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17th Jan 2015, 20:32
According to this study (http://www.bbc.com/news/health-30796304) reported by the BBC, the majority of secondary school-goers don't bother showering after physical education classes.

I believe the matter requires closer examination on various (Y-)fronts.

17th Jan 2015, 21:31
The majority of games staff do not allow sufficient time for showering. It does physically take longer for girls in particular to dry long hair. This is compounded by games sessions being far too short to allow proper changing, transit and showering time, especially in state schools. The facilities for showering with some degree of privacy are a lot better than even 15 years ago, however staff supervision to ensure hygiene is (given false accusation rates) a nightmare, and almost all staff in practice don't do it.
Many state school staff I knew reported it was in practice impossible to get many students to work up a sweat anyway, as either that or showering would require reapplying make-up which wasn't allowed in the first place (boys as well as girls in some cases).

If you insist to schedulers on decent length games sessions (1:20+), have genuinely competitive sport with a high standard of coaching, allow time for showering and express one's distaste for non-showering, in private schools, there is no problem. But that's only about 5% of schools.

11 years coaching girls sport (hockey, soccer, water polo), 5 years coaching boys.

17th Jan 2015, 21:47
PE in primary schools was not exertive enough (from memory) to raise a sweat.

Secondary school 'games' was done for a whole afternoon (rugby or athletics) with communal bathing facilities rather than showers - aimed at removing the mud rather than improving personal freshness.

17th Jan 2015, 21:48
Why not make it a fun thing and let all genders shower together, then see if they work up a sweat.

17th Jan 2015, 22:08
Way back in the wild and woolly days of when I were a lad..... I "enjoyed" the "benefits" of an experimental three tier education system.
Primary School from age 5 to 10 (Primary 1 to 5), Middle School from 11 to 14 (Primary 6&7 and S1 & S2) and High School for 15 to 16 (S3 & S4) with the option to 17 (S5) or 18 (S6) if you stayed on.

At Primary School, we had an open communal changing room for the whole class (boys & girls) :eek:, adjacent to the sports / assembly hall. No showers.

At Middle School, we had a PE Department with separate Boys & Girls changing rooms and showers. Each changing room had communal showers with around twenty shower heads and changing facilities for around fifty. In the four years I was there, I think the water supply to the showers was working for about six months one winter and it was never warm, let alone hot.:(

When they built the new High School for the three tier experiment, they recognised an issue with the sports facilities. :ok:

We had a separate PE Department, two sets of changing rooms each for male & female pupils and a separate pair for the staff. The changing rooms shared a common set of showers. Stalls this time. Each pupil changing room had space for twenty pupils to change and shared a dozen shower stalls with the other changing room. The one drawback was that the department, like the science block was physically isolated from the main building, the boiler supplying hot water was at the far end of the main building and all the services (power, water, fire alarm, phone etc.) between the buildings were housed in the roof space of the four foot wide covered walkway between the buildings, so there was not a lot of room for big pipes, but they did put in a local header tank with a low power boost heater as a buffer.

Net result: the first three of four (in total) into the showers got hot water, the next three or four got rapidly reducing temperatures until it was at ambient temperature by the time they finished. :eek:
So, in my four years at the school, and despite a regular slot playing in the first XV [every position in scrum except hooker - was more of a hacker than a hooker], I only ever had three showers in total.:ugh:

At least when you got home, you could be sure that the bath water would be warm, as well as loaded with appropriate levels of antiseptic and soothing bath salts......:)

...... And no-one would be hassling you to hurry up coz the bus was leaving in five minutes.......

17th Jan 2015, 22:24
I hated school and the part I hated most was sport and PE. I hated the sadistic mocking cruelty of the sports and PE 'masters' as they were called.

I can still remember the sweaty musty smell of the changing rooms and how I hated putting my clean clothes on after they'd been in the filthy lockers. I hated showering with others, I think that's a teenage thing as it never bothered me when I was older. We had horrible wooden slatted things we had to stand on called 'duck boards' and I am sure they were riddled with every type of fungal disease known. Most of the kids suffered from athlete's foot and veruccas (sp?).

Not showering was not an option, but I used every possible excuse to escape sports.

17th Jan 2015, 22:38
In both my own schooling and 11 years as a teacher, I have only known one fat child, and he was a day boy whose dad ran a doughnut shop.

18th Jan 2015, 00:06
Maybe he wasn't fat either, just slouching? It's difficult to tell when someone's fully-clothed. Didn't someone once get into trouble for congratulating a woman on her pregnancy (only she wasn't expecting)...?!

Clare Prop
18th Jan 2015, 00:54

When I was at boarding school in the UK we were allowed two very cold and shallow baths a week on a rota and only allowed to wash our hair on Saturday afternoons. Not nice for teenage girls.

If we had "games" it made no difference, if it wasn't your bath night tough, so we just had to change back into the normal uniform (two shirts to last us a week) from our games uniform.

It was always so cold that chilblains were more likely than working up a sweat.

Always felt smelly and dirty, the whole school stank of BO and we used to long for summer when we could swim a couple of times a week and feel clean.

I understand now that the nuns have been got rid of that each girl has thier own en-suite!!!!!

18th Jan 2015, 01:01
Not nice for teenage girls.

Not nice for your staff either!

As a schoolboy, my school's plumbing allowed for 1 warm and two lukewarm showers, and 97 of ever increasing numbness...I was motivated to win every single cross-country. This had the double benefit of no one else ever knowing the first one was warm ;)

18th Jan 2015, 01:03
What's new, we didn't in the sixties either, it was freezing in there. ( but I never thought of bugs in the duck boards).

Metro man
18th Jan 2015, 01:34
After games, we had to go through the shower run with sprays of water from either side. No soap, and if you dodged correctly and moved fast enough, you would hardly get wet at all.

Mind you we still had a bath every week, whether we needed it or not.:E

John Hill
18th Jan 2015, 02:21
Showers after PT were always very popular, maybe because of that nail hole through the wall to the girls' showers?

Loose rivets
18th Jan 2015, 02:55
Showers? I never saw one until I was a teenager and rigged one up at home. Communal bathing? Uuuuug.

Smelly? Difficult to tell when no one bathes. Rows of old Wellies didn't help the school's bouquet. I was forced to wash when a strict great-aunt tugged my ear forward and said, 'You could grow potatoes in that dirt.'

Showering at school. Never heard the like.:*

Now, our yacht club has a magnificent showers and changing room, but one day I went in there and there was a naked boy in there. Well, more a 6' plus young man. He was just chatting. It occurs to me that in my whole life I've never seen a naked man apart from a glimpse at judo. Then, I'd make the excuse that I'd prefer to shower when I'd stopped sweating and retreat to my car.

Funny, I was just recounting to one of our members, turning up at a swimming pool at a house hired by our airline. Slowly the girls got out of the pool and put their tops on. I hadn't even noticed. Zero modesty in the Rivets household and it just looked so natural.

18th Jan 2015, 07:48
.I was motivated to win every single cross-country.That's funny because the only 'sports' I was any good at were sailing and cross country running, I think the motivation for the latter was that I could get to the showers and stinking changing room first and then home.

I was once banned from sports for the remainder of the term by my halfwitted house master for some misdemeanour. I could barely keep the smirk off my face as I left his study. Unfortunately the punishment was rescinded after only two short but happy weeks.

I remember one particularly filthy smelly boy at my school who said he never showered or bathed as 'you stop smelling' after about a week. I told him that you might stop smelling yourself, but others don't. That's the thing about BO - you don't suffer from it, those around you do.

Clare Prop
18th Jan 2015, 08:58
Fox3, I doubt the staff noticed. The personal hygiene of those nuns was non existant. Things like baths and deodorant were, presumably, something to do with the sin of vanity.

Worst smell of all though were some of the French girls who came on "exchange" while one of ours was subjected to a term in a French school. Honestly, they could clear the whole assembly hall in seconds :uhoh::eek::zzz:

18th Jan 2015, 09:05
Here's an idea. Why not make sport/PE an optional extra in schools? Those who didn't want to participate could have extra art, music etc instead. I've never been convinced by the argument that school sport contributes to the physical well-being of the nation. Look at France where sport has traditionally had no place in the curriculum, and if you want to play sport you join an after school club. Hardly a nation of fatties and sports duffers!

sprintman there you go again, trotting out the same tired old "jokes". Just what is it with you? As I recall you are a Brit who emigrated to Oz at some stage. So what happened to make you so bitter about your native country? Does having to live in Canberra have anything to do with it?

18th Jan 2015, 09:09
My sister had a French exchange student when I was about 19. At that age and before I knew what I know now about many of the less appetising aspects of the French, particularly women, the idea of fetching a 16 year old French girl from the airport seemed quite appealing. Appalling would have been a better word.

Walking out through arrivals I was catching a bit of a whiff, surreptitiously sniffed at my armpits, no it wasn't me. Got into the car, whiff becomes a sour stench of ... everything ........not just the sweat of a nervous flyer, windows open, cold morning ...... she asks me to close ze window 'parce que j'ai froid'.
'Tant pis, cherie'. Foot down to get the journey over as soon as possible. That might have made her sweat ...... I had an Escort RS2000.

Mum greets us at the door, nose wrinkles, says :
"Lovely to see you, you must have had a long journey, would you like to perhaps go upstairs and freshen up before we have lunch?"
My mum was as much of a Francophile as I am a Francophobe. Her diplomatic skills never failed her, I'd have have said 'you stink, here's some soap and a towel, get your kit off and into the tub.'

During the 6 weeks she stayed with us it got worse. Never changed her clothes, never gave my mum any washing to do. Her room stank worse than the lions' house at the zoo. When she left, I burnt the bedding and mattress.

And she was ugly too!

18th Jan 2015, 09:42
I hated school and the part I hated most was sport and PE. I hated the sadistic mocking cruelty of the sports and PE 'masters' as they were called.

We must have gone to the same school. Our PE instructor (who played for a well-known and successful rugby team) put me off sports for life. In don't even remember there being any showers available, but then my school buildings dated from the 1380's when showering wasn't given any especial priority.

18th Jan 2015, 10:08
Never a sportsman apart from sailing, I enjoyed cricket. Standing outfield on a summers day in the acres of the school playing fields which overlooked the Solent and watching 6th form girls playing hockey was a lovely way to spend an afternoon.

Those green acres are now a housing estate.

18th Jan 2015, 10:16
I have always done cross country running but at school it was rugby in the winter and cricket in the summer. I found out very early on to run in the opposite direction to the rugby ball because if you got anywhere near it you got hurt. When batting in cricket I always ducked when the ball came in my direction for the same reason.

Yes Cape, our showers were pretty disgusting too. I vividly remember the soap. Goodness knows what it was but it stank.

Thread drift but then there was the shiny loo paper. Do I remember this in the Air Force as well?

18th Jan 2015, 10:27
Had they sold the sports ground when you were there Ex ? did they make you run there and back ?
I see that the sports ground is now houses.

18th Jan 2015, 10:35
Primary school:
Showers were for after swimming lessons - and well enjoyed.

Secondary school:
Showers? What showers?

Dan Gerous
18th Jan 2015, 10:40
"Thread drift but then there was the shiny loo paper. Do I remember this in the Air Force as well?"

There was shiny loo paper well into the 80's in the RAF. I did two holidays, sorry, tours in Belize, and I'm pretty sure we all bought our own bog rollout there. I remember coming back from the second, to Lossiemouth, and having to spend the first few days in transit in South block. This was also the block that accommodated the RAF Regiment. The bogs there had soft pink toilet roll, and I thought what a bunch of Nancys. Turned out this was now the norm in the RAF. Of course you could usually never find a roll in any of the blocks toilets, as they kept getting nicked, so you ended up buying your own anyway.

Loose rivets
18th Jan 2015, 10:47
Never had to buy any, we had a constant supply of beautiful tissue paper that hats were delivered in. Tonnes of it. Boxes and boxes. Still using it years after the old lady died.

18th Jan 2015, 11:01
1950's prep school. File in from the rugby pitch, cold and frequently bleeding.
Queue up naked for the ritual of a cold shower, I mean cooooold. Teacher present to ensure we stayed under for the requisite time. Later I realised that this was a much sought after duty for some teachers.
Thence to a lukewarm, filthy communal bath.
Result: an abiding hatred of rugby and cold water.

Clare Prop
18th Jan 2015, 11:19
Shiny loo paper...is that the stuff that had "Now wash your hands please" written on every sheet?

Capetonian, I can sympathise...we also had a "french girl" for one summer. We tried so hard to get her to join us in the swimming pool, but "non" (which I think was the only word she ever said). Meanwhile our sister was crying on the phone every night about the awful stench in the French family's house :{

Years later I was travelling on the metro when someone let some tear gas off. It was quite a relief.

Then I found myself running a supermarket in Jersey and we had a French checkout girl who would empty the shop every time she came in. It was of course delegated to me to tell her that she stank. She washed her hair the next day but the stench, which was reminiscent of several thousand rotting dirty nappies, continued.


18th Jan 2015, 11:41
School had footie or running. I enjoyed both especially when it was inter class footie, we never had the best players judging by those picked for the school team BUT we always won the annual round robin. Good lessons on being part of a team where we played as such.

Loved cross country running and would go out at lunchtime and run for 40 minutes before getting changed back without showers for afternoon class.

School has tiny changing rooms and no showers.

What has been published doesn't surprise as Teenagers scared that their bodies will be mocked in their worst years.

No shock that school sports grounds get sold off as the NO COMPETITIVE sports morons have aided this.

People wonder why UK kids are lardassses............. kind of easy, sell off the sports grounds, ban competitive sports and wait.

I believe sports should be compulsory at school, 1/2 day a week of whatever sport............. if only to teach kids about fitness.

18th Jan 2015, 11:56
Grew up in Australia, went to three primary and one secondary school - sport played in all of them, all of them modern buildings (at the time - 1970's build) and none of them had showers.

18th Jan 2015, 12:00
I went to primary school in Australia too.
No showers, but three pools including an olympic sized one just over the road (in a town of, then, 20,000). We used those.

18th Jan 2015, 12:11
From my daughter (born 1975):-
I used to try and get out of showering at school for various reasons, predominantly because I was slow in getting changed anyway and shouted at because of this.
Showering would make you so much later, I didn't feel it was worth the hassle:
I remember stripping to go in then saying I'd been in without getting wet - less time getting wet, less time drying - win, win!
Also at that age, youngsters are incredibly sensitive about their body image, and often very un-confident to let anyone see - they are changing in ways THEY do not understand fully, so why you would want ANYONE else judging the way you looked right now, is anyone's guess!
Much easier if you didn't shower, as your peers wouldn't see you, to comment, and the teachers that patrolled the changing rooms wouldn't see either.
Whether it was true or not, there were ALWAYS stories about staff that would loiter in the shower area just to get a good look - something most people wished to avoid!

They will have to challenge all these aspects (in my opinion) before showering after PE becomes accceptable!!

Bet these figures are not the same after swimming....you are wet anyway - you shower with bathing stuff on....etc etc!!
PS:- my daughter would spend so long in the shower at home that the supply of hot water from the storage tank would run out.

18th Jan 2015, 12:12
Wodders No, and no, we went in the decrepit old school bus. However, once we became a music school you could opt for music practice instead of sports on a Wednesday afternoon. Mind you once we took in girlies the new practice rooms were pretty active sports areas. A whole new meaning to a duet :ok:

joy ride
18th Jan 2015, 12:15
Like Capetonian I hated sport at school, partly because of the cold showers, partly because of communal baths and hugely because boarders like me had to do extra sport after day boys had gone home to conduct science homework experiments with girls.

After 3 terms of standing around sullenly refusing to "play ball" in football, rugby, cricket and hockey I was finally pushed into cross country, which was not too bad.

I liked long distance running, and Knowle Park was a great place to run, and look at trees and deer. Some of the golfers were a***holes, one got furious with me because while running along the public footpath my head had stopped his perfect drive, a powerful drive he had aimed at me, thus giving me a low opinion of golf too.

A small group of us runners would run away, get round the corner and out of sight, dart into a clump of trees and have a chat and a highly illicit cigarette or two. We would then take a short cut and re-enter the crowd just before the final straight, carefully out of sight of the teacher.

I always aimed to come in about 12th to 20th; the first 8-10 would get chosen to run for the school against other schools, and thus have to give up even more free time. 20-40th place would often have to do extra running for not trying. Many times the teacher exhorted me to try "just a little harder so that you can get on the team". I always pretended to be keen to do better so that he never knew that I could actually out-run them all!

Great thread, reminded me it's only a few months till my annual shower...!

18th Jan 2015, 12:26
Contrary to popular belief, the French are not the lowest spenders per capita in Europe on hygiene products...

That's the Belgians.
(The French are next)

18th Jan 2015, 13:39
Ah yes, cross country running, the short cuts, the naughty ciggie. We'd run down the hill to the sea front and push/throw each other into the sea. This was in the winter but by the time we had run back up the hill we were warm and dry. Character building stuff.

18th Jan 2015, 16:07
This is not new, a UK university installed (1991) web cams (female students consent) to establish the time of a average shower. The video.........


19th Jan 2015, 00:37
Cross country, that was possibly the least awfull PE we had to do, into Green Drive, let the runners and staff clear off, then half an hour of tree climbing and swiping the golf balls from the adjacent greens and watching the golfers look for them. ( I believe nowadays they can't leave school grounds, just run round the perimeter, sad world!)

19th Jan 2015, 10:59
Hated school, last few years spent in nightclubs and [email protected] on the beach...that part was fun, 2 showers day here, preceded by two back yard pool submersions, year round! It 'washes the day away' :ok:, or awakens you in hte morning :ok:

19th Jan 2015, 14:37
"Now wash your hands please" written on every sheet?

I seen to recall the toilet roll available in the RAF (back in the day) had 'Government Property' printed on each sheet! Presumably to discourage people from pinching it but given that it tended to smear stuff around as opposed to assist in any cleaning, the likelihood of anyone pinching it was extremely remote.

19th Jan 2015, 15:06
Gummint bog roll (or Izal in the civvy world) was good for making a makeshift kazoo with your comb.

I keep checking this thread in the hope of seeing piccies of young perspiring nubiles in lacrosse kit, but you buggas are letting me down . . . :E

19th Jan 2015, 15:19
I remember Izal from my grandparents' house and at school we had something even worse.

Indian bloke walks into a supermarket and asks the attendant for toilet paper. The attendant shows him three brands. The first brand is called Kleenex and costs two pounds for two rolls, the second brand is Sorbent and costs one pound for two rolls and the third brand is Izal and costs fifty pence for five rolls.

The Indian says, "Five rolls for fifty pence, that is cheap - think of the Vindaloos I can have."

So the Indian buys the Izal and leaves. The next day he returns to the store and finds the attendant and says to him, "I still have got four toilet rolls left, but I have found a name for your toilet roll."

The attendant looked confused when he said that and asked him to explain.

The Indian says, "You should call it John Wayne toilet paper!"

The attendant said, "Why John Wayne?"

And the Indian replies, "Because it's rough, tough and takes no shit from an Indian!

19th Jan 2015, 15:55
I purchased on the net (I kid you not) a toilet roll chiller appliance. It is to die for, recalling the song 'ring of fire' bliss bliss bliss:)

19th Jan 2015, 16:24

A toilet roll chiller apparatus? The mind boggles. What, pray tell, is the function of this apparatus?

19th Jan 2015, 17:19
n the RAF (back in the day) had 'Government Property' printed on each sheet!
and don't forget the little green squares as well.

"Tick when used " :)

19th Jan 2015, 17:54
As someone who (due to my age) grew up with Izal being the only option (apart from newsprint) I never discovered whether the shiny side or the dull side was intended to be towards the user - neither seemed to be effective (apart from use with a comb to provide a 'kazoo' - was this related to khazi?).

In addition to rolls, Izal was also available as interleaved flat sheets packed in flat cardboard boxes with a 'letterbox' slot in the middle:-

Whoever proposed Izal for its supposed purpose was having a larf (or a giraffe).

ISTR that continental Europe in the 1950s was using a rougher 'crepe' paper (crap?) - that was more effective than Izal.

The first documented use of toilet paper in human history dates back to the 6th century AD, in early medieval China.
During the early 14th century, it was recorded that in modern-day Zhejiang province alone there was an annual manufacturing of toilet paper amounting in ten million packages of 1,000 to 10,000 sheets of toilet paper each, and it was also recorded that for Emperor Hongwu's imperial family alone, there were 15,000 sheets of special soft-fabric toilet paper made, and each sheet of toilet paper was even perfumed.
So, how come it took to the late 20th Century before Britain 'invented' soft tissue?

19th Jan 2015, 19:11
So, how come it took to the late 20th Century before Britain 'invented' soft tissue?

I remember my first day in England very vividly, we landed and after we finally cleared passed customs, I need to take poo very badly. Actually had been needing to for quite some time, however, being of the age of living in constant embarrassment when came to bodily functions, age nine, I did not want to have a bowl movement in the toilet on the aircraft, a C-118.

So I ran to the closest loo. After finishing I looked for a roll of toilet paper, no luck. But there was this little metal box with what looked single sheets of toilet paper coming out of the bottom of the box. So I grabbed a sheet.

'What the hell was this stuff?' I thought, I was too young to think WTF. I thought this is not going to work and after nearly using all the paper in the little box, sure enough it didn't. I knew I was going to catch hell from mother, but was saved because she had to use the same stuff, with the same results.

I decided that whatever this stuff was, it was a perfect mix of wax paper and toilet paper and completely worthless for what it was intended for.

My mother later used to buy large quantities of American toilet paper rolls on base and give it our English neighbors. They loved it.

Oh, while we lived in England mother never left the house without a roll of American toilet paper in her purse.

19th Jan 2015, 21:34
Mmmm, I enjoyed my schooldays. I enjoyed PE, and the Wednesday afternoon sports. The school playing fields were a mile from the main school, with wooden changing rooms and adequate showers. Everyone used them, as I recall. Saturdays in winter I played rugby for the school in the morning, and for the local club in the afternoon - if I wasn't too muddy, I skipped the shower after the first game ...;)

joy ride
20th Jan 2015, 08:14
My grandparents had a choice of crispy or efficacious paper in their loos. About age 8 and just starting as a boarder I had no option but to use the hard stuff, but I fairly soon discovered that scrumpling and de-scrumpling it several times broke up the hard shininess and made it a bit less uncomfortable and a bit less non-efficacious.

A sheet of unscrumpled crispy paper could be rolled up, lit, and just about pass as a cigarette when tea leaves could not be stolen.

20th Jan 2015, 13:33
I keep checking this thread in the hope of seeing piccies of young perspiring nubiles in lacrosse kit, but you buggas are letting me down . .

Fixed it for ya :}


20th Jan 2015, 14:08
rgbrock1....... "A toilet roll chiller apparatus? The mind boggles. What, pray tell, is the function of this apparatus?"

The chilled paper allows the anus to contract faster to its natural size. I believe it's very popular with the gay community. May I add, used by myself for a No2 only:cool:

20th Jan 2015, 14:23

whatever this stuff was, it was a perfect mix of wax paper and toilet paper

It also contained up to 50% post-consumer recycled Brussels sprouts.

BTW - Although Izal partly redeemed itself by having one non-shiny side, Bronco had no redeeming features - other than being better than Izal for comb-kazoos. It never got soggy.

20th Jan 2015, 18:04
My grandads outside bog not only had a wooden seat with a crack that would nip you, the paper was neatly ripped up newspaper threaded on a string!!

Tigger Too, why is he holding his jock strap on a stick?

joy ride
20th Jan 2015, 18:32
Anyone read "The Specialist" by Lem Putts? The life's work and thoughts of a privy builder, lovely little book.

20th Jan 2015, 18:37
Do you have vital archaeology from times gone by imprinted between your cheeks, Fishtailed? :eek:

20th Jan 2015, 22:36
Joy Ride, brilliant, I'd forgotten all about that, three holers and five holers etc. Must see if my brother still has it.

Checkboard, I realise now he has just rinsed the tagliatelli, odd shaped colander though.

20th Jan 2015, 23:27
I'd forgotten about Bronco - there was a TV Western called Bronco - something about "tearing across the prairie" that got morphed into "tearing across the dotted line".



joy ride
21st Jan 2015, 07:49
Fishtail: The Specialist was a family favourite when we lived in USA for much of the 60s. Sadly it never made the move back to UK, but to my utter amazement I suddenly spotted a copy in a 2nd hand bookshop in Rochester, Kent and bought it on the spot.

Door hinging inwards or outwards? You don't want to be catched!

21st Jan 2015, 08:01
In about 1983, a a young sprog, I had to go to Fettes College in Edinburgh for some test that would help suggest what career you should follow.

Anyway, did the test and ask politely [as I was a good Public School boy] where the toilets were before the long, arduous journey back across the M8 to sunny Glasgow.

I was pointed through a door which went outside to find suitable toilets, showers, baths etc. - in an open-ended lean-to shed.

I know they breed them tough at boarding school but the idea of using the bog or having a bath outside in the middle of an Edinburgh winter didn't exactly fill me full of envy.

p.s. the test suggested I should be a engineer - well at least they got that right.

joy ride
21st Jan 2015, 10:14
^ The fancier the school, the worse the conditions!

Also: The fancier the school, the quicker they spot you are not a suit-and-tie banker/lawyer type ("one of us") and the quicker they decide "engineering type" (greasy overalls) !

Mac the Knife
21st Jan 2015, 12:15
"Anyone read "The Specialist" by Lem Putts?"

Yeah. Very funny - got a copy somewhere in the vast hoard of books invading my houses (I swear they bookulate at night and reproduce).



joy ride
21st Jan 2015, 12:19
I love the "homespun" thought processes!