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they call me sam
16th Oct 2014, 05:56
Hi all :)

Does anybody know the salary for air new Zealand first officers and captains on their Boeing 777's or their Boeing 787's. If you know other salary for different aircraft, it would still be much wanted!

Thankyou

minimum_wage
16th Oct 2014, 21:10
Why do you want this? Looks like you have quite a few years before this would be remotely relevant.
Not sure if people are going to post this information, but if someone did the pay structure is scaled dependant on time employed and aircraft variant numbers.

27/09
16th Oct 2014, 21:21
If you're thinking of getting a job with them you might want ask about second officer salaries as that's the entry point to Air NZ mainline and right now so far as I know they're only taking pilots from their turbo prop groups.

So if it's a job you're after you need to be asking about turbo prop salaries.

grrowler
16th Oct 2014, 22:20
Not sure why people get so precious about posting a publicly available figure. A quick google shows up a bunch of figures that look about right.

minimum_wage
16th Oct 2014, 22:43
grrowler you could post it on here for those interested if you have that information.

Lapon
17th Oct 2014, 02:24
http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/448354-australian-airline-wages-compilation-11.html


NZD$142,100 on the 7 apparently.

grrowler
17th Oct 2014, 02:43
777 Capt 249606-283643 FO 142247-181957 (Year 1 - Year 12)

Disclaimer: Taken from first website that popped up in Google search, I have no idea how current they are)

27/09
17th Oct 2014, 08:47
grrowlerNot sure why people get so precious about posting a publicly available figure.
My point being the OP would appear to be a newbie starting out and FO salaries are irrelevant as they are not where a new person starts out in Air NZ.

they call me sam
17th Oct 2014, 09:24
see, your the only one who knows what happening, year 11 engineering assignment on the Airlines and the money in the industry and we had to pick an airline to focus on and I picked ANZ

framer
17th Oct 2014, 10:00
Or he could be a C182 jump pilot looking to the future and imagining ' what could be' while trying to keep his chin up. Either way posting the figures here doesn't matter a jot.

27/09
17th Oct 2014, 22:10
see, your the only one who knows what happening, year 11 engineering assignment on the Airlines and the money in the industry and we had to pick an airline to focus on and I picked ANZ

Fair comment, but since you're looking at money in the industry for a bit of balance rather than pick on the high end of the FO salary range you should also look at the starting salary of a ANZ turbo prop FO. I don't know the exact figure but understand it's about $42,000.

framer
18th Oct 2014, 00:30
And if you're going to start at F/O Air NZ Link level, you might as well mention the 3 - 5 years flying parachutes or scenic tours around White Island or Whale watching or delivering people to and from Great Barrier Island that will be required before you get the turbo prop f/O job.
Year 1- Borrow $100k and get a commercial licence and MEiR
Year 2- drop parachutes and earn about $20k total, ( spend 10k on rent and 8k on beer, 2 k left for food)
Year3- scenic tours for $15k
Year4- charter work with some multi IF for 32k
Year 5- hit the big time as a B1900 f/o for AirNZ Link on about 42k
Year8- command on the B1900 on about $60k
Year 10- Air NZ 2nd Officer on about $110k
Year 16- Air NZ first officer on 777 ....yay.....you're now mid thirties and all your mates who did normal degrees are worth about half a million more than you:)

ad-astra
18th Oct 2014, 00:55
FFS,

The kid asked a simple enough question and he is getting a lecture on the meaning of life.

What on earth is the problem with answering the question if you have the info and moving on if you don't.

minimum_wage
18th Oct 2014, 02:07
Framer I think you will find it will take more than 6 years from s/o to f/o on 777, try 10. Could always change...

27/09
18th Oct 2014, 02:24
ad-astraFFS,

The kid asked a simple enough question and he is getting a lecture on the meaning of life.

What on earth is the problem with answering the question if you have the info and moving on if you don't.

Yes, he did.

He/she did come back and say he/she was doing an engineering assignment on airlines and money in the industry. Also in his/her first post he/she also said other salaries would be useful.

The fact he's/she's come to PPRUNE indicates the likely hood that this person has little in the way of aviation background to draw any information from. That also tells me they may (note I say may) not have a good understanding of how a pilot's career progresses.

Some people seem to think the only commercial pilots are those that fly the heavy iron. I gave up counting the number of times I had been asked as an instructor/charter pilot if I had ever flown commercially (read heavy iron airline pilot) or intended to fly commercially. FFS? I used to try and educate the enquirer as to what a commercial pilot was in the end I bit my tongue and smiled nicely. :ugh:

I don't know what level of understanding "They Call Me Sam" has, however it's not helping his/her assignment if he/she goes way thinking a brand spanking new pilot starts as an FO on the 777 on $142,000, when the reality is very different from this.

I think some on here have tried to paint a realistic picture of the Airlines and the money in the industry.

27/09
18th Oct 2014, 02:52
you're thrice divorced In other words a 12.5 percenter

Sam Ting Wong
18th Oct 2014, 03:43
What big bucks???

The times pilots had to be embarrassed about their salary are long gone, looks like it especially in NZ.
If these figures are even before tax then actually one could be embarrassed for the opposite reason...

kev2002
18th Oct 2014, 04:06
Firstly, the numbers are not current. The first year rates are irrelevant. Most new hires will go to Year 4 after serving one year. Additionally, FOs on the wide body fleets will generally start on Year 8. With allowances and incentives its comfortable and you don't have to live in a @#&*hole.

In agreement with previous posters with regards to painting a realistic picture though.

flybywired
19th Oct 2014, 07:47
Can anyone give a realistic current progression timeline for Airnz? Ie. how long from S/O to A320 F/O, to 787/777 F/O, to A320 CPT, to 787/777 CPT? I know
Things have changed recently with fleet changes and age limits, but is it still 15 years to the RH seat of a 777, and 25 before a command?

50 50
20th Oct 2014, 20:12
They call me Sam, perhaps you could include in your statistics number of replies vs. number of pretentious wankers, as a percentage.

Raropilot
23rd Oct 2014, 00:09
50/50 that is the best reply in this thread so far! :D

flybywired
29th Oct 2014, 09:37
Does anyone have any info regarding the current situation at AirNZ ie. movement, hiring, progression. It has been said that only internal (AirNZ regional pilots) applicants will be offered interviews for the foreseeable future (2+ years)? I was short listed last year(external applicant) but have now been told unlikely to interview for some time? I am trying to weigh up the pros and cons for AirNZ (when/if they recruit external pilots) vs contract flying around Asia or the ME. I am in my mid 30s with a fair amount of wide body F/O time and keen to spend the rest of my time based back in NZ (done my time offshore and now have a young family ) , but also wary of how long it could take to get an interview at AirNZ, and the time taken to get back into the Right seat of a widebody. Any info or advice is much appreciated. Cheers

semperfubar
2nd Jun 2016, 15:28
Air New Zealand pilot jobs news for airline pilots and aviation schools (http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/jobs/Air_New_Zealand)

The Green Goblin
7th Jun 2016, 01:51
They pay a sux figure salary :)

mattyj
7th Jun 2016, 02:40
S'pose it's better in Aus where you get a sex figure salary

The Green Goblin
7th Jun 2016, 06:22
No, it's six figures as per the queens English :)

framer
7th Jun 2016, 07:40
I don't know that we Ausi's are renowned for our 'Queens English ' lol

haughtney1
7th Jun 2016, 11:09
I don't know that we Ausi's are renowned for our 'Queens English ' lol

The only thing Queen related Oz is famous for, had a name called Priscilla....

RadioSaigon
7th Jun 2016, 11:25
The only thing Queen related Oz is famous for...

...extending personal invitations to attend the West Island to a Huge number of their forbears?

;-)