identity of these wheels

[gnc]

hello, in my wisdom of buying odd things at auctions, i have a pair of wheels and tyres, ive tried googling all the numbers but with no luck, so is there any one out there that might recognize what these fit,
dunlop wheel no AH 5324
h/HUB ASSY AHO 87192 1 3072298
AH 43675 ISS SN 2616 HS
date 40 09
no 5030H1
mod 1
EL146


thanks in advance, geof

[Tony Mabelis]

I would contact Dunlop....(or is it Meggitt these days).
Their tech. library should be able to help.
Tony

[critter592]

You could also try posting on the Key Aero forums in the "Historic Aviation" section.

Link (http://forum.keypublishing.com/forum.php)

[Sir George Cayley]

They're mine! Can I have them back please?;)

SGC

[gnc]

thanks for the response, ive got a couple of photos , not sure how to post them, any pointers would be appreciated.

[Herod]

I would suggest too small to be from a Fokker.

[Flap40]

Looking at the size in relation to the vice i'd say the wheels are only about 10" in diameter. The tyres look quite narrow. The fusible plugs would suggest something quite fast.

How about a Folland Gnat main wheel?

[Flap40]

Agreed, not a Gnat. I think however that it might be a Jetstream. The hole and bolt pattern matches this one at Cosford as does the tread pattern.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Jetstream_RAF_Museum_Cosford.jpg/800px-Jetstream_RAF_Museum_Cosford.jpg

If you go to wiki' a much larger pic is available.

Actually, the more I look at it, the less I am convinced that it is a Jetstream wheel.

[gnc]

many thanks for all responses. especially OM15 for post pics.more info
wheel diameter. 11 3/4 inch, 6 inch wide, and tyre size is 14 ply , 650x 10. , cheers geof

[Flybiker7000]

14 ply! Thats a detail about aviation tyres that I'll remember!

[gnc]

they do look like they are jetstream wheels, thanks again, geof

[gnc]

i spoke too soon, it appears.

[DaveReidUK]

Given that they are military surplus Dunlop wheels, how about a 125/Dominie?

[Flap40]

The BAe Hawk has the correct number of holes and also the centre protrusion on the outside face of the wheel.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/jodel_bucket/ScreenShot2015-01-02at185550_zps5e0a9481.png

[om15]

The wheels in the first photo seem to be a possible match, but the RAF model looks as if it has a different wheel, possibly a different wheel/brake unit mod state? Are there any Hawk specialists amongst us. Anyway I think you have it cracked.


Just out of mild interest gnc, what will you use the wheels for?, I knew a Station Engineer who was a very heavy smoker who used half a nose wheel hub as an ashtray.

[DaveReidUK]

The wheels in the first photo seem to be a possible match, but the RAF model looks as if it has a different wheel, possibly a different wheel/brake unit mod state? Are there any Hawk specialists amongst us.I make no claim to be a Hawk expert, but there are certainly some photos on the web of RAF ones (both T1 and T2) with the wheels in question.

Here's one: http://files.websitebuilder.prositehosting.co.uk/fasthosts1217/image/5_riat141098rafhawkxx184arrive.jpg

[Flap40]

I think that 155211 is the odd one out as its wheels have the holes further inboard.

I also think that the 'elongation' on XX159 (and also on XX308) is the two bolts either side of each hole merging with the hole in the photo to form an blob on the photo.

Can say with some confidence that these wheels are for some versions on the Hawk but not all?

[DaveReidUK]

I think the answer is to do with the spacing of the bolts that hold the two halves of the hub together.

On the original Hawks, including the RAF's T1s, the 12 bolts are evenly spaced around the rim with 6 lightening holes, one between each pair of bolts (albeit very slightly closer to the hub). As the bolt heads accumulate dirt over time, the effect is to make the lightening holes look from a distance as if they are elongated, but if course they aren't really.

On later Hawks, such as the Canadian CT-155s and at least some of the RAF's T2s, the bolts are spaced in adjacent pairs and so the lightening holes are located noticeably closer to the hub: http://tomahawk-design.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/produkte_baehawk100/img_9307_1.jpg

[gnc]

thanks everyone for their input, so good chance they are hawk. got no plans for them at the moment, i buy things on impulse, got these with a load of aircraft tyres from the auction, i make a silly bid and if i get them thats ok, if not nowt lost. cheers geof

[Noah Zark.]

Excuse the blatent thread drift please, folks, but in OM15's picture in post #23, the Hawk has some Maple leafy roundels on it. Do the Canadians fly the Hawk as well?

[ICT_SLB]

Noah,
They're part of the NATO Flight Training School at CFB Moose Jaw in Alberta. Airframe details here. (http://www.rwrwalker.ca/CAF_Hawks_detailed.html)

[Noah Zark.]

ICT_SLB
Thnaks for the info! :ok:

[India Four Two]

the Hawk has some Maple leafy roundels on it. Do the Canadians fly the Hawk as well?

Hey, Noah Zark, the word "Canada" on the nose is a bit of a clue! ;)

Apropos the CT-155, there is a very interesting video of an ejection at Moose Jaw, after a bird-strike. You can see the bird at 6 seconds and just before impact, you can see the shadow of one of the seats.

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This video has been doing the rounds as a purported F-16 ejection, in spite of the very British and Canadian accents!

[Noah Zark.]

India Four Two,



It would have been if I could have seen it. The picture I got was from the tail of the aircraft up to the trailing edge of the wing. :)