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nuclear weapon
23rd Sep 2014, 16:54
Hi guys! I might be getting a job soon with a biz jet operator (Embraer phenom 300). I hold both a UK atpl to be converted to EASA next month and an icao atpl. The company is planning to use a facility in Dallas that presumably only does FAA type ratings for the aircraft, but someone told me they've actually booked an FAA course. How do I get the type endorsed on my EASA licence at a later date? My other questions are as follows:

1) Do I get them to upgrade the course to an EASA/FAA type rating instead of just FAA?
2) Convert my UK atpl to FAA by doing the exams and the ATP checkride as part of the final checkride in the sim?
3) If the suggestion is number two above, what is the procedure for getting a UK validation to fly the aircraft on an FAA licence considering the fact that I hold a UK atpl already.
Thanks

JuicyLucy
23rd Sep 2014, 20:49
At least one of the Dallas providers does EASA type ratings.
What country is the 300 registered in?

Proline21
23rd Sep 2014, 21:06
I personally know three JAA/EASA guys from Germany who went to Dallas for the Phenom 300 Initial with CAE and all got their TR issued the proper way regards to EASA rules, no worries there!

Regards to the FAA ATP checkride make sure you clear that first with them and have your FAA ATPL theory exams passed before going there.

nuclear weapon
23rd Sep 2014, 22:13
The aircraft is M registration. Thanks for the reply as I have been briefed by the person in charge as to way forward and they are working on making the necessary changes.

dirk85
23rd Sep 2014, 22:37
No way to get a FAA ATP with the new rules in force since August this year.
The trick was to make the written before that date, but now you need to do an FAA-approved Airline Transport Pilot Certification Training Program, as they call it.

They talk about it in the North America section of this forum.

The only viable way is the 1), but you need to make sure the TR course is EASA approved (sim, examiner, etc). It is not uncommon that they are, just call the training provider.

You most likely need the base training on the plane with an EASA TRI as well.

maxed-out
24th Sep 2014, 09:44
.....and the a/c you're doing the base training on, is EU-registered!

BizJetJock
24th Sep 2014, 16:40
and the a/c you're doing the base training on, is EU-registered!
That is not a requirement as long as the TRI is also able to instruct under the rules of the state of registry. For M reg that is not an issue as the licence validation to fly that aircraft also validates the TRI. I have done several sets of landings on M reg aircraft.