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Top Run
27th Jun 2014, 10:05
Expecting my upgrade soon. I know it is a customary vexing question time and time again. But can any FO veterans give insights about the training and FO lifestyle henceforth? Not the good ole days FO lifestyle but the current one. Expecting a baby along the way. Help appreciated thanks!

AQIS Boigu
28th Jun 2014, 10:26
It depends...

Upgrade on the 777...3 long hauls, 15-18 days off and less than 2 landings a months (exactly what a 200hr cadet needs to finesse his/her flying skills).

A330...15-25 sectors a month, 8-10 Gs with a few O days to screw with your roster, lots of India, split duties and Asian turn around and overnight flights - no 3 man crew till you get your RQ.

Training...as usual in CX depends who you get but generally good...most trainers wanna get the best out of you so it's up to you to a certain extent. Don't get bogged down with tech stuff...what counts is route knowledge, NPs and OPS-A...

Hope this helps...
AB

Long Dong Silver
28th Jun 2014, 16:12
Seriously....

you have no idea what FO rosters look like after spending 3+ years as an SO? ...really?

speedyb
28th Jun 2014, 16:40
Why must there be always a :mad: in the crowd here. The poster is just asking a question.

Iver
28th Jun 2014, 16:52
What about schedules on the freighter fleet (744/8F)? Similar to the 777 schedule?

ETOPS240
28th Jun 2014, 17:15
Wow. There really are some special people on PPRuNe.

Top Run
28th Jun 2014, 18:44
Thanks a lot mates for those who truly helped. That being said, working with FOs and eventually being a FO myself are totally different. Trying to get a grip of what to expect. Cheers

monster330
28th Jun 2014, 19:22
Long dong silva had it right.

Why isn't there more awareness by an upcoming candidate

Do you homework.
You shouldn't have to get it here

Monster

Hobo
28th Jun 2014, 20:08
Slight thread drift, but anybody at Cathay know what this music is on their Skytrax award for 2009 video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXDpTp2yfWg

jimjim1
28th Jun 2014, 20:41
"music is on their Skytrax"

According to my phone (via shazam app) it is:

I will be there with you (instrumental version)
David foster

Sam Ting Wong
29th Jun 2014, 02:34
Check the rosters on intraCX.

Hobo
29th Jun 2014, 06:10
According to my phone (via shazam app) it is:

I will be there with you (instrumental version)
David foster
Thanks jimjim1 ... in the youtube link it appears to be sung, and sounds like a female voice though.....

I've done a bit of research based on your info and the title is right, but the artist is Katharine McPhee. I think it was composed by David Foster. Reason I ask, is that a friend of my daughter's has a very similar voice and wants to add it to her repetoire!

Thanks again jimjim1

cxorcist
29th Jun 2014, 17:16
FO - single - enough time and money to have a good time OR to save decently for retirement, but not enough money to do both.

FO - married, no kids - wife working certainly helps to have extra income for saving and a decent lifestyle.

FO - family man - no money for saving or having a good time, just struggling along paying ridiculous school fees and surviving in your cramped apartment or tiny villa. Staff travel to get home sucks horribly, and base slots are nowhere to be seen.

A330 and B747 = crap rosters, but lots of landings. :ok:
B777 = good rosters, but you won't get comfortable as PF for a long time.

crwkunt roll
30th Jun 2014, 00:34
The Airline's flagship money maker, B777, not seen until 1:54 seconds in, and what was that really BIG A340, you know the one they don't have anymore? The one that actually would have suited JNB perfectly all year round? :p
I digress.... They upgrading you ALREADY?

yokebearer
1st Jul 2014, 04:35
TOP RUN


4 years in the company and you have to come ask a factual question on a rumor network about what your job is like?

Cathay hires some special ones these days....:ugh:

boxjockey
1st Jul 2014, 04:39
I have to agree. You don't even need to speak to anyone to find the answers you desire. Odd that you would come on here asking these sorts of questions. You're weird!!!

box

broadband circuit
1st Jul 2014, 05:13
You don't even need to speak to anyone to find the answers you desire. Odd that you would come on here asking these sorts of questions. You're weird!!!

Maybe due to his weirdness, no one talks to him, hence his need to anonymously ask the question here.

crwkunt roll
1st Jul 2014, 08:58
that Canuck maybe?

AQIS Boigu
1st Jul 2014, 09:14
I was thinking the same thing...his name keeps coming up all the time...

Truckmasters
1st Jul 2014, 10:17
It's really a bit of a pointless thread.
He/she doesn't get a choice on whether to upgrade.
SO's who can't make the transition tend to find a don't come Monday letter.
You can quibble about the lifestyle as much as you like. It's not a choice unless you're prepared to leave the airline.

LW20
1st Jul 2014, 23:17
Sorry for asking, but as we do not have any SOs ( second officers?) in our company:

How does the SO differ from the FO within CX?

Thank you.

LW 20

SloppyJoe
2nd Jul 2014, 00:15
Not allowed in the seat below 20,000ft, obviously only used on 3 or 4 pilot ops.

Arfur Dent
2nd Jul 2014, 01:22
As in every world there are some young people who are brilliant. They watch operations - some difficult, most easy and normal. When the s**it hits the fan - normally a weather diversion - watch a good team............Then you learn (actually everybody learns):ok:

Anotherday
4th Jul 2014, 21:07
Talk to a local cadet who is upgrading ahead of you. Apparently they all have a list of around 11 trainers on the 777 they avoid at all costs. Get the list, avoid those trainers, instead learn from someone who actually wants you to get through the course, enjoy the upgrade. Easy.

monster330
5th Jul 2014, 03:26
I guess its all down to how much you want to work for a nice shiny company

Where? Cathay? Tell me you're joking