Threads that vanish

[Gilles Hudicourt]

I posted something yesterday about a book written in the sixties, about the 1961 Bay of pigs invasion, and asking if anyone knew the real names of the pilots aliases that were used in the book.

The post was deleted along with some others, no explanation provided.

[thegypsy]

Perhaps the originator of that Thread deleted it thinking better of it?

[DaveReidUK]

Perhaps the originator of that Thread deleted it thinking better of it?

And then Gilles forgot that he'd done so ? :ugh:

[Gilles Hudicourt]

I didn't delete a thread I started, someone with authority to do it deleted it, but won't indentify him or herself and won't say why.

Here is the post in question as cached by Google:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:E4H-B01xIcMJ:www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-547294.html+&cd=5&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Albert C. Persons was an American C-54 pilot who flew support mission for the CIA while they were preparing what was to be known as the Bay of Pigs invasion. Although he did not participate in any combat operations, he was a first hand witness, for he was present at the Puerto Cabezas base (Happy Valley) in Nicaragua from where the Brigade 2506's invasion fleet sailed and from where the Brigade's B-26 bombers attacked Cuba.
Persons was also a journalist and he ran a newspaper, so he knew how to write and his book is very well written.

It has one major flaw. Because most of this subject was still classified at the time Persons wrote it, the author used the CIA or other aliases for most of the books characters instead of using their real names.

All this story has since been declassified by the CIA in 2011 and I was able to find the names of most of the main characters in this book, but the real identity of many of his books' characters are still a mystery to me.

If anyone recognizes himself in this book, or a relative, or a friend, and you can provide the real identity of the person, please do so here.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

Al, CIA men, Persons p. 10
Al Walters, B-26 pilot Persons p9, p54
Bill Peterson, B-26 pilot Persons page 9
Burt, Persons, p 103 CIA man in Happy Valley
Don Gordon, Persons Page 2, 28, 45 tc
Earl Carter, Persons, p. 10
Eric, Air Force Major, Persons, p. 30
Ernie King, C-54 pilot, Persons p. 9
Ferd Dutton, maybe was Robert Harrington, Navigator, Persons, p.32
Frank, probably Frank Eagan, Persons p. 10
Fred Ealey, C-54 pilot Persons, p. 9
Gordon Neilson, C-54 pilot, Persons p. 9, 23, 24 etc
Hal McGee was Joseph L Shannon, Lt-Col AANG 117th Wing Persons page 8
Hoyt, CIA man, Persons p. 10
Jack Vernon, Radio Operator, Persons, p. 10
Jake, CIA man, Persons p. 10
Joe Hinkle, B-26 pilot Persons page 9, p.54
Larry was probably Garfield M. Thorsrud
Les, C-54 FE, USN, Persons p. 31, 32
Mac, C-54 instructor, USAF, Persons p. 31, 32
Nick, Lt-Commandrr, USN, Persons, p. 39
Pete, was Pete Ray, B-26 pilot, Persons, p 9
Phil Chapman, C-54 pilot in Persons,
Ray, C-54 pilot instructor, Persons, p. 31
Red Cornish, C-54 Flight Engineer, Persons, p. 9
Reid, was George Reid Doster, Maj. Gen. Albama Air National Guard
Riley, was Riley Shamburger, B-26 instructor, AANG pilot
Ron Smith, B-26 pilot, also T-33 pilot, Persons p 9, 10
Sandy Sanders, C-54 Flight Engineer, Crew Chief, Persons, p. 9
Sieg Simpson was Connie Siegrist
Vic, was perhaps Doug Price in Albert C. Persons

[PPRuNe Pop]

You will find that posts are deleted if they infringe PPRuNe rules. They are to be see on the first page that opens when PPRuNe opens.


No ads is way ahead of the others. People who want to advertise on the site must do so by paying the owners a fee. You can get a quote to do that.

[4Greens]

Put a post in asking about the Air France pilots strike. It had disappeared a couple of hours later. Its in the news so why not PPrune ? Perhaps the Mods could comment.

[Airclues]

Put a post in asking about the Air France pilots strike. It had disappeared a couple of hours later. Its in the news so why not PPRuNe ? Perhaps the Mods could comment.

4Greens

Do you mean this one?

http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearment/548022-air-france-pilots-strike.html#post8669791

[4Greens]

Absolutely. Terms of 'endearment' was off my radar. As an aside it doesn't seem relevant.

Thanks.

[Airclues]

From the forum title;

Your news on pay, rostering, allowances, extras and negotiations where you work - scheduled, charter or contract.

A strike over terms and conditions seems relevant to me.

[IBMJunkman]

Gilles,

When I 'lose' one of my messages I use the Advanced Search function and look for posts posted by my username. I recently lost one and found the mods had moved it to another section.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

You will find that posts are deleted if they infringe PPRuNe rules. They are to be see on the first page that opens when PPRuNe opens.

No ads is way ahead of the others. People who want to advertise on the site must do so by paying the owners a fee. You can get a quote to do that.

Here is exactly the post I made that was deleted:

Albert C. Persons was an American C-54 pilot who flew support mission for the CIA while they were preparing what was to be known as the Bay of Pigs invasion. Although he did not participate in any combat operations, he was a first hand witness, for he was present at the Puerto Cabezas base (Happy Valley) in Nicaragua from where the Brigade 2506's invasion fleet sailed and from where the Brigade's B-26 bombers attacked Cuba.
Persons was also a journalist and he ran a newspaper, so he knew how to write and his book is very well written.

It has one major flaw. Because most of this subject was still classified at the time Persons wrote it, the author used the CIA or other aliases for most of the books characters instead of using their real names.

All this story has since been declassified by the CIA in 2011 and I was able to find the names of most of the main characters in this book, but the real identity of many of his books' characters are still a mystery to me.

If anyone recognizes himself in this book, or a relative, or a friend, and you can provide the real identity of the person, please do so here.

I would really be curious to know what Pprune rules it infringed. Also, as you can seem it contained no ads.......

The title of the thread was : "The book "Bay of Pigs" by Albert C. Persons"

So Pprune Deleted it because it was considered unpaid advertisement for the book ? It that it ?

The author has passed away and I do not know who gets royalties for the book, but it isn't me.