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11th Jan 2015, 13:46
Residents digging out after blizzards in parts of Nunavut - North - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/residents-digging-out-after-blizzards-in-parts-of-nunavut-1.2896573)

G&T ice n slice
11th Jan 2015, 13:55
Wow, looks like there's been a major systems failure here!

I thought the Canuks had special equipment to send all this sort of stuff just south a tad to fall only in 1 small concentrated region of the US of A inhabited by one of our more illustrious contributors?

11th Jan 2015, 14:08
Oh, we do. We're just delaying for maximum effect - taking out all the airports just when he tries to fly south :E

11th Jan 2015, 14:37
The gusts created huge drifts, some as high as houses.

Ho hum. :zzz:

Chez pigboat from several winters ago.



The local fauna are loving it though.


11th Jan 2015, 14:39
The penguin doesn't look too happy..that'll teach it for beating the Canadiens in Overtime ;)

11th Jan 2015, 14:41
The Alps could do with some of that :sad:

11th Jan 2015, 15:37
....couldn't blame jetstreams because they hadn't been invented yet.

God, weren't we na´ve in those halcyon days before Al Gore and that man with the name like a motorcycle? :O

Fox I'm waiting for someone to point out there are no penguins in the Arctic. ;)

Pinky the pilot
11th Jan 2015, 16:20
I thought the Canuks had special equipment to send all this sort of stuff just south a tad to fall only in 1 small concentrated region of the US of A inhabited by one of our more illustrious contributors?

Which makes me wonder just where rgbrock1 has gone? Haven't seen him on the boards for a few days now. Snowed in, perhaps?:D:E

11th Jan 2015, 18:22
Fox I'm waiting for someone to point out there are no penguins in the Arctic. ;)

and now we know why!

Yamagata ken
11th Jan 2015, 21:13
Plenty here. It looks like this in town at the moment.


11th Jan 2015, 21:23
pigboat's photo of the polar bears enjoying a penguin BBQ have obviously been photo-shopped. All fule know that there are no penguins in the northern hemisphere (outside of zoos). Whoever photo-shopped the otherwise original image should have used a great auk instead:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Great_Auk_%28Pinguinis_impennis%29_specimen%2C_Kelvingrove%2 C_Glasgow_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1108249.jpg

Which looks like a penguin and frequented the Arctic. Until it became extinct sometime back in the mid 19th Century... :{

PS. Yamagata Ken, I couldn't find any penguins in your photo either, yet you said there were plenty there...

12th Jan 2015, 01:19
Arctic Emperor Penguin


aka "Sid"

12th Jan 2015, 03:53
Not again, Yamagata ken! :)
Snow is super. Unless you have to shovel it, of course. To get out of the house.

P.S don't be a fule, airship! They're under the snow, in their dens, of course. :8

12th Jan 2015, 06:06
You never could get fresh penguins in the Arctic, only frozen ones.

Yamagata ken
12th Jan 2015, 06:07
Probes. It's always like that photo at this time of year.

Here are the numbers. Average snowfall in town per winter is 9.7 metres, and the heaviest snowfall winters in the 10 years I've lived here are 15 and 16 metres.

I get to do a lot of shovelling. Yesterday I spent 5 hours clearing the garage roof and dumping snow. Most mornings I get up at 4:30, load up with tea, and start clearing snow at 5:30. It takes about 2 hours to clear the snow ready for business to open. If you hate snow, it drives you nuts. I don't mind.

This morning was beautiful. Only 10cm, so not much work. I was able to take time out to watch the sky turn pink, then blue and enjoy the lovely clean cold air. No penguins though. They are all hibernating.

Here's a photo from 1931. They couldn't dump the snow then, so access to the street was via the first floor windows. It must be spring as the lady on the left has hung out the washing to dry and is enjoying the sunshine,


12th Jan 2015, 06:37
Wow! :D
Must've been great insulation, too? :)

I agree - snow is great, even if you get frustrated sometimes.
And, just can't believe how ignorant one can be - I never thought Japan could have such heavy snow :\.

P.S I'll think about your sweet morning teas when doing the shovelling myself next time. :)

Pinky the pilot
12th Jan 2015, 09:32
The piccies from Yamagata ken makes me extremely thankful that the only time I experience Japanese weather is in their Summer months:ok:

Hokkaido from late May to early August. Love it!:ok:

12th Jan 2015, 09:42

Yamagata ken
12th Jan 2015, 11:52
I took this photo on the road up to Gassan (it's in Yamagata where I live). Gassan opens for skiing in late April, there's too much snow in the winter.


This is a typical winter weather pattern. The low pressure systems track SW to NE up the Pacific coast, and pull in north westerlies from the Siberian High. The NW air stream loads with moisture as it crosses the Sea of Japan, and dumps huge volumes of snow on the N/W of Honshu and Hokkaido. It's similar to the Lake Effect in the US, but much larger in scale.


Probes: sweet tea? Nononono. No. No sugar in my tea, thank you very much :)

G&T ice n slice
12th Jan 2015, 12:27
Amazing fotos - we know someone who'd just LOVE to live somewhere like that! Don't we children?

12th Jan 2015, 12:32
sweet figuratively - although I thought about sugar when I re-read it. :p

So - what about the time when it melts? And how long does it take?

12th Jan 2015, 12:34
Fox3 wrote:

Oh, we do. We're just delaying for maximum effect - taking out all the airports just when he tries to fly south

That will do you no good. I'll walk. :}

12th Jan 2015, 12:37

No, we don't know someone who would like living there, now do we children? :}:E

12th Jan 2015, 12:45
That will do you no good. I'll walk.

Yeah, right.


12th Jan 2015, 12:46
When I was a kid and the snow was whiter, we used to have a 'secret ditch' (or trench or whatever you call it - a deep one, deep and wide enough for a minibus to fit in) - secret in the sense that no-one knew we jumped into the snow there and tried to get out again. Usually just one side had... hmm. what's the word, again? drift? and it was possible to struggle out to the free space (gosh, my English has some considerable gaps in vocabulary!).

Which was not easy (nor safe, an adult would've said, which is why it was 'secret'). Superfun.

12th Jan 2015, 12:48

With my luck, I'll take to walking and before you know it:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlv3_rJnIxQfhL4OW_z9dA4So197Y7GmBMuwWZfVt RDFtVoYds

That's okay though. My son, oh he of the US Navy, will be stationed in Naval Air Station San Diego come next month. I'm movin'!! :}:E

12th Jan 2015, 12:56
Having done some research (using Googoo) about Nunavut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut), it amazes me that people continue to inhabit such regions (even though they have been there for 4000 years).

Admittedly there are only 31,906 occupying an area equivalent to Western Europe, but the inevitable hardship of survival in such polar climates would test most folk.

12th Jan 2015, 13:01
The wife and I went skiing in Niseko a couple of years ago - and had a huge time. The snow and skiing in Japan is incredible.

12th Jan 2015, 13:26
Having done some research (using Googoo) about Nunavut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut), it amazes me that people continue to inhabit such regions (even though they have been there for 4000 years).

Perhaps it's because they live so long ... :ugh:

12th Jan 2015, 13:29

Well, when you think about it there are peoples who inhabit the arid deserts of the earth. Which is probably just as harsh a climate as the cold.

Yamagata ken
13th Jan 2015, 06:11
@probes So - what about the time when it melts? And how long does it take?Spring thaw isn't a problem. The rivers have evolved to carry the runoff and it takes until about September for the high mountain snow to melt. In the Yamagata bowl where I live (~80 metres above sea level) the rice fields are snow-free by the end of April. The soil is warm enough to plant rice and watermelons by late May.


Cherries are in season early summer. Watermelons in mid-summer. We get overwhelmed with free melons as the local brand has very exacting aesthetic standards, and everyone gives away the failures. Rice is harvested in September and October. That's also when the stonefruit come in season. Peaches, plums and nectarines, yum yum. Then until December, its apples and pears.

Solid Rust Twotter
13th Jan 2015, 06:37
Plant some ginger and use it along with the melons to make melon preserve, Mr Ken. Good on toast in the morning instead of marmalade. Got to be a market for it offshore. Add a touch of jasmine and you may even find a local market.

Yamagata ken
13th Jan 2015, 07:32
Thanks for that Mr Twotter. I'll run it past the domestic goddess.


Niseko (in Hokkaido) is rightly famed for snow quantity and quality. Those who are after more challenging terrain prefer Hakuba. These are the top two destinations for overseas skiers/boarders. Whatever, if you like fresh snow, Japan won't disappoint. My skis are ten years old, and in that time I've picked up one scratch.

Anyone interested in Japan wintersports should visit SnowJapan - the Japan winter sports guide and online community (http://www.snowjapan.com/)
This site is accurate and encyclopaedic: travel, where to go, where to stay etc. The denizens are of a distinctly greenish hue and I'm persona non grata for pointing out that flying halfway around the world for a fortnight of sliding isn't going to save the world from death by carbon.

13th Jan 2015, 08:10
Ach! Someone with rice fields near by! :D I've always been intrigued by the plant - somehow the stories about rice mostly start with planting (on the vaaast fields) and I used to wonder how they got the plants :). There are some videos, of course, quite impressive ones with machinery (warning - aviation content with the 2nd one) and all, but maybe you have some first-hand experience (watching it or listening to rice-growers' stories)?



13th Jan 2015, 13:04
I know I have seen this on here before but seeing all that lovely snow on Kens photos......


December 8 - 6:00 PM

It started snowing. The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktail drinks and sat for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven. It looked like a Grandma Moses Print. So romantic we felt like newlyweds again. We love snow!

December 9

We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape. What a fantastic sight! Can there be a more lovely place in the whole world? Moving here was the best idea I've ever had! Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a little boy again. I cleared both our driveway and the sidewalks. This afternoon the snowplough came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again. What a perfect life!Snowman Funeral

December 12

The sun has melted all our lovely snow... Such a disappointment! My neighbor tells me not to worry - we'll definitely have a White Christmas.

No snow on Christmas would be awful! Bob says we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to see snow again. I don't think that's possible. However, Bob is such a nice man, I'm glad he's our neighbor.

December 13

Snow, lovely snow! 8 inches last night. The temperature dropped to -20F. The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took my breath away, but I warmed up by shoveling the driveway and sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplough came back this afternoon and buried everything again.. I didn't realize I would have to do quite this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back in shape this way. I wish I wouldn't huff and puff so.

December 15Idyllic Snowman - Wish I was there

20 inches forecast for today. I sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer. Bought snow tyres for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels. We stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out. I think that's extravagant. We aren't in Alaska, after all.

December 16

Ice storm this morning. Fell on my butt on the ice in the driveway putting down salt. Hurt like hell. The wife laughed for an hour, which I think was very cruel.

December 17

Still way below freezing. Roads are too icy to go anywhere.

Today the electricity was off for 4 hours. We had to pile the blankets on to stay warm. Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her. Guess I should've bought a wood stove, but won't admit it to her. Gee I hate it when she's right. I can't believe I'm freezing to death in my own living room.

December 20

Yippee the electricity's back on, but we had another 14 inches of the damn stuff last night. More shoveling! Took all day. The damn snowplough came by twice. Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they're too busy playing hockey. I think they're lying. Called the only hardware store around to see about buying a snow blower and they're out. Might have another shipment in March. I think they're lying. Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me. I think he's lying.

December 22

Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of the white stuff fell today, and it's so cold, it probably won't melt till August. Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to go to the loo. By the time I got undressed, and dressed again, I was too tired to shovel. Tried to hire Bob who has a plough on his truck for the rest of the winter, but he says he's too busy. I think the asshole is lying.

December 23

Picture Snow Cat and Santa ClausOnly 2 inches of snow today. And it warmed up to zero. The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning. What is she, nuts?!! Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago? She says she did but I think she's lying.

December 24

6 inches fell, but the snow was packed so hard by the snowplough, I broke my shovel. Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the son-of-a-bitch who drives that snowplough, I'll drag him through the snow by his hair and beat him to death with my broken shovel. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been! Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was too busy watching for the damn snowplough.

Funny Snow Story Continues ...

December 25 - Christmas Day

Merry Christmas! 20 more inches of the damn slop tonight - Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil. God, I hate the snow! Then the snowplough driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude. I think she's a real idiot. If I have to watch "It's A Wonderful Life" one more time, I'm going to stuff her into the microwave. Snow Rollers

December 26

Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was all HER idea. She's really getting on my nerves.

December 27

Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze; plumber came after 14 hours of waiting for him, he only charged me $1,750 to replace 4 of my pipes.

December 28

Warmed up to above -20. Still snowed in. The BITCH is driving me crazy!!!

December 29

10 more inches. Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in. That's the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb does he think I am? Christmas Tree Story

December 30

Roof caved in. I beat up the snowplough driver, and now he is suing me for a million dollars, not only the beating I gave him, but also for trying to shove the broken snow shovel up his ass. The wife went home to her mother. Nine more inches predicted.

December 31

I set fire to what's left of the house. No more shoveling.

January 8

Feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed???

Yamagata ken
14th Jan 2015, 02:58

Rice is normally propogated in trays before planting. Here it is done in plastic greenhouses so the farmers are ready to go when the soil gets warm enough. You have identified a missing part in my pictorial diary. I need to get a photo of my neighbour's nursery. The rice.


Loading the planting machine




And I do a bit of farming myself. Baling hay for a local sheep farmer,


14th Jan 2015, 07:45
thank you, Yamagata ken, very interesting indeed! :)