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JohnnyRocket
13th Dec 2014, 03:57
Breaking of sterile cockpit rules here

The stunning images that show dozens of pilots are breaking safety rules: Contraband instagram snaps increasingly taken by men behind the controls even when coming in to LAND | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2872380/The-stunning-images-dozens-pilots-breaking-safety-rules-Contraband-instagram-snaps-increasingly-taken-men-controls-coming-LAND.html)

grounded27
13th Dec 2014, 04:50
Many of those appear to be PC SIM photos, many also appear to be from a jumpseat, others appear to be at a safe altitude.

Capetonian
13th Dec 2014, 07:14
The Daily Mail can reveal that hundreds of airline pilots every day are endangering the lives of tens of thousand of passengers as they play Russian Roulette with their multi million pound aircraft as they take photographs from the captain's seat as the massive Airbus Jumbo jets skim the rooftops of schools and shopping centres as they approach Britain's airports.

Rather than concentrating on landing their aircraft, they are taking photographs from the cockpit, or 'selfies' during the final stages of the flights.

Vicky Thickasaplank (16) had just come out of MacDonalds at Matalan Shopping Centre with her children, Chardonnay (3), Nicky (2), Crystal (1), and newborn Shiraz when she saw a British Airways Airbus 747 landing at nearby Luton Airport in Essex on a flight back from the Portuguese holiday island of Majorca, packed with holidaymakers.

"He was so low I could see the hairs in his nostrils and he was holding a camera and taking pictures for his Facebook page", Vicky said: "As he came over the propellers on the engines nearly knocked us over. I almost dropped the 56" TV I'd just bought with my Giro money, I was that scared" she told us.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/British_Midland_DC-9-15_G-BMAA.jpg

A British Airways Jumbo Airbus.

Edit : We have been asked to correct the following errors in the article :
We mis-spelled Ms. Thickasaplank's name : The correct spelling is : Thickastwoshortplanks
The correct spelling of her oldest daughter's name is Shardonaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
The article should have said :
Vicky Thickastwoshortplanks (16), who lives in a £42,000 council flat, and expecting her sixth child, had just come out of MacDonalds at Matalan Shopping Centre with four of her five children, Shardonaaaaaaaaaaaaay (3), Nicky (2), Crystal (1), and newborn Shiraz.
The TV she was carrying was not a 56" set, it was a 62".
Our aviation consultant has asked us to point out that the incident referred to take place at Stanstead Airport in Hartfordshire, not Luton Airport in Essex, and that the aircraft in the picture is a slightly different version to the one referred to, as the propellers have been removed to save fuel.

tyne
13th Dec 2014, 07:39
Brilliant! You'd walk in to a job there.

newaviator
13th Dec 2014, 07:55
Usual - absolute tripe , stills extracted from mounted video/action camera footage, for the majority of these shots it would appear . Some are agreeably mobile phone shots.


Video cameras do not require any interaction from the crew once switched on and safely mounted .... for hundreds of examples check out good old youtube ........

Alsacienne
13th Dec 2014, 13:03
Love your post Capetonian .. if you give up the day job, I'm sure you'd be taken on as features writer for various UK redtops ...:D:D

Mind you some of the photos are stunningly beautiful and I for one am in awe of Mother Nature.

SpringHeeledJack
13th Dec 2014, 13:18
Mind you some of the photos are stunningly beautiful and I for one am in awe of Mother Nature.

What's that!? "I'm a whore of mother's nature ?" How very dare you sir! :* Some of the photos were very beautiful.

Mr Cape's post was indeed a good summation of any article about aviation in the DM and included all the salient points, though the price of the person's house was not mentioned, so 9/10 for effort.

As I understand it when the PNF has the permission of the PF (LoL, OMG!) to take photos in a phase of the flight where minimal monitoring is required and the company allows said filming/photographing then why not ? There was a great set of films from a few Brazilian pilots of TAM following their daily routine around Brazil. If the cameras are attached to fixed mounts then little can go wrong, though a handheld in unexpected turbulence 'might' be somewhat interesting to write up in the maintenance log ;)


SHJ

763 jock
13th Dec 2014, 13:42
Surprised the Mail didn't pick this up though...

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/293230/interim_si_voyager_report.pdf

Skipness One Echo
13th Dec 2014, 16:16
Well, not to interrupt a good rant but there's a few BA pilots on twitter you might wanna search through. They take some really good photos from the front seats.

Capetonian
13th Dec 2014, 16:44
My editor has requested that I update the article in post #3. I have done so.

RHS
13th Dec 2014, 17:16
Capetonian, one of the funniest posts I've seen on PPRuNe for a while, brought a smile to my Swanick delayed day!

Cymmon
13th Dec 2014, 18:08
If the daily mail actually provides articles as well researched as Capetonians, then I'm sorry but I'm stopping my subscription to the Daily Mirror. I need the facts, not waffle!

Hotel Tango
13th Dec 2014, 18:41
:ok: Great laugh Capetonian. Brilliant!

Alsacienne
13th Dec 2014, 21:21
@SHJ

"I'm a whore of mother's nature ?"Should have gone to Specsavers .....

How very dare you sir! Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned .... both Mother Nature and this poster ... look at the ending of my username! ;-)

Left_Pedal
14th Dec 2014, 02:17
Hang on a second...... What about when a pilot is sifting through manuals on the flight deck during any stage of flight. What about when a student pilot is having to manually navigate during their solo nav lessons or a flight test, and then later in life where they're having to hold a chart on their lap, wizz wheel in one hand, other hand on the controls etc.

This is total BS!!! We are all trained to be able to do several things at once. At least while taking a split second photo, the focus is still on controls, attitude and out the window!

These journo's really have no idea what usually goes on in the cockpit throughout all stages of flight.

Lets see this Yanofsky fella fly in the cockpit of a 5 hour commercial flight in a multi pilot situation, then let him go on a single pilot flight and see what the pilot has to do through all stages of flight.

Obviously he's not researched what really goes on in the cockpit before blurting out accusations of safety.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story!

Left_Pedal
14th Dec 2014, 03:12
This is hilarious!!


https://www.facebook.com/youaredangerous

MidlandDeltic
14th Dec 2014, 16:33
They may have picked it up from this article I came acrss the other day : The pilots of Instagram: beautiful views from the cockpit, violating rules of the air ? Quartz (http://qz.com/233165/the-pilots-of-instagram-beautiful-views-from-the-cockpit-violating-rules-of-the-air/)

I don't know enough to comment on the legal side of things, but sdeveral pilots appear to have removed pics subsequent to being contacted.

MD

giggitygiggity
14th Dec 2014, 19:58
The guy that came up with this 'extensive research' posted a question on pprune that was obviously veiled to his advantage...

CBS Interview - Are Instagramming airline pilots violating the law? - Videos - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/are-instagramming-airline-pilots-violating-the-law/)

PPrune Thread - http://www.pprune.org/questions/551602-your-airline-s-rules-peds.html?highlight=quartz (http://www.pprune.org/questions/551602-your-airline-s-rules-peds.html?highlight=quartz)

David Yanofsky, Bitter failed wannabe? Without class indeed...

INeedTheFull90
14th Dec 2014, 21:14
Can't see the problem in the cruise. After all it's far more distracting eating my moong dhaal, or trying with all my might to get the reformed ham sandwich down my throat. Maybe we flyers shouldn't eat crew food neither?