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ExXB
1st Dec 2014, 08:41
My lovely bride is going deaf, her Dr puts here in the first category of age related hearing loss.

As a result, when she watches TV, she must have the volume high. How high? We'll too high for me to stay in the same room. I can hear the TV everywhere in the house and in particular the phony laugh/cheer/boo tracks that some programs like to use (and I swear they turn up the volume when playing those)

The love of my life appreciates my pain and, although not willing to give up here "Strickly come Screaming' programs, she is willing to use some sort of headphones. So, I'm looking for recommendations on products that you may have used yourself. Features would include rechargeable batteries (Aa/Aaa type, don't need another power brick), reasonably light and not bulky. Easy to turn on and off. Bluetooth OK, but not critical. Plug into normal (small) headphone jack on Philips Smart TV.

Your input and advice is most appreciated.

Bushfiva
1st Dec 2014, 09:13
My father used headphones for that reason for many years. He went through quite a few headsets for various reasons. The main thing I would suggest: make sure the ear pads are cheap, freely available, and easy to replace. We had issues with Phillips (replacement pads simply not available) and Sony (pads a ludicrous price, several months delivery).


Other things: long battery life, reasonable recharge time, go for something with a charger cradle rather than a cable: it's an easy way to keep the headphones always charged and in good condition, since the ear pads don't touch anything when on the cradle. Treble and bass controls, equalizer, voice/music switch so you can try to accommodate the type of deafness. Balance control so you can accommodate differences between the ears.


My father found on-ear types more comfortable than over the ear types, partly because the latter were heavier and hotter to wear.


I'll mention the ear pads again. I'd rate them at least 70% of the purchasing decision.

ExXB
1st Dec 2014, 09:35
Thanks Bushfire, some good points.

On average how long did the pads last? Thinking it might be an option to stock up when I buy the headphones ..

ian16th
1st Dec 2014, 09:38
ExXB

What she needs are hearing aids with Bluetooth capability.

This is the brand of kit that I use: Oticon Inc - Your Hearing (http://www.oticon.com/products.aspx)

If you need details, PM me.

Unfortunately, I'm an experienced expert on the matter :sad:

Bushfiva
1st Dec 2014, 09:42
He got through about one a month. Sometimes wearing out, sometimes just getting a bit manky. It was quite a surprise.


I assume you've thought this through, but you said you want to connect to the headphone socket on the TV. If that mutes the speakers, you may prefer to use something like line out so your wife can use the headphones and you can listen to the set's speakers.

Bushfiva
1st Dec 2014, 09:56
ian16ht, a business friend uses a set with a pocket remote so it can toggle between various pre-programmed sound profiles. But talk about sticker shock...

ian16th
1st Dec 2014, 10:14
But talk about sticker shock... In spades!

I have just purchased a new left ear unit and an additional Oticon Streamer Pro (The controller). So I am very aware of the price.

But, they work extremely well. I have the Bluetooth adapters for the TV and my land line phone. Fortunately most cellphones include Bluetooth, so an adapter isn't needed.

One thing I discovered when I entered the world of Bluetooth, an area of expertise is your local Motor Bike accessory shop! The Bikers use Bluetooth devices to talk to each other when in convoy!

A maker that specialises in Bluetooth devices is Jabra. ExXB might find something on their web page that is suitable to his wife's needs.

Sallyann1234
1st Dec 2014, 10:22
Just a word of caution. If considering a bluetooth device, be aware that it may suffer interference in close proximity to a WLAN router, as they operate in the same 2.4 GHz frequency band.
Some cordless earphones operate at 869 MHz, and these should not suffer the same problem.

ExXB
1st Dec 2014, 10:23
Thanks guys,

I don't think hearing aids are going to work. The Dr. says she doesn't need them, yet. Once she does they should be covered by our health insurance.

I've seen some (Sennheiser (http://en-us.sennheiser.com/wireless-infrared-headphones-tv-stehoset-is-410-tv)) that hang off the ears like a stethoscope. I can get a similar version here in Switzerland.

I don't mind the TV being muted, that is one of my objectives. I really don't like the Cr*p she watches.

OFSO
1st Dec 2014, 10:31
A lot of debate about a very simple matter.

You need headphones with a radio link (not optical, not bluetooth). I've used Sony MDR RF815R for the past 12 years so I can watch and listen in privacy to my TV while the ghastly "Britian's Got X Factor Dancing" is watched by the mem'sahib at the other end of the room.

Excellent volume/freq response/selection of RF channels. Several different cables provided (jack, phono). Charge automatically when replaced on the stand.

Edit: yes pads are a stupid price from Sony, however they are very cheap from amazon.

ian16th
1st Dec 2014, 10:32
That looks like a nice piece of kit.

About the TV muting, this depends on the TV that you have, and the settings that can be controlled. I have a Sony that has completely independent settings for the internal speakers and the Earphone output, so I have 100% control.

For your TV it is simply a case of the famous phrase, RTFM :)

ian16th
1st Dec 2014, 10:43
OFSO

If the lady has an ongoing, and deteriorating, deafness problem, it is not just a simple matter of listening to a TV set.

The hearing aid companies produce equipment for a range of needs, business, social and recreational.

But an important factor is that the manufactures are competitors, and once a user buys into a brand it can be extremely expensive to switch to a different make.

OFSO
1st Dec 2014, 10:49
Agreed, but horses for courses. It can often be simpler using different bits of gear for different sources. I also have noise-cancelling headphones which are useful in noisy conditions (see previous remark about programns I do Not Wish To Be Aware Of) in my living room. I use a bluetooth hook to connect to my phone when out of doors. Yes it requires "putting on, taking off" but I haven't found a single device that works with everything. Oh, and doesn't cost the earth.

SpringHeeledJack
1st Dec 2014, 12:36
The Sennheiser ones are pretty good and I would recommend them, I think these are the ones http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-RS-4200-TV-Headphone/dp/B005N8W0UM/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1417437233&sr=8-12&keywords=sennheiser+tv+headphones and it allows the TV to remain at a desired level for the non wearing persons, whilst taking care of the mutton jeff handsomely ;)


SHJ

vulcanised
1st Dec 2014, 12:44
My hearing is failing although I don't watch TV I do watch iPlayer and find the subtitle feature is often useful.

ian16th
1st Dec 2014, 13:01
OFSO

Oh, and doesn't cost the earth. In the world of hearing aids, this is a significant problem. In September my new hearing aid cost the equivalent of 900.00.

funfly
1st Dec 2014, 13:04
You can get an app for the ipad which will use the mike and adjust the volume and the tone of the headset to compensate for hearing loss.
I use one on my ipad and works well.
If you are interested I will find the name of the app (don't have it to hand)
An alternative which I also use, is one of the surround sound amplifier which will produce the sound much clearer than the TV speakers and you can get them (I have one) where you can select a voice enhancement option.

Dee747
1st Dec 2014, 13:05
ExXB - while accepting the info that your wife doesn't need hearing aids at this time, for the info of yourself and others, my mother does wear aids, and has for years been taking them out and donning headphones in order to hear the TV properly. The rest of us sit looking at a TV with no sound coming out unless we change it ourselves.

A friend who also wears aids has been recommending to my mother to contact her local health trust in order to get the sensory support folk out. She can then request a loop system for in the living room, which is very simple to install. This will allow her to continue using just her hearing aids without the need to switch to her headphones. Friend swears by the loop, and says it's been a godsend for him. :ok:

OFSO
1st Dec 2014, 13:44
sit looking at a TV with no sound coming out

A great advantage considering most UK programs these days.....however.

All depends on the TV. I have an old Ansonic (not a spelling mistake) with headphone outlet and loudspeakers controlled separately for volume. Modern smart TV's have almost every output controllable individually.

(Still doesn't improve the crap they are transmitting, though).

Afterthought: if you mainly watch Freesat or via a TDTV box you can also plug wireless headphones into a spare audio out on that.

dazdaz1
1st Dec 2014, 15:49
My tv has a subtitle button on the remote, has yours? Could be another alternative to head phones.

ian16th
1st Dec 2014, 16:14
My tv has a subtitle button on the remote, has yours?

Not a lot of help if the TV company doesn't transmit the text subtitles.

dazdaz1
1st Dec 2014, 16:39
Maybe not in your neck of the woods Ian, Swiss (CH) tv yes, check out the OP location, you'll have to do a google or maybe understand Latin.

ZOOKER
1st Dec 2014, 16:59
Why not simply listen to the wireless?
There's 'The Organist Entertains', oh, and that chap who used to be in Manfred Mann is pretty good. :E

ian16th
1st Dec 2014, 17:15
Maybe not in your neck of the woods IanIn these days of satellite TV, the location of the Rx isn't the consideration. It is up to the TV company Tx'ing the data.

In my case the working subtitle button is on the decoder remote.

I make do with the 140+ channels on DSTV Premium.
http://selfservice.dstv.com/get-dstv/#

vulcanised
1st Dec 2014, 17:36
Going back to my comments on iPlayer, paradoxically, the sound from my computer speakers is a lot more intelligible than that from the TV.

John Hill
1st Dec 2014, 18:24
If the hearing loss is, not yet, serious try an extension speaker first. Placed close to the favourite viewing chair.

victor tango
1st Dec 2014, 19:14
I suffer from hearing problems.
All I wanted was a device that connected to the TV so that I could turn the sound up or down WITHOUT it affecting the volume of the TV that others in the room were watching.
My God daughter bought me a set of headfones all singing all dancing.
when connected to the TV it shut the volume of the TV off!
The TV manual or was it the headfone manual, said turn off muting???
All this was tried but ended up as my TV being fairly old didnt recognise this new headfone attachment.........so its under the bed still in its box.
I suppose Ill have to buy an new TV in the hope that it will work.
Or just read a :mad: book.:ugh:

OFSO
1st Dec 2014, 19:36
I'm sure I've read this thread as a script for "Last of the Summer Wine".

sea oxen
1st Dec 2014, 19:45
I go along with SHJ - Sennheiser. I have over-ear 201s that are very light and are my best friends.

But I don't have the hearing problem. Mrs SO has tinnitus so I just let her get on with it. :sad:

ian16th
1st Dec 2014, 20:02
I'm sure I've read this thread as a script for "Last of the Summer Wine". One of the early ones, I trust.

The show went on long after series fatigue had set in.

ExXB
1st Dec 2014, 20:23
Thanks again everyone, I've ordered the Sennheisers.

ExXB
19th Jan 2015, 19:44
Thought I would thank you guys again for all of your help.

As I said I got her the Sennheisers which were wrapped up with all the other prezzies under the tree.

When she opened them I got a real funny look as in I was going to regret this. However I persevered and set up so that she could use them just by putting them on. (there is a clever on/off switch built into the 'stetho' headset.) She can hit the mute button on the remote, but sound still comes through her headphones.

After a couple of days her tune changed a bit, and now she is telling everyone how wonderful they are. She can finally hear the TV clearly, which she obviously wasn't doing by adding more volume, and I have peace and quiet. She says these ones, that hang down like a stethoscope, are much more comfortable than traditional headphones. I also thinks she likes the idea that her hair doesn't get mussed.

I've already ordered some (yes, expensive) spare ear pieces and a spare battery. Not that she needs them just yet, but just planning for the future ...

OFSO
19th Jan 2015, 20:30
spare ear pieces

Horrendously expensive if you buy original manufacturers, very cheap if you measure them and order the same size from the longest river. I've got stacks of spares after my Sony wireless phones died the death.

Fareastdriver
19th Jan 2015, 21:12
In September my new hearing aid cost the equivalent of 900.00

From Lidl, complete with five spare batteries and three spare earplugs......6.00

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tony draper
19th Jan 2015, 21:17
Remember fitting a hearing aid for a old lady on the Rediffision cable system,hard wired rather than wireless in those days, sitting in her chair she kept shouting across the room to me, I cant hear anything! I cant hear anything! so eventually I wacked the control up to eleven,still she shouted, I cant hear anything!,so I turned the switch over to check the connection and it must have suddenly made,you could have heard her earphones outside across the street,poor old doll shot about six foot into the air.one made one's excuses and left the room before I wet meself laughing.
I know I know but one is cruel when one is young. :uhoh:

LordGrumpy
19th Jan 2015, 21:21
If the television has the red and white phono outputs.
One lead to connect to.
A stereo amplifier.
Pair of headphones loud speakers turned off.
Assuming the tv has connectivity: might that work?

ian16th
20th Jan 2015, 08:25
From Lidl, complete with five spare batteries and three spare earplugs......6.00

Unfortunately, the closest Lidl is about 6,000 miles away!

ShyTorque
20th Jan 2015, 09:58
Slight thread drift, but I recently heard a story which amused me. A friend in his 70s was on a long distance, week long "touring assembly" with his car club, in his home built car. He became increasingly concerned about a whining noise which got louder and higher pitched, the quicker he drove. He kept stopping at the side of the road to check under the bonnet and because other younger members were concerned about leaving him to his own devices in case the engine failed, he held up the entourage.

After extensive diagnosis, the fault couldn't be found and he considered retiring from the run. No-one else could hear the noise like he could, but then they weren't used to the car. He did eventually complete the event, but he found it stressful to say the least.

On getting home he discovered his new hearing aid was picking up interference from the car's alternator!

ExXB
20th Jan 2015, 12:31
Correction, the earpieces are not that expensive, 12 for five pairs from the manufacturer. It was the spare battery that cost a bomb.

And as the CHF has been freed from its peg to the euro, even less expensive in real money!

victor tango
21st Jan 2015, 19:46
Ive got a set of Sennheisers. headfones base unit etc
Anyone in need is welcome to it rather than it rotting in its box.