First Embraer E190 for Cobham Aviation

[tintintin]

Looks like Cobham has his first E190 and a new livery. Came across this
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3868/14918539508_e1547f7ee1_t.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oJiq3q)

[TWOTBAGS]

Replacement for the 146/RJ100 in the short term, and positioning themselves for the renewal of the QLink717 fleet in a few years.

Embraer must be happy as it will now put the E2 as the firming leader for this order, given that Cseries is further delayed.

However given QF's fleet planing history..... some Einstein will probably select the SJ100 or ARJ21 are just fabulous for the refleeting.....:}

[WagnerPrincipal]

I agree with one of the above posts, great marketing and use of photoshop. Nice looking aircraft though, but could it replace 717's or compliment the fleet on long thin routes?

[EchoNovemberTango]

Paint scheme looks a little familiar to me.....


Photos: Embraer ERJ-190-100LR 190LR Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/SkyAirWorld/Embraer-ERJ-190-100LR-190LR/1501659/L/&sid=e7e0459d4e2e13189ca1c0817fb35356)

[ASY68]

With the rego in the picture, it appears to be former Augsberg Airways - D-AEMG.

[Capn Bloggs]

From the jungle! :}

[2020Balance]

Watch this space tomorrow

[myshoutcaptain]

Embraer ERJ-190LR (VH-NJA) Aircraft Pictures & Photos - AirTeamImages.com (http://www.airteamimages.com/embraer-erj-190_VH-NJA_cobham-aviation-services_206495.html)
http://www.airteamimages.com/embraer-erj-190_VH-NJA_cobham-aviation-services_206495.html

New livery and first E190 for Australian Cobham Aviation - Former Augsburg D-AEMG after a paintjob by MAAS Aviation Services

[Capn Bloggs]

Where's the sperm?! :{

[scrubba]

Where's the sperm?:{

Different corporate DNA, n'est ce pas?

[notop]

Cobham is bigger then just Australia

[Icarus2001]

Aviation Photos - -2 - JetPhotos.Net Aviation Photos (http://jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?aircraft=Embraer+190&airline=Cobham+Aviation+Services+Australia&country=-2&photog=-2&category=-2&year=-2&keywordrange=all&keywordlimiter=2&keywords=&sort=1&genre=1&size=-2&mainsearch=search&displaymode=1&display=15)

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7881341&nseq=0

Looks real to me.

[Icarus2001]

Watch this space tomorrow

So tomorrow is here.:sad:

[Capt Claret]

Barrow Isl. :ok:

[Village Idiot1]

What does the Cobham fleet consist of now?
16 x 146/Rj's
18 x B717's
12 x DHC8's
1 x E190 probably reasonable to suspect more to come at some stage
Anything else?

[Capt Claret]

Anything else?

A swag of DH8 with Surveillance and in PNG, not to mention the assets in the UK & elsewhere, including choppers.

[Spinnerhead]

Wow - Choppers!!!!

[Icarus2001]

16 x 146/Rj's
18 x B717's
12 x DHC8's

Qantas may have something to say about the B717s being part of the Cobham fleet.

Amazing what can be done with Photoshop software! ��

You may want to put some sauce on that humble pie.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/cobham-e190-steps-on-the-gas/story-e6frg95x-1227048051282?nk=86ac4918d8cf37419f7b1c3a6542dbad

[WagnerPrincipal]

Pie eaten. Guess I am too cynical.

[Blueskymine]

But the 146 crew won't be able to tell everyone they are four engine jet pilots now? :)

[0tto]

But the 146 crew won't be able to tell everyone they are four engine jet pilots now?

They'll be the only four engine jet pilots in Australia in the coming years...:sad:

[Snakecharma]

It is a terrific little jet, the Cobham guys/gals will enjoy flying it.

Much better than the Scruggs wonder jet!

[MyNameIsIs]

146 a Jet?

ha! Its all fan. And no reverse.

Give me some Jt8 goodness with clamshells any day over a quadrapuff!

But to keep it on topic, what are the plans for the Embryo? I have heard Barrow Island, but why?

[Agent86]

Perth to Barrow charter
Australian Aviation (http://australianaviation.com.au/2014/09/cobham-wins-contract-extension-with-chevron-and-plans-to-introduce-e190/)

[airdualbleedfault]

So just the one? Then I guess only a select few will be endorsed and everyone else can admire from the cockpit of the gas chamber.
Nice article in Australian Aviation although I'm pretty sure Cobham/National Jet have been flying to Barrow for well over a decade

[Jack Ranga]

How come you doods keep posting links to articles that need a subscription to access?

[TWT]

It's a conspiracy to stop you from reading them,of course !

[Jack Ranga]

mmmmm, ok, might think about that for a bit. Don't want to get a complex :cool:

[Jack Ranga]

Or a simplex, don't want that either :ok:

[RENURPP]

How come you doods keep posting links to articles that need a subscription to access?
:confused::confused::confused::confused:I don't have a subscription however I do have access, so there must be some form of conspiracy???

[Berealgetreal]

I've always been told that these mining contracts are so lean that you could never make money on them with the likes of an Eject. Hence the prevalence of cheap old F-100s 146s.

So how does Cobham do it yet others can't? Sounds like they're a pretty organised outfit they're running there.

[4dogs]

I've always been told that these mining contracts are so lean that you could never make money on them with the likes of an Eject.

If the cost of providing certain infrastructure, particularly where there are severe environmental constraints, outweighs the cost of running a particular type of aircraft, the contract will be written accordingly. The margin will still be skinny in the buyer's market that is FIFO. :sad:

If an E-jet was the preferred aircraft (which is rumoured to be the case), then Cobham would have to absorb the cost of adding the type to the AOC plus the inherent costs attributable to diseconomies of scale, a distinct competitive disadvantage compared with Virgin and Airnorth. Certainly, Airnorth would seem likely to benefit from the fleet addition and the attendant business expansion while having nowhere near the overheads of Cobham, so the floor must have been strewn with pencil shavings... :E

Stay Alive,

[neville_nobody]

So how does Cobham do it yet others can't?

Or they're making zero money on it but at least they fend off Virgin and now have a presence in the market with a new flash jet.

Mining contract work is a bit of a chess game. The miners will play everybody off each other differently to get what they want.

[AerocatS2A]

Unlike National Jet, Cobham have never been in the business of tendering for contracts that don't earn a return for their shareholders. If they started now it would be a major change in philosophy for them.

[scrubba]

AerocatS2A, that's a big call! But then, I guess cost plus $1 would meet that criterion :E

[Icarus2001]

So many comments based on so little real knowledge or information.

Do some research...Cobham plc ? Reports and Presentations Archive (http://www.cobhaminvestors.com/reports-and-presentations/2014.aspx#2014)

Most fleets start as one aircraft. I believe they will have more by the end of 2015.

[Capn Bloggs]

You should apply, Iccy. Join the boys on the BIG ones. :E

[Prince Niccolo M]

Icarus,

I'll play! What does the linked presentation tell me about the contract on which the E190 is to be employed? :confused:

[Agent86]

Your highness.
If you look deeper into the cobham site you will find this

http://www.cobham.com/about-cobham/mission-systems/about-us/aviation-services/media/news/contract-extension-introduces-next-generation-charter-aircraft.aspx

The first aircraft is always the hardest to get. Everything after that is incrementally easier, but also dependent on contracts.

[Capn Bloggs]

The BIG question is...does it have Cost index?? :}

[Snakecharma]

no :( no cost index. Words added to meet the minimum

[Capt Claret]

Hey Bloggsie, are you considering heading over to the dark side? :oh:

[Capn Bloggs]

"NJA, will be able to make your JULIM time, ATC estimates have you 7 minutes late!" :} :}

Could be a job for you, Clarrie. You get more miles out of a tankfull! :ok:

[Snakecharma]

No RTA either!

[Captain Biggles84]

Hear there could be some VA E190 guys that might look at gig given their Perth base is about to be shut.

[The Banjo]

Bloggs,

You don't carry enough fuel to be fussed about cost indexes :p

[RENURPP]

Hear there could be some VA E190 guys that might look at gig given their Perth base is about to be shut.Looking is free

[Blitzkrieger]

"Qantas may have something to say about the B717s being part of the Cobham fleet"


And they will. Next seven are going to Network ;)

[Going Nowhere]

I thought all the 717's in the world were spoken for?

[0tto]

Next seven are going to Network

When did they make this order?

[blumoon]

I thought network were getting the 12 Cseries not B717's?... Can't see why Q would want two different B717 operations 😏

😎

[VC9]

Maybe the B717 operation would be set up and operated the way the aircraft was designed rather than attempts to make it like a 146 and even worse, an Ansett 146.

[Ret Sabala]

Oh meoooww VC9

[R.Cruizo]

Network's sole B717 rated check captain resigned and joined Cobham. The 5 717 's also rumoured for Easterns
mysteriously ended up at Cobham.

[Pindan warrior]

dear wayne kerr's, can we get back to the thread please, would be nice to know if anyone knows anything about how many E190's are on their way to Cobham.

[SOPS]

VC 9 there is form there. The MMA F28s I flew, and loved flying, where configured to try and look like a DC9. Why that happened is another story.

[greybeard]

Hey SOPS, they were the only ones in the world like it and had to be "reverted" when they were sold to mainly Canada.

The French company had 36 of them, all sizes and shapes, made our ops look a bit thin, although we were "Worlds best operator".

Alice Springs go around still the thing of bad dreams.

Best fun aircraft of its time.

owyergoinmateorrite?

:ok:

[airdualbleedfault]

Not thatit matters CCruizo but your mail is incorrect, there are at least 2 717 rated pilots still at Notwork.
More importantly there's over a dozen A320 rated pilots

[Icarus2001]

can we get back to the thread please, would be nice to know if anyone knows anything about how many E190's are on their way to Cobham.
The refueller spoke to a stores guy who is going out with the sister of a cleaner at Cobham. She reckons that initially one airframe, followed later in the year by a second, both for Chevron on the BWX contract. After that it will depend on contracts won and then simply lease more airframes. As the cleaner explained to her sister, all the pain and expense is in getting the first aircraft on the AOC and crewed up, engineers trained etc. After that it is simply a matter of scaling.

Apparently.:hmm:

[Biggles1159]

For all the doubters, the E190 arrived in Adelaide over the weekend, so no Photoshop.

[Capn Bloggs]

Onya biggles! :D

[onehitwonder]

How are the boys going with this?

[onehitwonder]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/adriancourt/15601899717

[Courtman]

So this is where the hits on the arrival picture are from! Thanks for looking at the shots, the aircraft departed Cranfield this morning bound for Tirana and then Luxor enroute to Australia!

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8566/15864740076_d655df32ab_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qaUWvj)
Rotate (https://flic.kr/p/qaUWvj) by Adrian Court (https://www.flickr.com/people/44948268@N02/), on Flickr

After 10 years here you'd have thought I'd have gotten the idea of where to stand for a rotate shot, but once again I got on the wrong side of the aeroplane...one day...!

[Capn Bloggs]

Flap 18!! :eek: Tut tut! :}

[AerocatS2A]

Bloggs, Flap 18 is now the company preferred take-off flap setting (in line with the FCOM.)

[Icarus2001]

Well the boys and girls have been spotted in Brisbane undertaking training.

[Icarus2001]

http://www.aviationwa.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/20150325_VH-NJA_Keith_Anderson_2.jpg

[Capn Bloggs]

I do say, Iccy, when are you moving west?!

[Cravenmorehead]

Now that's a pretty aircraft. Why go West????

[PoppaJo]

How's the contract compared to Virgin E190?

[Icarus2001]

A few minutes work and you can discover the answer for yourself...

https://www.fwc.gov.au/

[Capn Bloggs]

Flew straight over the top of me today; identified it immediately by the massive blue stripe on the belly. :D

[Nautilus Blue]

Flew straight over the top of me today; identified it immediately by the massive blue stripe on the belly.
Not too close I hope, it's non RVSM :ugh:

[Capn Bloggs]

Not too close I hope,
I was waterskiing, he was on the East-Africa One departure. :}

[Nautilus Blue]

Well that spoiled that rant, can I start one about the new East-Africa SIDs instead?

[Capn Bloggs]

Maybe that's why the E190 is painted ocean-blue; spends most of it's time west of Rottnest avoiding Pearce... :} :}

[Icarus2001]

I thought that they pinched the Skywest blue?

http://www.aviationwa.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/20130730_VH-FNR_Fokker_100_David_Eyre-1.jpg
http://www.aviationwa.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/20150131_VH-NJA_Keith_Anderson_3.jpg

Not too close I hope, it's non RVSM
Don't panic, I checked today. The countrys finest minds in Canberra are processing the paperwork. I heard them at FL390 last week so it does not seem to be holding them up much.

[Capn Bloggs]

On the big white squares. Nice.

[gear tilt]

Any one know where they do their E190 sim ? Are there any other e190 sims in ozy other than the virgin@ brissy?

[Snakecharma]

Only one 190 sim on Australia.

Next nearest is Singapore if I recall correctly.

[Pimp Daddy]

Troops have been doing the endorsements in Germany

[gear tilt]

Thanks for that 👍

[Agent86]

Number 2 on the way?

Expression of Interest - Embraer 170/190 Type Rated Pilots Job in Perth - SEEK (http://www.seek.com.au/job/28956480?pos=1&type=standout)

[AerocatS2A]

You would think they might advertise on AFAP and other aviation related websites if they want pilots to see the ads.

[Captain Klink]

See thread in GA Forum. Apparently problems with AFAP website.

[AerocatS2A]

Well I see ads on the 25th June, but no Cobham ads which still makes me think they haven't advertised with AFAP.

[Agent86]

Aerocat. Maybe Seek update their website as the ad is placed.
Friday afternoon updates on the AFAP website may not be a high priority or Ms Hamam hasn't got around to sending to the AFAP. Maybe she should send it direct to the VIPA :)
Anyway ..over 1000 subsequent views of this thread probably beats both the SEEK and AFAP pilot readers :O

[AerocatS2A]

Aerocat. Maybe Seek update their website as the ad is placed.
Friday afternoon updates on the AFAP website may not be a high priority or Ms Hamam hasn't got around to sending to the AFAP. Maybe she should send it direct to the VIPA :)
Anyway ..over 1000 subsequent views of this thread probably beats both the SEEK and AFAP pilot readers :O

Yeah, except that 1/4 of those views are probably from you and me, and the ad is wasted on both of us :).

[Capn Bloggs]

Yeah, except that 1/4 of those views are probably from you and me, and the ad is wasted on both of us
Surely Scat you haven't become a LIGHT twin pilot??!! :eek:

[AerocatS2A]

Surely Scat you haven't become a LIGHT twin pilot??!! :eek:
No, but they're after external applicants with experience on type.