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14th Jan 2015, 23:45
BBC News - Ten dead as Texas prison bus collides with train (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30821835)

What's the position in the US regarding suing the state/prison authorities/ any body else they can think of/ for compensation for the relatives? And for the injured?

I suspect even here where we are somewhat less litigious, the sharks (sorry, lawyers) would be gathering.

US Ppruners, what's the answer?

I can see the argument that once a convict is incarcerated, the state owes a duty of care - if they didn't recognise this, they wouldn't feed or provide medical care. But in a case of this sort?

14th Jan 2015, 23:51
Whoa, sounds like "Fugitive" script...

galaxy flyer
14th Jan 2015, 23:53
Suing the state, even for wrongful death, requires the state's permission, essentially under the soverign immunity doctrine. But, likely a suit will be pursued.

I don't buy the "duty of care" doctrine, families should support prisoners while incarcerated, if not capable of doing so, Medicaid could be applied for. The state does provide shelter of a sort. They can earn their meals thru some prison work.


Ascend Charlie
15th Jan 2015, 00:20
The estates of Robert Morse and David Janssen will be suing for breach of copyright. Quinn Martin will receive a royalty for every prisoner who escaped.:E

15th Jan 2015, 00:26
Well, if compensation is geared to actual earnings and potential future earnings then the payout won't be very much, will it?

16th Jan 2015, 01:27
Well, if compensation is geared to actual earnings and potential future earnings then the payout won't be very much, will it?

If they were non-rehabilitated bank robbers, jewel/art thieves, embezzlers, or masters of the Ponzi scheme, and were about to be paroled, those "future earnings" could be considerable! :}

Bull at a Gate
16th Jan 2015, 03:32
Radeng, thanks for making me smile with your use of the apostrophe! My kids laugh at me when I write 'phone. I can tell them now that there is at least one other person in the world who can write properly.

16th Jan 2015, 10:25
Now if it had been the lawyers inside the bus, it could have been a really interesting question.

Who would represent the victims?

Why was the empty seat wasted?

When is the next train due?

Flying Lawyer
16th Jan 2015, 10:40
Steady on. :eek:

16th Jan 2015, 11:03
Sounds like a question for...........CON PILOT

16th Jan 2015, 12:40
Apologies Flying Lawyer :\

16th Jan 2015, 13:31
Attending court a while back, a prisoner brought before the magistrate kept calling him, in spite of being corrected, "Your Majesty".
Much barely-suppressed sniggering in the gallery.

Careful, you could bring on a raft of lawyer jokes.

16th Jan 2015, 13:44
I'm sure he has heard more than any of us here, and even laughed at some.

16th Jan 2015, 15:17
To whom it may concern: Yes I did notice!

16th Jan 2015, 17:53
Sounds like a question for...........CON PILOT

Sorry, all my passengers, that made it to the aircraft that is, all arrived safe and sound. Also, this was a State transport accident, not Federal.

So I really don't know.

tony draper
18th Jan 2015, 11:09
There are safer ways of transporting them.:)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/Deaddogbay/Deaddogbay002/bizarre-ripbird-18_zps69679fb8.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/Deaddogbay/media/Deaddogbay002/bizarre-ripbird-18_zps69679fb8.jpg.html)

18th Jan 2015, 15:01
Is that a big enough lock?

18th Jan 2015, 20:45
A mobile what cage?!?:uhoh: