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OFSO
16th Jul 2014, 20:31
I was just reading the yahoo! review of the BMW i8, which starts off

What’s new?Considering the quantum leap in design and approach to performance motoring, it would be easier to list what wasn't new about BMW's i8.

Well, how refreshing ! how nice to read that BMW have done the minimum amount or the smallest amount (depending on your definition) in their design and approach....

Capetonian
16th Jul 2014, 20:35
Almost as bad as a review of a car I read that stated :
"At the end of the day, what we all want is a car that starts in the morning."

G-CPTN
16th Jul 2014, 20:36
To be fair, it was Clive Sinclair (he of the ZX Spectrum computer and the C5 electric tricycle) who distorted the meaning of quantum when he named the Spectrum successor the Quantum Leap.

Many people assumed that a quantum leap was a huge amount.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
16th Jul 2014, 20:41
Quantum Leap has, to my knowledge and those of my colleagues, always been misused in the media and by the general public. The contranym is not uncommon in English, or for that matter in other languages.

Don't get stuck fast on the issue ;)

Fox 3
MInstP

Checkboard
16th Jul 2014, 20:53
They are using the term correctly. A Quantum Leap is a movement from one state to another, without passing through the states in between. A "sudden jump".

The size of the jump has nothing to do with it.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
16th Jul 2014, 21:03
I did check the dictionaries.
quantum leap: definition of quantum leap in Oxford dictionary (British & World English) (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/quantum-leap)
A quantum leap is normally regarded as referring to a large or significant change (and sudden, but not all dictionaries define it this way), and physics (which originated the term in English) uses quantum jump to mean sudden, and a quantum to be the smallest unit/change which can be measured.

Mind you, if you want a real laugh, just listen to how sports commentators use the words power, energy, speed, etc.

Shaggy Sheep Driver
16th Jul 2014, 21:05
And what about 'meteoric rise'?

Meteors that go up (other than those from Glosters) would be a strange phenomena indeed.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
16th Jul 2014, 21:10
As an Astronomy lecturer, I have come to accept the pitiful misuse of technical language. Don't get me started on "zero gravity.....:{"

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Checkboard
16th Jul 2014, 21:38
and a quantum to be the smallest unit/change which can be measuredThat's the misunderstanding. If a system changes state from one position to the next, and doesn't pass through any states in between, then the smallest change which can be measured is the difference between those two states (as the system did not pass though any intermediate steps with smaller changes).

Smallest, in the context of the quote, doesn't necessarily mean "tiny".

Thus, if BMW's car manufacturing changes from petrol-powered sports cars with consumption of 25L/100km, to hybrid-electric cars with consumption of 2L/100km - a jump in manufacturing technology (in this context) - without any incremental intermediate steps then it has undergone a quantum shift.

Wholigan
16th Jul 2014, 21:51
It was an amusing and entertaining series though ........ ;):E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjK9GJMBpt0

probes
17th Jul 2014, 04:42
See? Even you can't agree on the real meaning? :8 Therefore, Cape, the "At the end of the day, what we all want is a car that starts in the morning." is pure words of wisdom - it started this morning, it's the end of the day and the only thing to wish for is that it would start the next morning as well. I guess. :E

B Fraser
17th Jul 2014, 05:53
Meteors that go up (other than those from Glosters) would be a strange phenomena indeed.

Not so ! Lightning is a photometeor and the return ground to cloud strike is the visible part. Sprites are also photometeors and go from cloud tops to high altitude. Now those are strange phenomena !

A quantum leap is also totally random as well as incredibly small.

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Dr Beef

PhD, Dip. University Of Annoying & Useless Facts.

Capetonian
17th Jul 2014, 06:39
What about adverts for 'totally unlimited' and 'free gifts'?

sitigeltfel
17th Jul 2014, 07:05
At £95k, a leap in income, quantum or otherwise, will be required before most people could buy an i8!
Looks like BMW are using this as a showcase for future technology and getting the early adopters to fund it.

500N
17th Jul 2014, 07:12
A slight extra slip of the finger on the "f" key by the looks of it ;) :O

Cacophonix
17th Jul 2014, 07:21
"At the end of the day, what we all want is a car that starts in the morning."

Believe me, when I was driving my Triumph Herald all those years ago, the ability to start it in the morning would have been a great attribute, yes that and the ability to keep the driver side door from opening unexpectedly while in transit (yes it sometimes could be cajoled into starting and moving)... ;)

Caco

Capetonian
17th Jul 2014, 07:25
when I was driving my Triumph Herald all those years agoThe possibility of going round a corner on any surface less smooth than plate glass without those awful swing axles on the rear giving way and catapulting the back end of the car round to the front would have been nice too. (I'm referring to the Spitfire I had which was only a glorified Herald.)

Shaggy Sheep Driver
17th Jul 2014, 07:58
BF - in that case, the saying should be 'lightning rise'.

Capetonian - should have got a Mk1V Spit. That had the swing axles tamed by a transverse leaf spring which limited downward swing of the axles and so prevented the dreaded 'tuck under'. A fun car!

A VW Beetle once tried to kill me through 'tuck under', but that car could never go fast enough to be really dangerous!

OFSO
17th Jul 2014, 10:49
The Syrius Cybernetics Corporation use it to mean "very large" which is why I thought that must be incorrect....

ExRAFRadar
17th Jul 2014, 11:22
I like "Free cash machine"

Shaggy Sheep Driver
17th Jul 2014, 11:40
Not copywriting but a train announcement that always amuses me, Transpennine Express on approaching Manchester Piccadilly:

"Change here for Metrolink to ALL destinations"

Ummm...... Hong Kong? The Moon? :)

Capetonian
17th Jul 2014, 11:54
Airport announcements :

"This is the last call for flight XX 123. Please board immediately at gate 15."

next :
"This is the last and final call for flight XX 123. Please board immediately at gate 15."

next
"This is absolutely the last and final call for flight XX 123. Please board immediately at gate 15."

next
"This is the last and final call for flight XX 123. Passengers Brown, Johnson, and Williams please board immediately at gate 15."

next
"This is the last and final call for flight XX 123. Please board immediately at gate 15 or your baggage will be offloaded."

Last = final = last ........

Cacophonix
17th Jul 2014, 12:50
Capetonian you old devil you. You really shouldn't delay purposely like that! It winds the crew up and adds to the Captain's blood pressure tablets bill. ;)

Caco

bugged on the right
17th Jul 2014, 15:01
It'd be a quantum leap if they fitted the things with indicators.

Carry0nLuggage
17th Jul 2014, 23:25
More of a leap of faith or indeed a miracle.

con-pilot
18th Jul 2014, 00:28
"This is the last and final call for flight XX 123. Passengers Con, Brown, Johnson, and Williams please board immediately at gate 15."

You know what, this is the only good thing about the security measures.

I can hang around outside and have one more cigarette before I climb into a tube of death and not worry about missing my flight. :p




Just kidding, I don't do that.


Thought about it though. :E

james ozzie
18th Jul 2014, 06:44
"Don't forget your personal belongings". Are there any other kind?

Dr Jekyll
18th Jul 2014, 09:32
A few years back when you could get credit cards that contributed to charity in some mysterious manner. I got some junk mail for such a credit card issued on behalf of the RAF benevolent fund. With no apparent sense of irony the advertising trying to persuade me to borrow money started off with the quote 'Never has so much been owed to so few'.

Pinky the pilot
18th Jul 2014, 10:47
'Never has so much been owed to so few'.

Which is not the correct quote IIRC.:ugh:

What was allegedly the response by some Pilot to Churchill's statement, referring to the above misquote?:confused:

Was it not something along the lines of

'He must have been talking about our Mess bills!':}

radeng
22nd Jul 2014, 14:00
Meanwhile, on Radio 4 this morning, some 'expert' on Russia explaining why the story in some Russian newspapers that MH17 was shot down by a fighter was wrong. "fighters can't go to thirty thousand feet" !

Was he thinking of the RFC's Bristol fighters?

Made me think of the SR71 pilot "Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil for I am at 85,000 feet and mach 2.5".

Fox3WheresMyBanana
22nd Jul 2014, 14:57
He was referring to the Su-25 Frogfoot (which can't reach 30,000'), which was part of some other of the 50 million rumours a few days ago, that MH17 was being escorted by Frogfoots (Frogfeet !?) until 2 mins before impact.

Ancient Observer
22nd Jul 2014, 16:28
I had one of those photo-meteors in the back of my cab once. He didn't say a lot. He was a bit flashy.

Stanwell
22nd Jul 2014, 18:43
radeng/Fox3,
Just like any warship, to our breathless reporters, is a 'battleship'.

radeng
23rd Jul 2014, 08:24
Other ones that annoy:

'Disabled Toilet'. I don't want one that's disabled, I want one that works.

'Disabled Parking'. I am not intending to park anyone disabled there, only their vehicle.

'Alarmed door'. This is cruelty to doors to alarm the poor thing and in any case, about what is it alarmed?

The American term 'Handicapped' is, I feel, more accurate.