Ex J* A332's

[Tom/PER]

With -EBB re-entering QF service yesterday can anyone confirm what, if any IFE has been fitted to the Y cabin?

The press releases have so far been fairly vague regarding these ex J* machines and what facilities they'll be fitted with down the back.

I'm fairly sure they haven't been fitted with the Panasonic eX2 system as fitted to the domestic A332's -EBM onwards, but surely they've had Q-streaming installed using the gear out of some of the B763's now languishing under the Californian sun.

[kellykelpie]

Correct - iPads with Q Streaming.

[log0008]

With Qantas slowly getting more A330s from Jetstar, what routes are they going on, I thought they only used them on flight from Perth to the east and international, but they are replacing 767s which are on east coast routes?

[Keg]

The iPads are supposed to be an interim measure until the new config gets up and going in 12-18 months.

[waren9]

whats new about it keg that it couldnt be done straight away?

[Mstr Caution]

I've heard networks are 'looking' at sending the QF 330's to Darwin. Once the 767's are gone there is a distinct lack of freight capacity into Darwin. Increasing 737 services will cover the shortage of passenger seats. But the freight space in the 737 remains an issue. Especially bulky freight that was containerised in the 767.

So the networking issues mean either cover the shortfall with the dedicated QF freight or service Darwin with the A330.

This freight problem will be a network wide issue with the retirement of the 767 in December.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the A330's operating to CNS. Up against the competitors 320's & 737's.

MC.

[Mstr Caution]

Log0008.

The A330 commences Honolulu operations next month.

Early morning services such as BNE-SYD use to be 767. You now have 330's operating some of these services.

MC

[blueloo]

But only till December.......(apparently)

Then, I think your choice will only be Hawaiin, or if you must on one star.

Apparently this was from Joyce's latest town hall meeting.

[Mstr Caution]

Blue loo

I hadn't heard that. But knowing Joyce it wouldn't surprise me.

Instead of mothballing the owned 744's in storage. Joyce should have deployed them on the HNL run. Looking at the 767 loads that are consistently full. They could have filled the 744.

Use the 400 until mainlines 789's arrived.

[slice]

With the maint cost per cycle of the 330 can you make money doing BNE-SYD even with a full aircraft?

[blueloo]

angryrat - possibly. I mean not even Alan knows where the fleet will be flying.

I believe the context was A330s and specifically Honolulu. I believe the question was along the lines of - now that the A330s will be flying to Honolulu, why is Qantas not heavily promoting this to say yes we finally have a new aircraft on the run.

I believe there was an implication that it will not be flying there from December, so there was no point promoting it.

Who knows. Thats todays rumour.

[Tom/PER]

-EBN did a SYD-CNS-SYD rotation yesterday..QF924/925.

kellykelpie, that's what I thought too, but apparently their is no iPads supplied in Y class, which doesn't really make sense as it spent a lot of time at the BNE maintenance facility both before and after repaint.

[dragon man]

Last week they were looking at increased take off weights for some 330s and putting them on Brisbane lax JFK .

[Tom/PER]

That brings an interesting point.

Do the 4 International A332's -EBG, H, I and L have a higher MTOW from when they used to do AKL-LAX-JFK rotations compared to their domestic siblings?

I remember seeing something on here about the J* ones having higher take off weights too.

[AirWest]

The question remains why didn't the J* aircraft undergo the cabin interior BEFORE they went into service with Qantas? wouldn't it be common sense? Or am I thinking outside the box

[scotton]

but apparently their is no iPads supplied in Y class,


No inflight entrainment on a widebody ???

[Condition lever]

So where is that Professional Passenger website again..... :ugh:

[Toruk Macto]

Passengers use their own device and log into A/C's wifi system .

[Beer Baron]

AirWest and Waren9,
I believe the answer to your question is in this article.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-on-track-for-launch-of-all-new-business-class-seat

The key points being;
With less than 20 weeks until the first Business Suite takes flight, Morris says the job is about “continuing to refine and refine until we get perfect comfort and experience levels.”
The Business Suite is now entering the home stretch for certification by aviation safety authorities.
“There’s a lot of testing happening right now, we have to put dummies in the seats and make sure the seat will meet safety requirements.”
“We’re reeling in the regulatory stages right now,” add Morris, who may still spend a final night sleeping in the Business Suite before its December launch.

[blueloo]

Well that is positive news. (Hopefully they mean QF 330s and not Onestar. )

[Tom/PER]

I realise it's a pointless discussion now, but in hindsight wouldn't it of made more sense refurbing and reconfiguring the later B763ER's and transferring them across to J*? Several sources are now saying that WestJet are taking 4 x 94-97 build QF B763's for their Hawaiian services (I've heard it's -OGN and O, but other sources at saying it's the 4 International configured ones -OGR thru to U).

WestJet are reported to be extensively refurbishing these aircraft with new interiors, IFE and winglets prior to them entering service.

Air Canada's Rouge is a recent example of a LCC that is still acquiring B763's from its parent, revamping them and using them on long range services.

This would of enable QF to retain their A332's and open up new possibilities with the 788's and/or lease them out to generate revenue.

Also reports the QF CFO has a plan B for Perth and reintroducing Singapore services are back on the table, which will no doubt involve the A330 fleet.

[ebt]

Of course, hindsight is always 20/20. As I understand it, at the time JQ longhaul was being dreamed up, the A332s were the orphans in the fleet because the longer turnarounds were causing some issues on the domestic operation. At that time they preferred the 763s for additional lift, while there was little incentive to add too many widebodies to the transcon services. And they were going to be replaced soon after with the 788s, allowing the A332s to come back to QF. Of course, the 788s were delayed by years, Virgin got widebodies for the transons and the market changed in a way that QF/JQ did not see coming, or if they did they moved too late to address it.

Hopefully now with the A332s going back to QF and getting new interiors they will move across to the international arm and start right-sizing some of their markets.

[Pontius]

Hopefully now with the A332s going back to QF and getting new interiors they will move across to the international arm and start right-sizing some of their markets.

Meanwhile anybody living, as you do EBT, in Perth will have given up on Qantas for good and switched to an airline that can provide a decent service from WA, without having to fly to SYD first or fly with another airline to the one you booked e.g EK.

Once I've burnt my FF miles (IF I ever manage to actually get a QF flight using them) I will never fly on QF again.

XXX A Platinum One FF

(It's okay, I won't let the door hit me on my arse on the way out)

[VS-LHRCSA]

I've also read the report about the possibility of PER-SIN being reinstated. We had SIN for most of July and going by the amount of transfer bags I loaded (many for BA16) there is still a need for the service.