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Raine Emerson
16th Nov 2014, 06:12
They say that having numerous short-lived jobs is not pleasant for your resume, what are your views about that? How about staying at the same company for a very long time how long is too long to stay at any one job?

probes
16th Nov 2014, 06:20
when you get totally bored? :E

perantau
16th Nov 2014, 06:30
Had a few short-lived non-aviation gigs before landing a flying job right seat. Stayed with the same company for 5-6 years left seat before moving on to other pastures.

Didn't adversely affect my resume, me thinks.

SpringHeeledJack
16th Nov 2014, 06:40
It all depends on the nature of the job, what is the industry norm. It used to be seen as valuable to be safe, steady, committed in a career, nowadays the new normal is 2-4 years and move on to bigger/better things or else be seen as not ambitious/flexible enough. Things have changed and I'm not sure if that's good or bad.


SHJ

Effluent Man
16th Nov 2014, 07:02
Don't know about long.I had on that lasted precisely 5 hours.

Flyer70
16th Nov 2014, 08:45
My wife who worked in the local chemist, worked with a lady who started there aged 14 and retired at 84. A total of 70 years in the same job.

Capetonian
16th Nov 2014, 08:53
It's a cultural thing, for example the Japanese tend to join a company and stay their for their entire professional career.

I suppose that if each change of employment shows a positive career move on a c.v, then it can't be held against one. If it's simply drifting from one mediocre job to another without a valid reason, then it looks very poor.

I had a job for one morning, and another for two days. My choice.

probes
16th Nov 2014, 09:12
:) is it possible to specify in a public forum?

Hydromet
16th Nov 2014, 09:20
is it possible to specify in a public forum?
Jobs, Probes, jobs.

Blues&twos
16th Nov 2014, 09:33
I would think it depends on your reasons/motivation for staying in or leaving a job. I had a number of short term jobs after graduation, some of them related to my qualifications, some of them completely unrelated. This was received positively by new employers at the time as it suggested I was keen to be in work, and could turn my hand to most things. Presumably if I consistently only stayed in a job for a short time, it would start to ring alarm bells. I've been with my current employer for 20 years, in various roles. I enjoy the work, the pay's not bad, the conditions are good, I get a decent amount of paid time off. The canteen's over-priced, but you can't have everything.

Shaggy Sheep Driver
16th Nov 2014, 09:48
Probably different today but there came a time in my career when I had to consider my pension. Moving jobs has a very adverse effect on what you get when you retire. I started with a year in completely the wrong job, then ten years split between two IT companies before going into project management with a software house at age 30. I stayed there until I retired, though by then we'd been through several take overs so it was far from the same company.

The final take over was by a massive US IT services company, whose culture was not to my taste. However, by then I was too old to move in the 'ageist' IT industry, and it would have scuppered my pension to do so. So I stuck it out until early retirement was offered a few years ago. Glad I did!

603DX
16th Nov 2014, 10:19
My first job after university lasted three years, with a local government engineering office. I learnt about the practical side of how to make use of the mass of technical bumpf that the degree course had instilled. And that initial creep up the learning curve also taught me that my keenest enthusiasm was not for municipal engineering, which by its nature can be highly localised and maintenance-centred. So I resigned, leaving on good terms with my colleagues, and moved to a design position with a small but very busy and growing firm of consulting engineers in London.

I took to that job immediately, the two partners were skilled and very likeable individuals, whom I got on with well. A gratifying atmosphere of mutual respect developed, and I was given early responsibility on jobs I found fascinating. The years simply flew by, as I enjoyed a heady mixture of design jobs for major clients, several site supervision appointments, and widely varied construction projects throughout the UK and overseas. In short, by happy chance I had found my absolutely ideal job quite early in my career, and there was no way I was going to get the "itchy feet" that some people get, just to obtain a bit more money or status. In any event, I was promoted several times, with commensurate rises in salary, so the feelings of mutual respect that I had experienced within the firm were also supported by material rewards. I felt valued, and that is beyond price.

Not surprisingly perhaps, that second job lasted for 40 blissful years. So am I typical? Of course not! How long is too long? I simply wouldn't know ... ;)

west lakes
16th Nov 2014, 10:32
41 years in the same job in August last. A colleague has just reached 50 years.
Do either of us have any regrets, well no.

cattletruck
16th Nov 2014, 10:37
I left one job after we were outsourced and I didn't want to work for that outsourcer for lesser conditions and become the prime fetish for a ministerial bully.

I left another job after a team member was murdered.

I walked out of one job with a crappy company without notice and walked straight into another (I was poached).

I had a manager who ran a phone tapping company on the side give my job to his mate so that he could grow his own company. The spooks made it look like a resignation.

I lost my job when a HR Manager falsified evidence about me - I still feel it was payback for having gotten too close to some knowledge of a kiddy fiddler network.

Sadly in corporate @rse-lick culture one can't really put any of this on the resume.

Gertrude the Wombat
16th Nov 2014, 11:24
They say that having numerous short-lived jobs is not pleasant for your resume, what are your views about that? How about staying at the same company for a very long time how long is too long to stay at any one job?
Depends on the company.

When I worked for a young dynamic techie company in the 1980s we'd get people coming to us with large bureaucratic dinosaur companies on their CVs.

If they'd been there six months we'd think "ok, anyone can make a mistake, now he's seen the light and is looking for a job with a civilised company". Interviewed.

If they'd been there five years we'd think "this is a person stuck in a rut who is only looking to move because they're not getting promoted ... which is probably because they're useless, even by the standards of the large bureaucratic dinosaur company". No interview.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
16th Nov 2014, 12:09
Sadly in corporate @rse-lick culture one can't really put any of this on the resume.

I would like to put the truth.

I am highly accomplished, very intelligent and completely honest.

But this (correctly) translates to HR/boss as:
Your job is personally at risk because I'm better than you; I will discover everything illegal, incompetent and dangerous you do, and I will not shut up about it.

Result: No interview.

CISTRS
16th Nov 2014, 13:04
There have been a few expat or project related jobs.
Given that, average length of "permanent" employment has been about seven years, before achieving maturity.
I now work for myself, if and when I want, and interview potential clients critically. Short term project related work only, with strictly defined terms of reference.

radeng
16th Nov 2014, 13:08
From 1969 to 1979, I had 7 employers, a period of unemployment and a period of self employment. I was then in the same company for 32 years, although it changed ownership and name 4 times. I also had 19 managers, of whom only three left of their own accord - some 'resigned' but it was because generally speaking, their faces didn't fit and some told senior management the truth. One lasted for a very long time after a conviction for gross indecency with two other men in a public lavatory, followed 18 months later with drunk driving conviction in a company car - usually a dismissable offence.....the sort of manager you can look up to! After being made redundant because the UK company was closing, I contracted for the US company for 2 years.....and then retired to reduce income to avoid paying high rate income tax. When the government gets 49% of the pay you get every day you work, it's not worth working.

Interestingly, that's over 80,000 a year not coming into the UK just because I retired.....

Gertrude the Wombat
16th Nov 2014, 15:32
When the government gets 49% of the pay you get every day ...
... it's time to look at other ways of getting money out of your company.

radeng
16th Nov 2014, 16:01
I didn't want the hassle of setting up LLC at my age when I intended to retire at the time I actually did. I might have gone on a bit longer if the tax hadn't been such a pain, but certainly not more than a year.

Plus I was getting more and more irritated with airport security queues and belt removal and shoe removal and hanging around airports - I did 46 flights in the 6 months before retirement....

Solid Rust Twotter
16th Nov 2014, 18:08
Fought in a couple of wars, then a couple of dead end jobs before going to the Antarctic for a year. Came back, got into IT which came close to turning me into a serial killer, quit and started out as a loadmaster with a PPL before promotion to right seat, then left seat in a few companies before landing where I am now. Love what I do. Been with the company in a couple of iterations for eight years, going on nine. Wouldn't change it for the world.

LordGrumpy
17th Nov 2014, 04:40
So there are many factors.
Is job easy to get to?
Are your conditions satisfactory?
Is the employee a risk taker to change from known to unknown?
How good are you at not reacting: when it won't get a change.
Does the pilot like the uphill challenge of a mud runway?

In this written discussion. The noun Safety: appears to be appropriate.

ExSp33db1rd
17th Nov 2014, 04:41
I wish I still had a job.

At least I'd get one day off a week !

MagnusP
17th Nov 2014, 10:05
First "real" job - 2 years. Left when I saw an ad for another job saying "must be prepared to work in Hawai`i". 28 years in that job, but several promotions and training/study opportunities saw me move from electronics to software to project management to programme management, so not really the same job, I suppose. Current employer - 8 years, promoted twice, again to new duties. When I eventually retire in a few months, I'm fairly sure MrsP will have a new job for me every day. :p