Interesting photo - Q A380, water in aisle

[500N]

Don't normally post minor things but saw this photo in the Age of the LA Qantas A380 that turned back after a waterpipe burst.

Looks like a lot of water flowing down the aisle.

Qantas flight from Los Angeles turns back after water pipe leaks (http://www.theage.com.au/business/aviation/qantas-flight-from-los-angeles-turns-back-after-water-pipe-leaks-20140702-zstzf.html)

http://i60.tinypic.com/xc66x0.jpg

[nitpicker330]

Wow, looks bad. Keep that away from the E and E Compartment......

[p.j.m]

Seriously, with that much water running down the aisle and into the economy deck below, how can Qantas have the balls to say

There were no safety of flight concerns with the water leak, however the Captain decided to return to LA in the interests of passenger comfort.

Melbourne-bound Qantas flight forced back to Los Angeles because of a burst water pipe | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/melbournebound-qantas-flight-forced-back-to-los-angeles-because-of-a-burst-water-pipe/story-fnizu68q-1226975653219)

These A380's seems to have a high level of odd failures......

[KrispyKreme]

Should of never got to the stage it did if the cabin crew just shut off the water supply, that's a fair bit of water that I have just seen on the video!!

[Blueskymine]

Not a big deal. I'm sure it'll fix itself.

[SOPS]

Blue Sky beat me to it, but I'm sure Alan does not need any LAMEs to fix this, as all these new aircraft fix themselves,

[500N]

I didn't realize the water also flowed from the ceiling onto those on the lower level.
That makes it worse than I first thought.

Photo in Rumours thread.

[hoss]

I think it's already been done, "Lakes on a plane". ;)

All the talk of 'self healing' aircraft, how about Airbus stigmata!

[mymatesadutchman]

Well done Qantas management.Who do you think is going to believe you.Water in the cabin is a safety issue

[p.j.m]

Not a big deal. I'm sure it'll fix itself. Yeah, no need for preventative maintenance, just fix on fail. Seem to be getting a lot of fails these days No matter, we saved enough to give the CEO a bigger bonus, and employ some more PR dweebs to handle any fallout.

[Sunfish]

Didn't know the A380 had a swimming pool...

[tail wheel]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BriXoV3CUAAS_vw.jpg

[Ngineer]

^^^^^^^^^ A lot worse than I thought.

[Nulli Secundus]

What I don't get is how could that leak turn the seats that horrible green colour?

[500N]

They aren't quite that bad (the camera seems to add a Green tinge to the photo) but they aren't that nice a colour either !

[p.j.m]

In other news Qantas sends passengers a bill for the extra amenity of a waterfall and stream on their flight. Touts new levels of passenger comfort Qantas spokesman trumpets Qantas's world class innovation and pushing the boundaries in customer satisfaction. Says other Airlines will find this hard to follow.

[500N]

We now provide something no one else does, a free bath / shower on your flight to or from LA !

[Spotlight]

Looks more like Air India.

[Bankstown Boy]

yeah! it's one-up-man-ship on their 'partner' airline - they only provide showers in first class

[blueloo]

Aside from electronics damage which could be catastrophic, especially in a bus, is there sufficient potable water carried on board that should it accumulate at the very aft (or nose) it could take it out of CofG limits?

[Spanner Turner]

No.

Total H2O capacity is 2000kgs.
Typical load across the Pacific would be 1600-1800.
Have at worst case 1800kgs run down the back - same as
10 people on each deck going for a wander down the back at the same time.

The size of the horizontal stabiliser is as large as an A320 - I'm hard pressed
To think of a scenario that you would run out of trim authority!

:ok:

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[Wally Mk2]

Airbus & QF are getting their fair share of adverse publicity these days, the last thing they both need is a major event like this that could have been catastrophic to all on board.
I would say most of the wizz bang stuff is in the fwd lower part of the fuse so keeping a positive body angle was probably a smart move especially initially.
As awful as it sounds one of these things will fall from the sky & this event shows that it's coming some day.


Wmk2

[jwrobbo]

Not The Nancy-Bird Walton again. Please no!

[Blueskymine]

So is the skipper going to write a book about his heroic efforts?

Shame it wasn't on a LCC flight. The punters could use a shower :}

[Lodown]

Probably been done already...

"And in the unlikely event of an emergency, a mask and snorkel will drop from the ceiling above your head..."

"Now, in preparation for take-off, please put on your life jacket, sit back and..."

[sierra5913]

Not The Nancy-Bird Walton again. Please no!

Flightradar24 picked it up as VH-OQD.

[GAFA]

Isn't the latest trend to have water features in backyards. Perhaps Qantas/Airbus are just following the trend. If it's nice and relaxing to have a water feature at home, surely you would feel relaxed having one on an aircraft:rolleyes:

[TTY]

Should be good for the Australian swimming team on their way to oversea,s meets, able to while away the hours training in the down stairs lap lanes.

[500N]

Check out the video here. That is one hell of a lot of water.

The speaker said it flowed for 45 minutes.

Where would all of the water have ended up ?

Passenger films Qantas water leak (http://media.smh.com.au/news/national-news/passenger-films-qantas-water-leak-5564456.html)

[B772]

I would be getting a water sample analyzed and looking at what materials the water came in contact with to determine if there is an possibility of corrosion or sometime worse.

[no-hoper]

Each galley and lavatory has a manual shut-off valve.
On the FA Panel are buttons for lh and rh shut-off.
System depressurization in flight ("Shut Down" button) is on the same panel.
Without pressure the water will stay in the tanks,which are located in the aft cargo .

Passengers describe flooded Qantas flight - YouTube

[ejet3]

i heard 1.4 tonne of water

[ejet3]

seriously what a joke how can qantas say there was no risk! all that water in the ceiling touching wires etc! and not to mentions the movement of the CG with all the water moving backwards! what a joke qantas

[deadcut]

Can somebody do the math if 1.4 tonnes moving towards the tail will do anything significant to the CofG?

Just so the likes of ejet can calm down.

[standard unit]

Even with the A380 taking on 1.4 tonnes of water common sense would tell you that it was never in any danger of sinking :}

[KrispyKreme]

no-hoper, i am wondering now if the FA even knew or pressed the "shutdown button" that is a lot of water and it ran for 45mins. Pressure should bleed off that system in a matter of minutes once that button is selected :confused:

[dartman2]

Was it fresh water or something from the turd tank...

[Jethro Gibbs]

Even better MacGyver was on board would someone pass the duct tape and a ball of string and he will get this sorted in no time. Lol .

[500N]

Dartma
I hope not from that tank !

[dragon man]

Maybe a little off the subject, however if the 380 was already on Dallas daily utilisation up 10%, more 747s parked and crews removed from service what would have happened? Il tell you, a cluster f##k, watch and wait it's going to happen. These clowns have no idea.

[BP2197]

Even after the clean up, I wouldn't like to be sitting in those seats the next time the aircraft rotates and the inaccessible puddles are liberated.

[ejet3]

cant be good!

[Volume]

picked it up as VH-OQDOverall Quite Dry ?

[glendalegoon]

once a jolly pilotman
flew a flying billabong

had to do some paperwork, 1 2 3

turned around the billabong

and coasted in to a beach thats long

you'll come a flooding matilda with me.

flooding matilda

flooding matilda

you'll come a flooding matilda with me

and he called as he heard and waited for his cabin crew

you'll come a flooding matilda with me.

[500N]

You can have mishaps, oxygen cylinders go off, holes in the side and whatever (excluding QF32) but the video shown on the TV tonight of passengers standing around wet while water flooded down the aisle and continuous flow from the ceiling on Qantas's newish A-380 was not a good look at all.


glendalegoon

Very good :ok:

[glendalegoon]

thank you 500n

I've loved "Waltzing Mathilda" for the greater portion of my adult life.

Maybe someone will rename the plane flooding mathilda or simply: Billabong.

(I know the Australians (GOD BLESS THEM) know what a Billabong is, but for those who don't know, its a creek that runs when it rains, and in this plane, when it rains, it pours)

[500N]

Billabong


The perfect name for it :ok:

[Volume]

And the lower deck aisles will be known as "the waterfall way" ;)

[500N]

They could rename some of the A-380's as

Billabong
Jolly Swagman
Jumbuck
Squatter
Trooper

and park them next to each other !

[ContactMeNow]

Just wait for the 30 minute special coming on Today Tonight with Geoffrey Thomas taking a shower in the A380.

"As you can see here, QANTAS is now offering economy class passengers a first (EK) class experience. As you can see this is perfectly safe and passengers should not be alarmed."

Now to get the horrible image of him showering out of my head...:yuk:

CMN :}

[500N]

"Today Tonight with Geoffrey Thomas"

He'll probably be on whatever the 9 Breakfast program is tomorrow giving a run down of possible problems that MAY have occurred and how disaster was averted :*

[Qantas 787]

Agree with dragon man - A380 utlisation will only increase, less 747's to save them when something goes wrong, it could get very ugly.

[500N]

Just occurred to me.

Obviously no way of turning it off at the tank ?

[Boe787]

Love the description in Aviation Herald:

Qantas A388 near Los Angeles on Jul 2nd 2014, rain in cabin.

[Tankengine]

TV news (always accurate of course:E) indicated "burst" pipe.
Is so then no turning off of water may have been possible depending where break was.:(

[11Fan]

Someone apparently filled the portable water tank instead of the potable.

[Volume]

Anyone remember the VH-OJM incident?The 747 has all the avionics in the underfloor area, the A380 has most of it on the upper deck aft of the cockpit, where the height is not enough to place passengers. With two decks of pax and one deck for luggage you need to minimize any space wasted for electronics down there, which in cases like this can save you a fortune... However, the mechanics will have some work to do now...

[500N]

On the news tonight so not sure how accurate but they said the aircraft is already back in service.

Also, the replacement aircraft that the people flew out on also had a problem !

Q is not having a good time of it.

[Spey]

Hey 500N,

Just heard on the 6pm radio news that a second A380 from LAX to MEL had issues as well.

The aircraft was OQA!!

QF allegedly said it was 'minor'

I can't find the source so I have emailed the radio station.

Any sources or links?

Thanks!
QANTAS A380 VH-OQA Rapid Los Angeles Turnaround. (http://www.theqantassource.com/qantas-a380-vh-oqa-rapid-los-angeles-turnaround/)

July 3, 2014

QANTAS A380 VH-OQA arrived into Los Angeles as QF93 from Melbourne this morning, then immediately turned around to operate last night’s delayed QF94 Los Angeles – Melbourne.

[no-hoper]

Only IFE and some power panels plus some emergency stuff are located above the cockpit.The rest is below the cockpit in front of the forward cargo hold.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/26415/1190578236KaEaG4.png

[p.j.m]

Also, the replacement aircraft that the people flew out on also had a problem !

but, but, "they fix themselves"!

[500N]

Spey,

No links, the source was Ch 9 news and I only caught the end of it.

I am not a Qantas basher so don't go looking for this stuff, just thought it ironic that the 2nd one also had a problem.

Surprised how quickly they got the aircraft back on line, thought it would take longer.

[Captain Gidday]

Calm down guys. I think you are confusing the terms 'turn back' and 'turnaround'.
All normal for Nancy, I think you'll find.

[nitpicker330]

A few years ago some operators used to call the A380 the A180.......:ok:

[bankrunner]

There was dirty brown water pouring out of the galley near me in row 79 on a QF A380 on the way to LAX late July last year, though the crew mostly kept it at bay with what must have been 50kg of paper towel; only a relatively small amount ended up down the aisle.

The FA seated in the jumpseat right across from me at the time told me it was not uncommon, though I'm guessing not many of the plumbing dramas they've had previously are quite as bad as this one!

[500N]

If it is " not un common ", then doesn't that mean a continuous problem that they haven't yet solved ?

You have to ask why ?

After all, the water can come from certain places.

[Tom/PER]

-OQD is currently flying QF9.

Seems like a very quick fix and repair considering the amount of damage that appeared to be evident.

Do they have Carpet Call in LAX??

[underfire]

soon as they dropped the gear it all ran out....

dont forget the vent doors on the bottom!

http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ventsBG.jpg

[500N]

Maybe someone can answer but how to you dry carpet out that quickly, even industrial carpet that doesn't or might not soak up as much water ?

And that's before all the other items people have mentioned.

[bankrunner]

Give the pax a pair of gumboots each with their amenity packs? :ok:

[Lord_Lucan]

They flew OQD to DXB and left in parked in the sun for a day to dry out - weather forecast for Dubai yesterday was maximum 46° C and minimum 33° C. Probably smells like a wet dog on the inside.