FAA Written ATP

[Vpilot53]

Hello


Can anyone tell me what I can take in to my FAA Written ATP exam?


Or send me a link. I have looked around and can't find anything


Cheers

[zondaracer]

E6B, plotter (though mostly useless in the exam), calculator that doesn't have the ability to store information (ie graphing calculator would not be allowed but a scientific one yes)

You don't need much else . They provide pencil and paper.

[Vpilot53]

Thanks for that. So no Jeppesen Books?


I am from Australia and trying to get my head around reading the FAA weather reports. Do you know of any helpful sites or documents that explains them in detail.

[MarkerInbound]

The FAA makes all their pubs available online. Look up "Aviation Weather Services." It is also listed as "Advisory Circular 00-45G."

[pinoyboy]

i've got a question. has anyone seen any info on whether canadian atp license holders who wish to convert to a faa atp must take the atp cpt course after aug 1 2014? the cpt course being the 10 hour level c/d sim training and 30 hours of ground school. currently its just a matter of a written test of 40 questions. if they dont have to take the cpt course that would be a great loophole for those who wish avoid spending the 10 to 15 k for the cpt course before being allowed to take the faa atp me written test. go convert your usa cpl to canada cpl , take the samra and saron written test and do the checkride and get a canadian atp and then the tc to faa atp written test and now you have 2 atp licenses and have saved 10 to 15 k by avoiding the cpt course :ok:

[Rotorhead1026]

GREAT question. AFAIK the sim. training wouldn't be required; the agreement between TC and FAA remains the same. There may be some guidance recently published that says otherwise - I'm not privy to that stuff. If you know of a FSDO that does a lot of such conversions, they'd be the one to ask. Just ask about the TC to FAA ATP; I wouldn't bring up the underlying FAA to TC commercial conversion.

When I did mine (FAA to TC) I held no Canadian tickets. Since you'll already hold both licenses (going TC to FAA), it's more complicated - but I don't think there are any restrictions. I don't see any below.

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_61-135.pdf

[pinoyboy]

i just thought of something, if you have an atp me and cpl se license and you want to get an atp se after aug 1st you might have to take a atp se written test. anyone who wants atp se might get it now to avoid that. just sayin

[Rotorhead1026]

Written's not required for a class add-on. In any case the training is only for f/w multiengine.

eCFR ? Code of Federal Regulations (http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=d6cef9585dc02362411a16f52b66b003&node=14:2.0.1.1.2.7.1.4&rgn=div8)

[pinoyboy]

yes, thats why i said maybe but the new atp dispatcher written test guide from faa june 2014 states atp tests after 1 aug 2014 are 125 questions for multiengine and 90 questions for single engine.

[MarkerInbound]

61.165(e) says you do not need a written to add a class rating if you hold an ATP in category unless you are adding a ME airplane to a SE airplane ATP.

[Rotorhead1026]

yes, thats why i said maybe but the new atp dispatcher written test guide from faa june 2014 states atp tests after 1 aug 2014 are 125 questions for multiengine and 90 questions for single engine.

As noted above, you need the ME written to add that rating to your ATP, but don't need the SE written for the converse. 61.165(e) and (f) ... (My IPad finally caught up with me :))

[Rotorhead1026]

Now that we've added one written requirement for one class add-on (with a grandfathering option), we've perhaps added a complication.

You've a commercial f/w license and take the (old) ATP written say, today (6/29/14). You're grandfathered for the ME sim training requirement - through 6/30/2016.

Perhaps unwisely, you use the results to take (and pass) the ATP SE practical - let's say 8/15/2014.

Still grandfathered? You've taken the appropriate written within 24 months, but you've "used" it.

I'd guess the written "expires" when used for a successful practical, but I don't recall seeing any guidance. It hasn't really come up until this new ATP rule, at least that I can see. In the above case then you'd best bite the bullet and take the SE knowledge test and save your grandfathered results for the ME practical. It would be the safest course.

[pinoyboy]

(after 1 aug) so if you have a atp se you need to take the atp me written BUT if your have an atp multi you dont need to take the atp se written to get atp se?
all i know is the really screwed this UP big time ! 125 questions? how do you get 70% out of that? increase the written 1/3 to 1/4 lowering chance of guessing and make it 75% to pass. i could go on for hours. now a foreign student can get the medical 80 bucks, written 150 and 2000 grand to rent a small twin and 500 for checkride and get an atp mel for under 3 grand. after aug 1 they need 10 -15 grand extra for ctp course ?!its gonna destroy foreign students studying in usa , about half the flight students in usa ! why didnt they just blend the ctp course into the type rating course? why so many atp licenses now? there are part 135 mins why not just 121 mins ? so confusing. and again what about canada to usa atp conversion ? still just a written test after aug 1st? yet you apply for original atp in usa and have to take cpt ? ay ay :ugh:ay btw the hold tc atp and faa atp single and multi land and sea , so really doesnt affect me but still ....

[MarkerInbound]

RH -

The way they wrote the reg once you hold a SE ATP you're locked into the post July training.

(f) Adding a multiengine class rating or airplane type rating to an airline transport pilot certificate with a single engine class rating. A person applying to add a multiengine class rating or airplane type rating to an airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane category single engine class rating must—

(1) Meet the eligibility requirements of §61.153;

(2) After July 31, 2014, pass a required knowledge test on the aeronautical knowledge areas of §61.155(c), as applicable to multiengine airplanes;

And in order to take the written after 31 July you have to complete the training program.

[pinoyboy]

ive done google searches and i dont see any info on the ctp course from flight schools i.e. offering or setting up ,NIL. its just one month away ! i have a feeling only the airlines will offer it. what about foreign faa atp students ? what about someone who bought a piper apache and wants the atp me for lower insurance rates and no interest in flying for an airline? :ugh: