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mad_jock
22nd Nov 2014, 08:49
normally I ignore these idiots.

But sometimes when your feeling low they do cheer you up.

Busted Pilot Forgets To Turn Off CHEMTRAILS While Landing | World Truth.TV (http://worldtruth.tv/busted-pilot-forgets-to-turn-off-chemtrails-while-landing/)

Nice video of vortexs in the fog.

John Hill
22nd Nov 2014, 08:54
Try to convince a chemtrail enthusiast to write to their local airline asking for 'used cabin air filters' so they can be tested for 'chemicals'.:p

(Obviously, if aircraft are spraying crap 'up there' following aircraft will suck it in and it will show on the filters.!

Capetonian
22nd Nov 2014, 09:06
I have a friend who firmly believes in chemtrails and many other 'conspiracy' type theories. He is an educated, intelligent man in his 50s who worked in airline IT for many years (which may be what sent him round the twist).

In order to maintain our friendship, we came to an agreement a few years ago not to discuss these things because it always ends up with him referring me to nutjob videos and websites, and because it's on the internet, it must be true. There is (or used to be) a 'conspiracy' channel on Sky, 200 I think it was, and he watched it all day.

mad_jock
22nd Nov 2014, 09:09
Don't I nearly had to smack one of the idiots as we have an old inhibited water meth system in one of the aircraft and just wouldn't accept that it wasn't the tanks for a chem sprayer.

he wanted to start breaking locking wire so he could get an ear bud into the tanks.

Tankertrashnav
22nd Nov 2014, 09:38
Wow - impressive photograph. I have a niece who lives on the fringes of the weirdo world of hippies, and I was shocked to see her discussing "chemtrails" on Facebook with some of her nutty friends. I had to resist a sarcastic comment in the interests of family harmony!

Oh by the way, that's 'vortices', mad_jock ;)

david1300
22nd Nov 2014, 10:36
Oh dear, what a careless pilot, forgetting the pre-landing Chemtrails Checklist :confused: Last command for him/her, I fear. Reassigned to Chemtrail Tank Cleaning duty from now on.

Mechta
22nd Nov 2014, 10:53
I can't believe how careless Airbus and the RAF were to have the chemtrail dispensers switched on when the first A400M flew into Brize Norton the other day. Right in front of the the nation's press too. :E

ZM400 arrives into Brize ? FighterControl ? Home to the Military Aviation Enthusiast (http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&p=670271&sid=e0430e8f41be2bc357307b8be97adc3e#p670271)

oxenos
22nd Nov 2014, 10:55
"Chemtrail Tank Cleaning duty"

After which he will forget everything.

Shaggy Sheep Driver
22nd Nov 2014, 10:57
Perhaps this is a reflection that many leave school today with zero knowledge of basic physics....? Into the void of ignorance between their ears floats all sorts of nonsense to account for simple stuff they see but don't understand.

ShyTorque
22nd Nov 2014, 11:05
Oh dear, what a careless pilot, forgetting the pre-landing Chemtrails Checklist

Hang on, why are people putting this in a checklist? It's supposed to be a secret!

I can't believe how careless Airbus and the RAF were to have the chemtrail dispensers switched on when the first A400M flew into Brize Norton the other day. Right in front of the the nation's press too.

You'd have thought that the RAF would have given them priority training in where those switches were. Having made a terrible cockup of such magnitude, I suppose the only way to deal with it is to promote the pilots and give them a desk job to get them out of the way.

Pilot.Lyons
22nd Nov 2014, 12:45
My tattooist strongly believes in the chem trail theory,i just sat there and didnt let on that i know anything about aviation etc.... She may have done it wrong!

She also believes that little bits of dust caught by light on cameras are dead people... Hehe crackeads

ExXB
22nd Nov 2014, 12:57
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OFSO
22nd Nov 2014, 14:41
She also believes that little bits of dust caught by light on cameras are dead people

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.......... I believe some dust at least IS the remains of dead people. Although not the dust under my bed, of course. Well I HOPE it's not dead people. Or at least if it is, then NICE people.

Anyway, how did they get there ? Did they die first somewhere outside and the dust blow in ? Or did they break into my house, climb under the bed, die there and turn to dust ?

I think we should be told.

Capetonian
22nd Nov 2014, 14:48
The vinegar spraying nutjob says :
"I know this sounds weird but it does work ........... you just wait a little while and then they break up."

Jeez ....... people like that really exist? Scary.

pigboat
22nd Nov 2014, 14:55
Much of the dust floating around your home is made up of dead skin chewed off by the 10,000 mites living in your eyebrows. There, howzat for a theory. You can look it up. As Johnny Standley said "It's in the book!" :D

Windy Militant
22nd Nov 2014, 14:59
Although not the dust under my bed

If science is to be believed most of the dust under your bed will be dead bits sloughed off yourself and the dust mites feeding on it! :ooh:

How about starting the rumour that the government is putting mind bending chemicals into Vinegar to save the cost of hiring spraying aircraft by getting the chemtrails nuts to do it to themselves! Actually thinking about it, it might already be happening watching that video! :};)

OFSO
22nd Nov 2014, 15:01
the 10,000 mites living in your eyebrows

Is this an exact number or an estimate ? and are they 'resident' or 'illegal immigrant" mites ? Does Obama have any plans to make the latter into the former, and if not should I inform some of the members of UKIP posting on this thread ?

KelvinD
22nd Nov 2014, 15:06
Here's one with overfilled tanks.
Ship Photos, Container ships, tankers, cruise ships, bulkers, tugs etc (http://www.kelvindavies.co.uk/kelvin//details.php?image_id=17446)
And another launching an attack on the people of Myrtle Ave.
Ship Photos, Container ships, tankers, cruise ships, bulkers, tugs etc (http://www.kelvindavies.co.uk/kelvin//details.php?image_id=17452)
I met a bloke at Manchester last year who told me how he posts on these chemtrail forums. I said I was surprised as he seemed a sensible guy. He assured me he is sensible and he does it for the entertainment value. He just enjoys dropping the stone in the pond and watching the ripples form and spread.

pigboat
22nd Nov 2014, 15:25
Is this an exact number or an estimate ? and are they 'resident' or 'illegal immigrant" mites?
No census has ever been carried out, but it is believed it began with a small group who dropped anchor babies and escalated from there. ;)

IBMJunkman
22nd Nov 2014, 16:07
Mites in eyebrows? What about their poop? Talk about stinkye!

And don't forget your mattress!

Meet the critters inside your mattress - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/07/30/mattress.bedbugs.dust.mites/)

fenland787
22nd Nov 2014, 16:39
When will you guys admit it's real and happening? Not just airplanes either, how on earth do you think F1 gets so well funded? Huh?? They travel the world and get the low-level spraying job done on our tax dollars.

Proof positive here: (and don't give me that vortices mumbo jumbo either)

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--M0b9Rvl3--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1972vtg0j88e1gif.gif

That Eccelstone geezer probably owns the Chem works that brews the stuff too.

ShyTorque
22nd Nov 2014, 16:39
Hehe crackeads

You're letting a crackhead tattoo you? :eek:

oxenos
22nd Nov 2014, 17:11
" putting mind bending chemicals into Vinegar to save the cost of hiring spraying aircraft "
Windy, I suggested that a few months ago on a previous Jet Blast chemtrails thread. Try to keep up.
OFSO - its not the dead people under your bed you need to worry about, its the live tigers.

con-pilot
22nd Nov 2014, 17:48
Damn fool idiot pilot, all he or she had to do was to flip this switch.

http://forums.propilotworld.com/customavatars/avatar746_35.gif

I mean really. :rolleyes:

Mechta
22nd Nov 2014, 17:53
The chemtrail fluid manufacturers must be having trouble keeping up with the demand, Have you noticed how some days everyone is spraying, yet on other days no one is? Isn't it strange how everyone around the world runs out of fluid at the same time. One would think there would be occasions when some of the arriving aircraft would be spraying, even if local stocks had run out.

Flypro
22nd Nov 2014, 18:18
God, I hope that photo doesn't go viral con-pilot.

How could you have posted that?:sad:

OFSO
22nd Nov 2014, 18:26
From my terrace on a fine day (i.e. not today) I can see Begur (BGR on 112.2) and it's interesting how quite often, over the beacon one airliner will be making the turn to SS/W and switch off the chemtrail while another will start. Despite monitoring the ATC I have never heard the command on*execute*execute* execute so I guess that as suggested elsewhere on this thread, it is "automatic". Also, FR's never emit chemtrails - is this Ryanair-related or is it the 737NG's that are not fitted with the spraying devices ? Perhaps some ground staff at Dublin can confirm.

Now, about those tigers........

con-pilot
22nd Nov 2014, 18:29
How could you have posted that?

By orders from upon high. :suspect:

Mine is not to question why, but to do or spray.

The switch on the photo was in a LearJetGulfstreamFalcon 900SP/V that I used to fly, the afterburner equipped four engine version.

The altitudes and speed we Chemtrailed from was 10ft AGL at Mach1.5 to FL-900 at Mach 3.0.

All that is of course classified, so don't tell anyone. :=

Capetonian
22nd Nov 2014, 18:38
Isn't it strange how everyone around the world runs out of fluid at the same timeThis is because the highly toxic balance of chemicals used in the fluid is inherently unstable, and under certain influences, which I'm not supposed to talk about, but I know you'll keep it to yourself, are primarily sunspot and solar flare activity, it self-destructs and becomes useless and invisible, although it can be seen if you wear a tinfoil hat and look through those red and green 3-D spectacles that you get at 3-D cinemas. In fact it decomposes into a grey sludgy mess and when scraped out of the bottom of the tanks, it is sold to a well known global fast food chain and made into Mc. ...... err. hamburgers.

Please highlight with your cursor the part of this posting between the 'top secret' markers to see a secret message which nobody else must see.

TOP SECRET DO NOT DIVULGE
(The bit about the 3-D specs isn't true, but if we see people wearing tin-foil hats and 3-D specs looking skywards, then we'll know they've read this.)
TOP SECRET

Windy Militant
22nd Nov 2014, 18:44
Windy, I suggested that a few months ago on a previous Jet Blast chemtrails thread. Try to keep up.

I've been scraping this grey gloop out of some tanks, er what was the question! :confused:

Looks like the got the flow rate a bit wrong over Buffalow dontcha know! ;)

mikedreamer787
22nd Nov 2014, 19:05
Con pilot yonks ago I recall my 737's CT switch was badly located and right next to the taxi switch. When the FO flicked the wrong one for taxi, the ground staff outside.... :uhoh:

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My A320 has a 4300kg CT tank that automatically mixes with fuel in the wing tanks to prevent such an error and sprays the intended recipients without pilot input.

http://lessonslearned.faa.gov/AirTransat236/FUEL_SD.jpg

The French are such sneaky sods!

con-pilot
22nd Nov 2014, 19:13
Con pilot yonks ago I recall my 737's CT switch was badly located and right next to the taxi switch.

Yes, I can see where that would be a problem. That is why on the LearJetGulfstreamFalcon 900SP/V with the four afterburner engines, we had the switch all by itself.

Sometime I could a bit of a klutz. :O

wings folded
22nd Nov 2014, 19:24
Why has no maker disguised it as the cabin "no smoking" switch?

A redundant switch and panel since you can't smoke anywhere nowadays.

Except at FL390, discharging your fumes over unaware populaces below, of course.

con-pilot
22nd Nov 2014, 19:41
A redundant switch and panel since you can't smoke anywhere nowadays.


Not really, we had to smoke when at FL-900 cruising at Mach 3.0. Something to do with the ram function of the engines and pumping the excessive Chemtrail chemicals into the cockpit at that speed.

I being a mere pilot really didn't understand that stuff, but that was what the Chemtrail scientist told us. We had to smoke to counteract the effects of the Chemtrail chemicals.

That and an occasional sniffer of brandy.

Okay, maybe more than an occasional sniffer. :O

wings folded
22nd Nov 2014, 19:47
but that was what the Chemtrail scientist told usYou actually met him? Respect... or whatever it is that modern youth says.

con-pilot
22nd Nov 2014, 20:00
You actually met him?

Oh no, he is way too important for me, a mere mortal, to actually meet or physically be in his presences.

He communicated with me by leaving notes written on toilet paper in the bottom of pond near the UN building in New York City.

Can’t say anymore you understand, top, high purple secret and all that stuff.

John Hill
22nd Nov 2014, 20:09
The procedures must have changed as they used to just leave them in the trash can beside the mobile hot dog stand.

SMT Member
22nd Nov 2014, 20:21
My lot, having a very clever DFO, thought it would be best to hide the switch in plain sight, and then add some more for effect.

It's worked a treat ever since, not even the nosiest of our biscuit chuckers has asked any embarrassing questions! Well, not about the switch anyway.

http://i59.tinypic.com/kd37k1.jpg

con-pilot
22nd Nov 2014, 20:40
The procedures must have changed as they used to just leave them in the trash can beside the mobile hot dog stand.

Yes, the hot dog stand went out of business. Which annoyed me, as I really liked the hot dogs.

vulcanised
22nd Nov 2014, 20:43
The time to get really worried is when you see a drone with chemtrails.

con-pilot
22nd Nov 2014, 20:46
The time to get really worried is when you see a drone with chemtrails.

Shssss, mums the word. :oh:

Why do think I retired?

Mechta
22nd Nov 2014, 20:50
As Mikedreamer787 showed, the chemtrail system has been installed on the centre tank. Its no coincidence that 'inerting' systems are on those self same centre tanks. Most people have been fooled into believing that 'inerting' refers to making safe the flammable atmosphere in the fuel tank as a result of TWA800. The reality is it refers to 'inerting' the free will of the more rebellious and free thinking members of society who refuse to conform.

Now if the flammable atmosphere in the tank was really being inerted, you would have a gauge to show you the oxygen content in the tank at any particular moment. Have you ever seen that gauge fitted?

BOING
23rd Nov 2014, 00:01
I used to fly a bomber that could carry 6900 pounds of chemical in a tank that was hauled up into the bomb-bay. Unfortunately, after two years of design and trials somebody realized that we had no way of dumping fuel so, although they could get the chemicals in, there was no way of getting them out. They converted the chemical tanks to fuel tanks which ensured that, if you had a mechanical failure that required aborting a mission, you had to fly around for a couple of hours longer before you got down to maximum landing weight since we still had no way of dumping the extra fuel.

It was rumoured that the chemical tank was to be filled with a powerful artificial scent that simulated vodka. The idea was we would spray the chemical over advancing Russian forces triggering the desire for a big drink session which would give our lads - of course not in the least effected by the smell of vodka - a few extra hours to manufacture the thousands of tanks and hundreds of aircraft we needed to carry on the fight.

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Pom Pax
23rd Nov 2014, 00:51
FR's never emit chemtrails - is this Ryanair-related or is it the 737NG's that are not fitted with the spraying devices ?
The reason for this is Irish neutrality. Being a nonaligned nation they receive no funding for a spraying program.
As a result FR do not get a subsidy for spraying without which MOL is not prepared to accept the weight penalty of fitting spaying devices.
However there are rumours that a mandatory surcharge is being considered for offering chemical free flight.:D

Dushan
23rd Nov 2014, 00:51
The switch on the photo was in a LearJetGulfstreamFalcon 900SP/V that I used to fly, the afterburner equipped four engine version.


Is that the wooden airframe jet aircraft you used to fly?

John Hill
23rd Nov 2014, 01:07
Yes, the hot dog stand went out of business....

It was inevitable, once that idiot in the Land Cruiser with worn out brake rotors crashed his stand there really wasn't much else he could do.

Solar
23rd Nov 2014, 06:18
I would have thought that by now they would have an auto cutoff switch controlled by the radio alt to prevent forgetful pilots doing this!!!

As others have said I have a mate who comes across as reasonably intelligent who firmly believes in this and again it's down largely the time he spends on the net. Very discussion I have with him usually ends with him saying its on the net so it must be true.

probes
23rd Nov 2014, 09:55
The chemtrail fluid manufacturers must be having trouble keeping up with the demand, Have you noticed how some days everyone is spraying, yet on other days no one is?
Now I understand what I saw - with my own eyes - a couple of days ago - two planes flying exactly the same line from opposite directions, and instead of colliding they went through eachother smoothly. Must have been either to cover up that there were 2 of them (after all, there is room enough up there for each of their own trail?), or maybe the fluid concentration was too low, so another one had to do it again. :E

Capot
23rd Nov 2014, 10:31
MOL is not prepared to accept the weight penalty of fitting spaying devices.Spaying devices are a whole new subject having little to do with chemtrails, which is particularly sensitive in Catholic Ireland where they are being trialled on the priesthood community.

They are also top secret, so anyone who reads this must hand himself or herself to the Police/Garda to have the knowledge chemically removed.

coldair
23rd Nov 2014, 11:04
I had to laugh when the son said "We are not the average family"


Poor kid, hope he's out of that mad house and doing something useful at university.



coldair

con-pilot
23rd Nov 2014, 17:09
It was inevitable, once that idiot in the Land Cruiser with worn out brake rotors crashed his stand there really wasn't much else he could do.

Oh, okay, I was told it went out of business because the owner switched to all vegan hot dogs.

But, perhaps the driver of the Land Cruiser bought a vegan hot dog, thinking it was a real hot dog and it was not an accident due to worn out breaks.

This could be the start of a new conspiracy! :suspect:

Chemtrails and vegan hot dogs, what is the connection????????

Dushan
23rd Nov 2014, 17:28
Oh, okay, I was told it went out of business because the owner switched to all vegan hot dogs.

But, perhaps the driver of the Land Cruiser bought a vegan hot dog, thinking it was a real hot dog and it was not an accident due to worn out breaks.

This could be the start of a new conspiracy! :suspect:

Chemtrails and vegan hot dogs, what is the connection????????

Ground based chemtrails can be produced by grinding vegan hotdogs and sheep dung, then spraying it from a very cleverly disguised equipment inside a pop-up tent on the rear of a Ford ute. Of course the ute, too, has to be disguised with external sunshade, in the colour of the body, as well as with some aftermarket pretend-HID lights. In addition to being hideously ugly, and thus having people turn away when it approaches, the chemtrails-mobile achieves anonymity by driving in the back roads of NZ where very few sane people would venture.

Mechta
23rd Nov 2014, 17:38
Chemtrails and vegan hot dogs, what is the connection????????

The connection is that neither make any sense whatsoever. After all, if you are a vegan, who doesn't want to eat meat, why the hell would you want to buy something that has the shape and texture of the thing you don't want to eat?

If I started marketing meat products formed into shapes of human body parts, which left the buyer in some doubt whether they are buying animal or human meat, would I be onto a winner? :ugh:

Dushan
23rd Nov 2014, 17:42
Good point, Mechta.

I often wondered why vegetarians would make a vegetarian "meat loaf" and insist on offering it to non-vegetarians telling them "it taste just like real meat loaf". WTF, if you don't like meat, why are you making something that tastes just like meat?

Mechta
23rd Nov 2014, 18:00
Dushan, I think it comes down to the people who are dreaming up these things are not vegan or vegetarian, and being somewhat simple, they think that the only alternative to eating meat is something that looks and tastes a bit like it.

I guess if you asked a meat eater to name a vegetarian food product, they would automatically think of the ones with the word 'vegetarian' as a prefix. Thus if they are looking for food for a vegetarian, that's what they will buy.

I don't think its normally the vegetarians feeding vegetarian 'pseudo-meat' to the carnivores, its usually the other way round. Most vegetarians would just cook a meal that doesn't need meat in it.

con-pilot
23rd Nov 2014, 18:21
The connection is that neither make any sense whatsoever. After all, if you are a vegan, who doesn't want to eat meat, why the hell would you want to buy something that has the shape and texture of the thing you don't want to eat?


Well first off, nothing in this thread is supposed to make a bit of sense what so ever, "tears of laughter". :p

But they do have vegan hot dogs, vegan meat loaf, vegan turkeys made out of tofu and even vegan chicken sandwiches.

However, I do agree with you, why on Earth would vegans want to eat 'meat' tasting or looking vegan food? Doesn’t make any sense to me. But they do in the few ‘Vegan’ restaurants I’ve been in.

I didn’t try any of ‘meat’ dishes, I always order a salad. I can’t stand tofu.

oxenos
23rd Nov 2014, 18:51
" why on Earth would vegans want to eat 'meat' tasting or looking vegan food? "

Bit like drinking caffeine free coffee or alcohol free beer.
Why not just have a cup of hot water / glass of cold water?

You realise this is all a conspiracy to get us off the subject of chemtrails.

Capetonian
23rd Nov 2014, 18:53
Tofu has to be one of the most revolting edible substances known to man. In fact ........ let's take out the word 'edible' because it's not.

I often wondered why vegetarians would make a vegetarian "meat loaf" and insist on offering it to non-vegetarians telling them "it taste just like real meat loaf". WTF, if you don't like meat, why are you making something that tastes just like meat?
How would a vegetarian know what meat tastes like, assuming of course that they've always been veggie?
Most of the vegetarians I know (a lot by the way) don't not eat meat because they don't like its taste, but either for 'ethical' reasons or because they believe, despite man being a carnivorous animal by design, that it's bad for them.

GrumpyOldFart
23rd Nov 2014, 19:03
mobile hot dog stand


Mobile hot dogs? How do they work, then??


:confused:

Mechta
23rd Nov 2014, 19:13
Mobile Hot Dogs

https://nitropower.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/ourdog.jpg?w=500&h=313






You realise this is all a conspiracy to get us off the subject of chemtrails. Well, someone's got to, what with photos of the switches and images from the multifunction display of the tank plumbing system; its hardly going to be a conspiracy much longer, is it?

I can see the authorities having to hire in extra black Omegas, Range Rovers and Chevy Suburbans, given the number of 'visits' they will have to make.:ooh::eek:

Must go, someone at the door.

oxenos
23rd Nov 2014, 19:23
Don't tell them your name, Mechta.

Dushan
23rd Nov 2014, 19:25
OMG, Mechta, I didn't think there is something more phallic looking than a maroon Ford ute with a sun visor and a pop-up tent. How I was wrong.

Mechta
23rd Nov 2014, 20:10
Drama over, just some bloke in a black suit and tie asking if I posted on a forum as 'Oxenos'. A bit strange, the way the bloke was wearing sunglasses at night though???


Re the car:

http://instantsite.ru/gallery/image.php?mode=medium&album_id=22&image_id=416

BTW: Where's the picture of this ute with the pop up thingy that everyone's on about?

con-pilot
23rd Nov 2014, 20:19
BTW: Where's the picture of this ute with the pop up thingy that everyone's on about?

Ah well, you see that is another conspiracy. :suspect:

Dushan
23rd Nov 2014, 21:55
Here, let him see it, con-pilot, he is one of ours.

http://www.pprune.org/8752276-post226.html


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7493/15658571998_9ca89cf520.jpg

probes
23rd Nov 2014, 22:04
cute?

Bit like drinking caffeine free coffee or alcohol free beer.
Why not just have a cup of hot water / glass of cold water?
for the taste, when you can't afford alcohol or caffeine?

Dushan
23rd Nov 2014, 22:44
And speaking of conspiracies, did we all forget what happened 51 years ago, yesterday? Or bringing up chemtrails, yesterday, on purpose to divert us from the grassy knoll.

John Hill
23rd Nov 2014, 23:26
Yesterday was 23 November, surely something significant must have happened on that date?

Mechta
24th Nov 2014, 00:14
Just back from the pub.

Thanks, I think:eek:, for the heads up. Is that fabric wheel chock for a monster truck the result of driving through a camp site too fast or is it meant to look like that?, On the subject of 'heads' is the lady pictured sitting on one of these?:

http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mpZ2ziMebA-7FCwMOsTe4Aw.jpg

If so, and if the tent location is intentional, maybe some additional work on the privacy angle is required?

Pinky the pilot
24th Nov 2014, 01:03
Had a few of the believers sometimes demand of me just what the chemical being sprayed is.

I tell them Dihydrogen Monoxide.:eek:

Not one has worked it out yet!:rolleyes:

mikedreamer787
24th Nov 2014, 01:13
Penn & Teller stuff huh Pinks? ;)

Penn And Teller Get Hippies To Sign Water Banning Petition - YouTube

Mechta
24th Nov 2014, 01:45
Had a few of the believers sometimes demand of me just what the chemical being sprayed is.

I tell them Dihydrogen Monoxide.:eek:

Not one has worked it out yet!:rolleyes:Dihydrogen Monoxide was used in the past, but it can prove fatal in large doses. In one single incident on 15 April 1912, over 1500 people were killed by prolonged exposure to the chemical in its liquid state.

These days Hydrogen Hydroxide is the most common constituent of chemtrails, as it has similar effects on the human body in low concentrations, yet it is impossible to differentiate once diluted with water.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
24th Nov 2014, 03:14
In one single incident on 15 April 1912, over 1500 people were killed by prolonged exposure to the chemical in its liquid state.

I believe that DiHydrogen Monoxide in its solid state was primarily responsible for that one...;)

Caboclo
24th Nov 2014, 03:48
Dihydrogen Monoxide was used in the past, but it can prove fatal in large doses.

Tsk, tsk, killing off the drones? We can't be having with that. :=

chuks
24th Nov 2014, 08:10
Australasia's answer to the American Wienermobile!

I had been looking at John Hill's Maroon Monstrosity from the front, when I took it to be the original Gay Liberation Dildomobile, just resprayed from its original hot pink color, but looked at from the right rear quarter, above, I see that it's actually the Tobleronemobile, the flimsy fabric cover approximately duplicating the well-known pentahedral shape of that disgusting, lumpy Swiss confection.

I recently attended a small liberal arts college in the States, where I formed half of a General Chemistry class, while people were being turned away from Underwater Basket-Weaving 101 for lack of space. Not coincidentally there was a strong demand for "Chemical-free" accommodation on campus. I asked one petitioner if they were objecting to all chemicals, including stuff such as oxygen, but I never got a reply.

MagnusP
24th Nov 2014, 08:25
You realise this is all a conspiracy to get us off the subject of chemtrails.

They spray a special chemtrail to make us get off the subject of chemtrails. I thought everybody knew that.

probes
24th Nov 2014, 08:28
Furthermore: we know who flip the switches! :suspect:

Avtrician
24th Nov 2014, 09:12
Here is an attempt to spray the public at an "Airshow" in Kiwi land (by the RAAF) in an effort to stop Kiwis going to Oz for work and beer. It went a bit wrong, but the crowd thought it was "keen Bro"..

Didnt work but, they still keep coming :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3O7Zj0kmb0

skydiver69
24th Nov 2014, 09:23
Can anyone here remind me about what chemtrails cause? Is it global warming or global cooling, population control or population expansion? Just what exactly is it....I think we need to know! :ok:

Avtrician
24th Nov 2014, 09:54
Its supposed to be usefull for mind and population control..

It seems to be partially successful, in that there are pockets of places where the population have no minds (cant think or be educated), but breed like rabbits..


:ok::ok::ok:

MagnusP
24th Nov 2014, 10:02
Skydiver69, I used to know what they were for, but they sprayed a special one to make me forget. HTH.

mikedreamer787
24th Nov 2014, 10:31
What's this thread about? WTF
are Chemtrails?

I did see previous posts on this
thread albeit from me, but I can
not remember making 'em.

Must've been an imposter (and
whoever you are I've changed
my password)!

..Dunno if its got anything to do
with leaks from a fuselage tank
while doing a preflight stroll last
night. I remember I was doused
in a white steamy gas. Co doctor
said it was a hydraulic leak - but
hydraulic fluid isn't white.

Have to go to a Flight Ops Board
of Review tomorrow and attend a
class on "Special Airbus Systems"
(whatever that is).

Since then, I have this incredible
urge to support Socialist & Green
parties, give up work forever, as
well as getting myself a 16 year
old girlfriend - with large breasts
- and making her pregnant. :ooh:

MagnusP
24th Nov 2014, 10:34
give up work forever, as
well as getting myself a 16 year
old girlfriend - with large breasts

OK; there's clearly a part of you fighting off the chemtrail influence. Stick with it and you'll be just fine. Good man.

oxenos
24th Nov 2014, 10:46
" asking if I posted on a forum as 'Oxenos'"

No problem. They turned up here, I gave them a whiff of you-know-what, told them I was Napoleon the Eighth, and they went off quite happily.

Suckers.

I'm not Napoleon the Eighth, I'm Caesar the Fourth.

teeteringhead
24th Nov 2014, 10:59
Bit like drinking caffeine free coffee or alcohol free beer.
Why not just have a cup of hot water / glass of cold water? But if you mix alcohol-free beer with alcoholic ginger beer, it makes a pretty reasonable shandy...... :ugh:

radeng
24th Nov 2014, 16:26
I suppose that strictly speaking, they are 'chemical trails', unless one denies that water is a chemical.....

ricardian
24th Nov 2014, 19:05
One comment to these images was: Cheap air fares on budget airlines must be subsidised by geo engineering. Just a thought!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10482926_1508705922693478_7952695986726556485_n.jpg?oh=2eba9 2559abbd71801d4b8e281895415&oe=551C571E&__gda__=1426641780_c8f5fcbf3d5eb9047e745af4d5e5192d

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10482008_1508705882693482_1041522646970773204_o.jpg

Windy Militant
24th Nov 2014, 19:25
Please take your cameras with you when your travelling and snap everything you can
That should be interesting in Turkey!:D

con-pilot
24th Nov 2014, 19:31
That should be interesting in Turkey!

And India.

Dushan
24th Nov 2014, 21:06
Although I think we do have a few sots from NK, curtesy of Mongolian Bar Flies.

G-CPTN
24th Nov 2014, 21:22
LoCo airlines usually load their passengers 'from the front', so it is understandable if they restrict the hold baggage to the rear.

Sallyann1234
24th Nov 2014, 21:27
From their website:

Launching private action in the small claims court against individual airlines may prove to be a fabulously effective weapon. We can supply you with all the evidence you need. All you need to do is get yourself as solicitor and issue proceedings for damages yourself.

I'll be on to my solicitor in the morning.

On second thoughts, I'll leave it to their e-petition which will force the government to take action. They already have 936 signatures, so just another 99,064 to clinch it.

ExSp33db1rd
24th Nov 2014, 22:37
And India.

The Company operated a charter for another airline once, and re-painted "our" aircraft with the other logo, basically red.

Flew into Madras, and there was an instruction not to take photographs at Indian airports, but whilst completing the return flight plan and Met. Briefing I asked permission to photograph "my" aircraft. Why? I was asked, 'cos it's red, I replied, and I usually fly a blue one.

I won't bore you with the rest, suffice to say that about 6 phone calls were made up the chain of command, each time the reason given was because the Captain says it's red ! Eventually it was time to go without the permission having been received, so I said "forget it".

Does the Captain now not wish to photographs his aircraft, I was asked ? Correct. The same 6 phone calls were then made to cancel the request ( that had never been approved anyway. )

Read the above with accompanying head movements.

Such fun.

con-pilot
24th Nov 2014, 23:30
I landed in Bombay for a fuel stop once, we were parked on a remote ramp, with no other aircraft and the boss got off the aircraft to take some pictures of his aircraft in India.

My goodness the handler got excited, yelling "No photos, no photos!" over and over again. So the boss got back in the aircraft and asked me if he could take photos out of the cabin and cockpit windows. I told him to go for it and that I get some photos of the aircraft.

So while the boss happily took photos out of the aircraft windows, I walked around on the outside taking photos of the aircraft with my mobile phone while I pretended to talk on said phone. :p

Dushan
24th Nov 2014, 23:43
Didn't these people ever hear of Google Earth? What are they afraid of? Someone spying on their precious little airport? Those that need that kind of pictures have them without announcing themselves.

bnt
1st Apr 2015, 22:02
I've been wondering how I could get in to the Chemtrails business, since I suspect it pays well. I'm considering taking this training course (http://www.catc.cz/other-training/chemtrails-operator-course/) - what do you all think?

TURIN
1st Apr 2015, 22:17
Contact the ICA.
Dimmer skies saves lives. :8

Lonewolf_50
1st Apr 2015, 22:40
bnt, I understand that application for that course closes out today! :cool:

bnt
1st Apr 2015, 23:00
Curses! Foiled again! :suspect:

uffington sb
2nd Apr 2015, 11:52
View from the lounge bar on a recent QR trip DOH-LHR.
The chemtrails pipe is clearly visible. What more proof do you need!
http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af298/uffingtonsb/image.jpg2.jpg (http://s1017.photobucket.com/user/uffingtonsb/media/image.jpg2.jpg.html)
How do I make my photos smaller?

Flybiker7000
2nd Apr 2015, 12:31
Almost since I came on the web I have been using 'Irfan View' freeware to handle my photos. A big advantage in Irfan View is that in the moment of saving to harddrive one are asked at wich quality the picture are to be saved (purposely demand of high or low resolution or lack of space on harddrive) and this feature might be used (quite low-tech I admit) to minimize own high res. pictures for use on the web or attachments to textmessages.
Other picture-programmes might have the same feature but at a time been ticked at 'always full resolution' - Give Your programme a servicecheck on the subject!

uffington sb
2nd Apr 2015, 12:45
Cheers Flybiker. I'll give it a go.

pulse1
12th Apr 2015, 08:17
The south coast is really being bombarded by chemtrails this morning (12th). I have never seen so many chemtrails going in different directions.

Do you think it has anything to do with the forthcoming election?:D

joy ride
12th Apr 2015, 08:30
Not just the coast, here is the sky above Bermondsey at 7:44 this morning:

Quite dramatic in my opinion; if I had a giant chem spray nozzle I would like to Air Noughts and Crosses!

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/Captain_Bubble/P1080450_zpsiomrcxuj.jpg

jetslut
12th Apr 2015, 13:41
Chaps,
whilst I indeed enjoy a good giggle, I feel I must take issue with the candid manner in which this topic is being discussed.
As most of you are aware, ISF phase II is now underway and has become, thanks to social media, video footage of the CX B777 having failed to disarm the system at TOD, and the extraordinary outburst of 'our' USAF colleague December last, little more than an 'open secret'. The project appears not to have been fully compromised and with the lack of credible evidence, should remain so.

The introduction of 'contrail reducing airborne particles' versus the 'altitude responsive stratospheric elements' that are being slowly superseded, provides aesthetic improvements that should further discredit the sceptic camp. I would however ask if it is prudent to post photographs of 'equipment' which in my view, only fuels the arguments of the conspiracy nutters.

In these days of austerity, I for one, am thankful for the chance to accrue hours and the financial rewards under the 'special hours in training environment' plan (and let's face it, who doesn't? :ok:), but should we not remember that this is still an open forum?
I have no wish to stifle freedom of speech, but I do advocate caution on this matter. Banter appears to be the best tool but let's not back it up with fact.

Hempy
12th Apr 2015, 14:01
It's ok, the chem-trailers have nothing concrete so I think operations are still viable. Besides, anyone with any sense knows that unless it's released at or above FL300 the dispersion effects are relatively negligible. The Connie tripler was an exercise in negligence, but gravity and a narrow spray rate would mean that no quantifiable proof could be obtained unless they had a measuring device immediately at hand (which, obviously (thank God) they did not).

I think the 'conspiracy theory' conspiracy is working quite well. As long as they
are seen as the 'fringe minority' there is nothing to fear. As my learned instructor told me many moons ago "Spray on, McDuff!".

RJM
12th Apr 2015, 14:30
I'm fairly late to this party. I thought the 'chemtrails' people were worried about were jet exhausts. I didn't know about the aerosols and conspiracies.

What a laugh. Where are the tanks in the aircraft, and where are the tankers delivering the noxious stuff and pumping it into the tanks? Where are the nozzles? What a laugh.

Mechta
12th Apr 2015, 15:12
Where are the tanks in the aircraft, and where are the tankers delivering the noxious stuff and pumping it into the tanks? Where are the nozzles?The chemtrail fluid as dispensed, isn't actually stored in the aircraft. The 'air separator', part of an alleged 'Fuel tank inerting system', creates the stuff in flight by modifying air. Ejection nozzles are hidden in the engine exhausts, hence chemtrails being visible behind the engines. Sometimes they also eject through 'fuel tank vents' which, surprise, surprise, are mounted at the tips where the plumes also seen to emanate.

Many aircraft fly with the centre wing tank near empty on most routes, or at least not containing fuel, so who knows what they are putting in it? Probably concentrates which are added to the product produced onboard to create extra strong doses.

The strange this is that chemtrails are older than aeroplanes themselves, yet despite the evidence its only since aircraft have been used, that people have woken up and taken notice.

Here are some static dispensers:
http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/lookandlearn-preview/XM/XM10/XM10040/XM10040759.jpg

and here is an early mobile unit. Note the prominent chemtrail tank on the middle part:

http://essexmodelsandminiatures.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/article-1273040-0023C02100000258-73_634x321.jpg

Some people have become so addicted to the chemicals they have gone to the effort of building units so they can self-administer:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdJZyH0j6IhyA1IFeuj4BURkWSDXHXoDdJqL3H1rK DsBD-u_YLlg

:E

G-CPTN
12th Apr 2015, 15:29
I didn't know about the aerosols.

What a laugh. Where are the tanks in the aircraft, and where are the tankers delivering the noxious stuff and pumping it into the tanks?

In-flight refuelling for airliners will see non-stop services shrink the globe (http://theconversation.com/in-flight-refuelling-for-airliners-will-see-non-stop-services-shrink-the-globe-39931)

jetslut
12th Apr 2015, 15:37
Some people have become so addicted to the chemicals they have gone to the effort of building units so they can self-administer:

...this apparently extends even to aircrew

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/kc-135r-ait.jpg

:ooh:

Keef
12th Apr 2015, 16:21
There's a "Global March Against Climate Engineering" in London on April 25th. I'm not sure how "London" gets to be "Global", and I suspect some of the Global attenders may fly in on mobile chemtrail units, but I think I may attend anyway.

oxenos
12th Apr 2015, 16:49
The whole point of chemtrails is to manipulate people's minds.Why not add a chemical to the brew which will stop them worrying about the chemtrails?

Quizling
12th Apr 2015, 17:27
Why not add a chemical to the brew which will stop them worrying about the chemtrails?

They have. It works! :oh:

con-pilot
12th Apr 2015, 17:33
It works!

Truly it must, as I have been informed that I sprayed, or would that be spewed, chemtrails for over 40 years and never knew a thing about it. :ooh:

Groucho
12th Apr 2015, 17:45
That's because a Chemtrail is like a sonic boom or a silent fart - if you make it you don't get to see/hear or smell it. It is, after all, behind you...........

jetslut
12th Apr 2015, 20:36
I fear you're not seeing the Italian angle...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjGXn249Fc0

Una Due Tfc
12th Apr 2015, 21:20
The reason for this is Irish neutrality. Being a nonaligned nation they receive no funding for a spraying program.
As a result FR do not get a subsidy for spraying without which MOL is not prepared to accept the weight penalty of fitting spaying devices.
However there are rumours that a mandatory surcharge is being considered for offering chemical free flight.:D


It's because our minds are already being controlled by the fluoride in the tap water don't you know? Hence why Irish airlines don't need to spray. Doesn't stop the Speedbirds doing it when flying over though, trying to get us to rejoin the empire, no doubt at the behest of the space lizards in Buckingham palace

cockney steve
12th Apr 2015, 22:45
I blame that KEEF and his workmates.....I've been to one of their recruitment centres and the bloke in charge didn't hang about....had a bit of a witter about his big chief who he referred to as "GOD"....sang a song and then, BAM! no messing, nailed his colours to the mast and called out,
"LET US SPRAY".... Obviously, this was not an unusual occurrence, for many of the regulars knew what was coming and ducked down,behind the benches in front of them.....He was a real subversive, this fellow as he was a cross-dresser to boot!....I keep clear, now.

Keef
12th Apr 2015, 23:55
You're getting the idea, Steve.

If you come to our lot, there is a risk of getting sprayed, particularly if there's a baptism happening because we do fling it about a bit.

But the music's good (the director of music is seriously capable).

Sallyann1234
13th Apr 2015, 10:19
Nice one Steve!

david1300
13th Apr 2015, 12:48
You're getting the idea, Steve.

If you come to our lot, there is a risk of getting sprayed, particularly if there's a baptism happening because we do fling it about a bit.

But the music's good (the director of music is seriously capable).

Love it :D

arnoldbeck
13th Apr 2015, 18:05
THIS WAS TAKEN IN LONDON Yesterday morning. WHY ARE THEY SPRAYING THIS from airplanes ? See video below the picture... What do you guys think of this ?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=699669690143757&set=o.321477711219892&type=1&theater

jetslut
13th Apr 2015, 20:17
Ooops :eek:

TURIN
13th Apr 2015, 21:23
THIS WAS TAKEN IN LONDON Yesterday morning. WHY ARE THEY SPRAYING THIS from airplanes ? See video below the picture... What do you guys think of this ?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=699669690143757&set=o.321477711219892&type=1&theater

Did you not get the memo?
DHMO is good for you.
Dimmer skies saves eyes.

Sallyann1234
13th Apr 2015, 22:49
That photo from 1940 is frightening.
Even during the Battle of Britain, Churchill was busy spraying us with chemicals.

https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10409004_10206516562141951_397738310605355074_n.jpg?oh=179ab 06f9db58cb23b36c141068d001c&oe=55972D33

Ascend Charlie
13th Apr 2015, 23:39
Ahh, yes, the 1130 am spray that settles on the lunchtime groups in the parks. Keeps them calm and ensures that they go back to their offices like meek little sheep.


Baaaa, humbug.

ruddman
13th Apr 2015, 23:48
Hmm...not sure if want to be out having lunch in the park with that battle raging above. Chance of being hit with debris perhaps low, but hey, who wants to risk a piece of Bf109 imbedded in their head while trying to enjoy a ham and cheese sandwich? Not I.

I see just right of top centre, one started to splutter. Running out of the happy gas I gather.

thing
14th Apr 2015, 02:51
I always wondered about the thousands of cartridge shells that must have come raining down after those dogfights. You can just imagine someone looking up in admiration at out gallant Hurricanes and Spitfires getting an empty .303 in the eyeball.

Pinky the pilot
14th Apr 2015, 04:43
Did anyone else actually take the time to read some of the comments in that link posted by arnoldbeck?

Such as the one which stated; ''Someone should start shooting those planes down.":ugh:

Either posted in very poor humour or really does think that way. The former is pitiable, the latter very worrying.:mad:

Clare Prop
14th Apr 2015, 05:54
This page provides hours of fun winding people up

https://www.facebook.com/InternationalChemtrail?fref=ts

Sallyann1234
14th Apr 2015, 09:59
I always wondered about the thousands of cartridge shells that must have come raining down after those dogfights. You can just imagine someone looking up in admiration at out gallant Hurricanes and Spitfires getting an empty .303 in the eyeball. Not forgetting the actual bullets, most of which would have missed their targets. And shrapnel from AA fire.

But I wonder about the authenticity of that photo. Isn't it perhaps just a little too iconic? I'm sure someone here can advise on this, but I didn't think German fighters of that era had sufficient range to engage in dogfights over London. I thought the dogfights happened over the Channel and Kent when the RAF attacked incoming bombers protected by the 109s.
??

Hempy
14th Apr 2015, 10:04
Hmm...not sure if want to be out having lunch in the park with that battle raging above. Chance of being hit with debris perhaps low, but hey, who wants to risk a piece of Bf109 imbedded in their head while trying to enjoy a ham and cheese sandwich? Not I.

Ham AND cheese?? There's a war on, you know! :=

jimtherev
14th Apr 2015, 10:16
Hmm...not sure if want to be out having lunch in the park with that battle raging above. Chance of being hit with debris perhaps low, but hey, who wants to risk a piece of Bf109 imbedded in their head
Not forgetting the actual bullets, most of which would have missed their targets. And shrapnel from AA fire.
Me old granddad carried a scar on his palm to his grave, having picked up a bit of shrapnel which landed on his tin had while fire-watching.
I still have the shrapnel somewhere. (prolly in contravention of the Official Secrets Act or Elfin Safety or sumsuch.)

Mechta
14th Apr 2015, 10:55
Perhaps there are no Luftwaffe aircraft in that Big Ben picture. Maybe its just the RAF trying to get themselves sorted out into one of Leigh Mallory's 'Big Wings'...

Sallyann1234
14th Apr 2015, 11:39
Big Ben? I don't see it in that picture.:8

Mechta
14th Apr 2015, 12:53
Ok, Sallyann1234, the clock tower which contains a bell known as Big Ben. Is that better? :rolleyes:

con-pilot
14th Apr 2015, 19:01
But I wonder about the authenticity of that photo. Isn't it perhaps just a little too iconic?

Sally, are you questioning that there are contrail in that photo taken back then, or just that they are over London?

Reason why I am asking is that there are literally thousands of films showing B-17s and B-24 leaving contrails during the daylight bombing raids over Germany, that one can find by the easiest of research.

Not to mention stories by my father about leaving contrails with his B-17, as if saying to the Germans ‘Here I am, please shoot me.’.

Sallyann1234
14th Apr 2015, 19:24
I was querying whether there would be the sort of action to leave that dense pattern over London. It looks like a large dogfight, which suggests fighters against fighters, that I thought only happened much nearer the coast.
My question was whether 109s or 190s had sufficient range to sustain fighting over central London. Do you know the answer?

thing
14th Apr 2015, 20:07
The Bf109E had a range of about 400nm on internal tanks, it's 110nm from Abbeville to Tower Bridge, so 220nm return. Add in faff factor, getting into formation, combat power settings etc and you could probably manage five or ten minutes over London I would say.

The 190 wasn't around during the BofB.

tdracer
14th Apr 2015, 21:10
The BoB stories I've read always note that the German fighters had the disadvantage of only having a few minutes over London, while the British obviously didn't have that handicap.
But sniff test says there would had to have been dogfighting over London. Think about it - if the German fighters couldn't make it to London, there would have been little reason to engage them. The British could have simply waited until the German fighters turned back, then attacked the bombers relatively unmolested until the German fighters met them again on the way back. Given the dire need of the British to conserve their air forces, they wouldn't have engaged the German fighters in dog fighting unless it was the only way to get after the bombers.

Sallyann1234
14th Apr 2015, 22:36
Thank you thing and tdracer.
It seems then that there could have been dogfights over London, albeit of very short duration. So the photo may well have been genuine.

Edit. Just found this on a BBC website. It might have been the same incident:

After a preliminary raid on 5 September, the bombing started proper on the afternoon of the 7th. Almost 1,000 German aircraft - over 300 bombers escorted by 600 fighters - crossed the Channel. It was the largest collection of aircraft ever seen. Fighter Command had not expected raids on London, but now attempted to intercept the waves of bombers. A huge dogfight developed over London and the Thames Estuary.

Lonewolf_50
14th Apr 2015, 22:53
Thank you thing and tdracer.
It seems then that there could have been dogfights over London, albeit of very short duration. So the photo may well have been genuine.
The key is that the Germans dumped the chemicals to lighten up for the dogfight. It reduced fuel consumption.
So did the Hurricanes and Spits. :cool:

con-pilot
15th Apr 2015, 00:40
Sallyann1234

I am sorry that was not able to answer your question in a timely manner, as I had to leave to keep a couple of doctors’ appointments and have just now gotten back online.

However, thanks to tdracer and thing your question was correctly answered.

Again I apologize. :O

Sallyann1234
15th Apr 2015, 09:28
No problem!
I trust the appointments were only routine.

CISTRS
9th Jul 2015, 06:56
How the British Government subjected thousands of people to chemical and biological warfare trials during Cold War - UK Politics - UK - The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/how-the-british-government-subjected-thousands-of-people-to-chemical-and-biological-warfare-trials-during-cold-war-10376411.html)