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SMT Member
21st Nov 2014, 08:14
As I'm sure many of you have already learned, a 3-year old girl has been raped in a village in Afghanistan. Words cannot cannot express how I feel about such a despicable act, but besides the obvious there are some other facts which I feel might be worth debating here.

Child rape is a common offense in rural Afghanistan. The result is often that the perpetrator will receive x lashes (80 seems to be a good average) and then let go. He will then resume his normal life, more or less as if nothing had happened.

The girl, however, will have her life ruined. Rape victims are frequently outcasts, with the lucky ones being removed from their families and brought up in shelters. Ironically, if that's the right word, these girls will find themself being offered an education. BBC brings us the story that such a girl, brought up in a shelter following a rape, is now the only girl from her village who can read and write.

Lest we forget, the 'Stan is the place where it's quite common to think women are for abuse and boys are for pleasure. All the while pretending to be deeply religious, of course.

Tell me again, please, why we (as in those of us coming from a country supplying soldiers to the war) are still in Afghanistan? We could stay there for a hundred years, and those backwards barbarians will not change their ways one little bit. Leave them to rot in their arid, festering, sh1t hole of a country I say. Not a single cent in aid; no diplomatic or commercial contacts at all; no telecommunications by line or air; not a single boot on the ground. Any NGO feeling touchy-feely can do so at their own expense and risk, no back-up or support of any kind from .gov. Only exception should be for women, who should actively be offered a chance to evacuate out to an asylum status. That'll leave the 'men' free to bugger each other to eternity, albeit eternity would hopefully not last more than a couple of generations.

The last bit of the message should be 'Call us in 100 years. Oh, right, you can't. Tough shyte Terry Talib, should have thought about that before you decided to be incompatible with civilisation.'

Green Guard
21st Nov 2014, 08:32
Very nasty.
It never happens in our yard.
​Royal household scrutinized in child sex abuse inquiry
http://rt.com/uk/272935-royal-household-sex-inquiry/

SpringHeeledJack
21st Nov 2014, 08:39
Different cultures are at different rates of development and enlightenment, and in general terms to compare things 'there' with 'here' will only end in frustration.No doubt certain practices that the western countries have are abhorred by others. It's one thing to be abusive (however) to others, but for me the abuse/taking advantage of children and elderly persons is the lowest of the low.

In the example in the OP's post, well what can one say about that :confused: That an adult would a) attempt to mate with a human that isn't yet designed for that b) want to inflict both lasting physical and mental trauma onto a probably previously happy optimistic child :ugh::mad:



SHJ

SOPS
21st Nov 2014, 08:57
And this act is enjoyable how?? Words fail me.

goudie
21st Nov 2014, 09:08
Abhorrent as it is, don't be too self-righteous or indignant. It happens in so-called Western Culture as well
Abuse of children in the UK is constantly in the news and it's not all down to
Muslim men either


BBC News - Lostprophets' Ian Watkins guilty of child sex offences (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25108439)

rh200
21st Nov 2014, 09:12
The result is often that the perpetrator will receive x lashes (80 seems to be a good average) and then let go. He will then resume his normal life, more or less as if nothing had happened.

The girl, however, will have her life ruined. Rape victims are frequently outcasts, with the lucky ones being removed from their families and brought up in shelters. Ironically, if that's the right word, these girls will find themself being offered an education.

Surprised she wasn't stoned to death by the village, or stabbed to death by her relatives for being with a unrelated male.

Metro man
21st Nov 2014, 09:51
Luckily she was too young to get pregnant as a result of the rape, then she would have been lashed as punishment.:yuk:

Capetonian
21st Nov 2014, 10:09
Abuse of children in the UK is constantly in the news and it's not all down to Muslim men eitherWell said. I'm glad someone has a sense of proportion. I was discussing the Rotherham events over lunch with a small group of Muslim people with whom I've worked and they were genuinely appalled, horrified, and ashamed.

And this act is enjoyable how?? Words fail me. It's not about enjoyment, it's about power and inflicting suffering, which in a way makes it even more sick and barbaric.

rgbrock1
21st Nov 2014, 12:56
A book I read not too long ago - 'Outlaw Platoon: Heroes, Renegades, Infidels and the Brotherhood of War in Afghanistan' - was penned by a former US Army infantry Office (Ranger) and detailed the various actions this officer's infantry platoon undertook in the 'Stan back a few years.

During one patrol on the eastern border of Afghanistan and Pakistan they came across a village. This village was set high up the side of a mountain. On the road leading to this village they encountered a young Afghani girl who was wandering about in an almost drug-like trance. When the platoon leader and one of his men stepped up to the little girl they noted that she was blind, and her face was badly disfigured. Feeling sorry for the little girl they guided her up the road to her village. (The infantry platoon had an Afghan interpreter embedded within.)

Once at the village one of the elders approached the unit and the officer asked his 'terp to inquire as to what was wrong with the little girl.

Came to find out, the Taliban had been in the area a few days back. Not only had they raped the 9 year old girl but had also cut her eyes out, cut up her face with a knife and then fed her opium, for whatever reason that was.

The platoon's sole mission from that point on was to find the Talibs who had performed this dastardly act and deal with them accordingly. Which they eventually did.

I read that part and was struck by the pure evil and barbarity such an act shows. I just don't get it.

goudie
21st Nov 2014, 13:11
I just don't get it.

RGB The depths of human depravity and cruelty is infinite, sad to say.

History is awash with it

Dushan
21st Nov 2014, 13:15
RGB, I hope when they found them they made them die slowly and painfully, and before anyone says Geneva or Hague

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rgbrock1
21st Nov 2014, 13:22
Dushan:

Nope, no painful and slow death to the human excrement when they finally encountered them. A quick, relatively painless death was inflicted upon them via the barrel of a Ma Deuce aka, .50 cal mounted on their Hummers. (.50 cal does quite the number on humans. More like shredding.)

MagnusP
21st Nov 2014, 13:36
I worked a kiddy porn trial where the youngest victim featured on the laptop was 9 months old. Unspeakable.

rgbrock1
21st Nov 2014, 13:40
MagnusP wrote

I worked a kiddy porn trial where the youngest victim featured on the laptop was 9 months old. Unspeakable.

There are some people walking the earth who just need killing.

Capetonian
21st Nov 2014, 13:47
When I read stuff like this, my support for the death penalty wavers. A humane death of the type that a judicial death penalty would deliver is too quick and too kind for 'people' who abuse children and babies.

Being mauled to death by a wolf?
Thrown into a vat of acid?
Have hands and toes cut off and be left to bleed and rot to death?

rgbrock1
21st Nov 2014, 13:54
Capetonian wrote

Being mauled to death by a wolf?
Thrown into a vat of acid?
Have hands and toes cut off and be left to bleed and rot to death?

Or:

Sent to solitary confinement in prison for the rest of their days. Never able to leave such confinement for one second. Receives enough sustenance to survive but no more than that. Driving them slowly bu surely, insane.

Capetonian
21st Nov 2014, 13:56
That costs money and is a waste of food, water, space, and air.

goudie
21st Nov 2014, 14:48
As I said earlier, man's cruelty to man knows no limits.
I too have similar thoughts regarding the disposal of such garbage.

Shack37
21st Nov 2014, 17:08
And to think there are protests about the execution of that sh1t who raped a girl and buried her alive. Some think it took too long and was too painful.

Ít should have taken a lot longer and been much more painful.

Solid Rust Twotter
21st Nov 2014, 18:06
CT forgets the African belief that sex with a virgin, sometimes as young as six months of age, will cure HIV/AIDS.


Words fcuking fail me...

cockney steve
22nd Nov 2014, 18:34
Driving them slowly bu surely, insane.

Surely they are already insane. Whatever, - they should be put down. They are not ,mentally , civilised humans. It is not a civilised act to keep them alive within a civilised society. dispatch them quickly and humanely, as with all vermin.

mikedreamer787
23rd Nov 2014, 05:49
There are some people walking the earth who just need killing.

I understand RGB there are some parts in
the Deep South where that's a justifyable
court defence and so it bloody well should
be.

Ít should have taken a lot longer and been much more painful.


Can't blame you Mr 37, but if you inflict a
horrible painful execution all you're doing
I think is lowering yourself to the level of
the perps. Better to blow 'em away with a
50 cal shredder and be done with it.

crewmeal
23rd Nov 2014, 07:03
There was a Channel 4 movie about bringing back hanging for child abuse in the UK and featured 'Gary Glitter'

Gary Glitter 'Executed' In Channel 4 Film (http://news.sky.com/story/734439/gary-glitter-executed-in-channel-4-film)

What a shame it wasn't for real. (You can view the movie on YouTube)

Capetonian
23rd Nov 2014, 07:14
I'd rather not view the movie, thanks all the same.

There is a difference between GG and someone who rapes a toddler. GG had sex with teenage (or pre-teenage) girls who were probably already sexually active, who were taken to him by their families to get money, and there was a degree of consent.

I am in no way defending GG, he broke laws and acted immorally, but surely any reasonable person can see the difference between what he did and raping a baby.

crewmeal
23rd Nov 2014, 07:24
Well yes you're right Capetonian, but whether the heinous crime is against a baby or a toddler the penalty should be the same. Rotherham and others come to mind.

Why some Asian Muslims think that abuse of any nature is right is beyond comprehension. Yet again weak justice won't deter these vile people.

Effluent Man
23rd Nov 2014, 09:16
Paedophilia covers a very wide range (As indeed does rape) and it is unhelpful to lump every case together.An employee of a friend of mine who owns a coach firm drove a school bus.He had a brief affair with a 15 year old but felt so guilty he ended it.She then reported him in a fit of pique because he would not carry on and he got jailed.

unstable load
23rd Nov 2014, 13:25
CT forgets the African belief that sex with a virgin, sometimes as young as six months of age, will cure HIV/AIDS.
Well, the younger they are, the better chance they will still be Hymen Intacta.... Then factor in the harvesting of body parts for muti, just in case the sneaky little minx wasn't a virgin, you know.....:mad:

Mechta
23rd Nov 2014, 17:27
Why some Asian Muslims think that abuse of any nature is right is beyond comprehension. Yet again weak justice won't deter these vile people.

Part of the problem seems to be the veneration of young males in some third world cultures, which generates in them such a belief of self-importance that they believe themselves to be above the law, or at least able to do absolutely what they like, relying on rich or influential relatives to bail them out should they get caught.

They know that the girls of their own social group are off-limits, so they regard western girls, children to young to talk and animals all as suitable outlets for their uncontrollable sexual urges.