tell it how it is.

Very sad really.

[distaff_beancounter]

I see from the Malgus website, that the "100% sponsored" students, now apparently have to make the first £5,000 training repayment, BEFORE they go to the FTO.

Also, according to Companies House, the first company was:-

Malgus Ltd No. SC220272 incorporated 15/05/2001

And, now there is another company:-

Malgus Aviation Ltd No. SC230600 incorporated 22/04/2002

Both companies have the same Registered Office, Directors & Shareholders.

So is the Malgus operation expanding?

[TomPierce]

What mis-information would that be then?

It is clear that Malgus exist. No-one denies that. But it is clear that you are determined throw to away £147 and then hock yourself up to the eyebrows paying back what they want. 50% of your salary for FIVE years. The good news is that you have to take your chances with the other 599 - if they ever get them. They can't pay BAe if they don't collect the money can they.

Still, if you can't see the stile you WILL fall over it.

Oh yes! They are also now offering cosmetic surgery. Wonder what that is for?

Sorry! My cynicism is born out of frustration with people who will not see.

[PPRuNe Radar]

zerouali

Your choice mate ..... but heed the warnings...........

Good luck whatever happens.

[Sagey]

I have to say I love Malgus Design. They promise a low cost top class website design.

I clicked on their link and it said Site currently under construction, please fill in form for a consultation.

Surely the first site a design company would work on is making their own the dogs ;)

I know it has nowt to do with aviation but all has been said about their pilot scheme.

Jealous of the lucky one or two who will get it, feel sorry for the hundreds that have lost their money is my view tbh.

Sagey

[NukeFlyer]

Hi everyone,

Would anybody have any gen on Malgus Aviation. They provide sponsorship for commercial pilot training in Spain.

look forward to any replies

N

[The Greaser]

Go to page 2 of Wannabees.

[egg]

Just want to say thanks to everyone for their advice on this - especially monkeyboy and BUDGIE!
I was late for the interview in Birmingham as trains from London Euston were cancelled that morning (they only announced this as I sat on the damn thing waiting for it to leave) but got there in the end and they seemed quite pleased that I managed to get there at all.
Anyway, after a Belbin psychometric test it was about flying basics, logic and common sense. I think I did all right but who knows.
Good luck to all.