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mad_jock
24th Jun 2014, 18:57
HackingTeam 2.0: The Story Goes Mobile - Securelist (http://www.securelist.com/en/blog/8231/HackingTeam_2_0_The_Story_Goes_Mobile)

Me and BEagle will be ok though with our ****e none smart phones.

BEagle
24th Jun 2014, 19:24
Tri-band phone with >5 day battery life between charges..... No camera, FM radio, GPS, MP3, camera, WiFi, Internet connection (except GPRS if you must), 'apps' (whatever the hell they are) or other largely pointless trivia - just voice and text. Clicks into the car's hands-free and speakers too.

All you really need from a phone, unless you're a geek or a pre-teenage girl!

Nokia 6310i - still the best there is!!

SpringHeeledJack
24th Jun 2014, 19:49
Make me the missing part of the all knowing triumvirate with a Nokia 6310i. The amount of times that it has been the victim of butterfingeritis speaks volumes for it's relative robustness. There are times when I wish that it had a few more bells and whistles, but for 95% of the time it does the job admirably. Out and about it either garners interest or pitying looks :)



SHJ

KBPsen
24th Jun 2014, 20:11
Clicks into the car's hands-free and speakers too. How did that work? Isn't a Model T Ford equipped with a 6 volt electrical system?

500N
24th Jun 2014, 20:12
Beagle

Agree re the Nokia 6310 and others that were close to that. I just threw out two of them, wish they still worked on our new network. I threw out Nokia Type 1100's.

I now use a Nokia N95, only because it was a slide phone which I like
but only use the basics !

Have been looking for a Nokia 6310 type that works over here.

What makes me laugh is it can take people a minute to actually get into their phone. I had a person trying to show me a photo and after 2 minutes he gave up trying to find it !!!

mad_jock
24th Jun 2014, 20:38
As its powered by 3.7V it won't be a problem for BEagle :p

BEagle
24th Jun 2014, 20:47
I'm surprised you know what electricity is up there in DFMB land, mad_jock!

:p

Booglebox
25th Jun 2014, 09:45
I note that Windows Phone was not mentioned (Windows Mobile is completely different).
*basks in smug glow* :}

mixture
25th Jun 2014, 10:45
I note that Windows Phone was not mentioned (Windows Mobile is completely different).
*basks in smug glow*

Yeah, well being a Microsoft product, Windows Phone has its own set of unique vulnerabilities no doubt. :p


And anyway, only utterly moronic twats jailbreak their phones... they deserve what they get for being such idiots if they deliberately bypass one of the fundamental aspects of smartphone security design.

Also publicity seeking "researchers" should be banned from conducted research on jailbroken phones... afterall, all bets are off once you've jailbroken, so its not really much point them conducting such "research".... all it does is give said "researchers" un-necessary and un-justified publicity.

Booglebox
25th Jun 2014, 12:40
Yeah, well being a Microsoft product, Windows Phone has its own set of unique vulnerabilities no doubt.

Unlikely, as it's based on the NT kernel, instead of WinCE like WP7; any bugs probably won't be "unique".
And, speaking of vulnerabilities, at least the lock screen actually, er, locks the phone.

New iPhone Lock Screen Bug Found In iOS 6.1.3 (http://thenextweb.com/apple/2013/03/20/new-iphone-lock-screen-bug-affects-ios-6-1-3/)
iOS 7 Bug Lets Anyone Bypass iPhone's Lockscreen To Hijack Photos, Email, Or Twitter - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/09/19/ios-7-bug-lets-anyone-bypass-iphones-lockscreen-to-hijack-photos-email-or-twitter/)

Your move :}

mixture
25th Jun 2014, 13:07
Stop digging yourself into that hole Booglebox !

Windows Phone 8 Crypto Weakness Equals Wi-Fi Risk (http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/windows-phone-8-crypto-weakness-equals-wi-fi-risk/d/d-id/1111059?)

Vulnerability in Windows Phone OS could allow information disclosure (http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/16972/intelligence/vulnerability-in-windows-phone-os-could-allow-information-disclosure.html)

etc. etc. etc.

I think you'll find in the long term, your beloved Windows Phone will loose this battle.

Booglebox
25th Jun 2014, 19:59
:D Brilliant logic as ever Mixture. Let me get this straight:

Security vulnerabilities that can only be exploited by highly-qualified, determined hackers in a targeted, deliberate attack
is the same as
Glaring flaw that lets any hoodlum with half a brain cell get into your phone in half a second

You're totally right, they're completely the same, what was I thinking? :ok: Guess I "loose" [sic] this one.

Keef
25th Jun 2014, 22:42
Greetings from an (expletives deleted) who has jailbroken all his iPhones to date. Yes, it makes them more open to hackers - but since I don't use dodgy software, it's a calculated risk.

There is software that I want to run which Apple has decided I should not be allowed to use. Curiously, it was allowed for a while, then Apple elected to disable it (without warning). The choice is therefore iPhone (which I like) and jailbreak, or one of the other phone varieties that will run that software without needing anything resembling a jailbreak. I tried Android and Windowsphone and didn't like them.

As ever, broad generalisations don't work in every case. I can't see how a hacker is going to get into my iPhone - or indeed, how not being jailbroken would make any difference in my case anyway.

crewmeal
26th Jun 2014, 05:40
You can upgrade to IOS 8 beta and try it out as a developer if you like. But don't expect it to be stable until it is officially launched later in the year.

mixture
26th Jun 2014, 06:26
I can't see how a hacker is going to get into my iPhone - or indeed, how not being jailbroken would make any difference in my case anyway.

If you can't see the difference and thus don't fully comprehend the dangers involved, then you should not have jailbroken your phone.

I'm sorry Keef, what I'm saying is not a "broad generalisation" ... its a cold hard fact.

All it'll take is for a momentary lapse of your awareness ... downloading the "wrong" App ... clicking on the "wrong" link... visiting the "wrong" website. Jailbreaking a phone opens up a number of new vectors that are not present in an unbroken phone. You can't even really trust the developers of the jailbreak software itself.

Apple don't implement jails on their devices to piss you off, they implement them as a part of a rigorous security model, which has been proven to work time after time.

Keef
26th Jun 2014, 16:43
Disagree, mixture. I'm actually not _quite_ as stupid as you'd have me be.

The choice - as explained - is jailbroken iPhone or non-iPhone. Non-jailbroken iPhone is not an option.

As the old saying goes ... it's my iPhone and I'll jailbreak it if I want to (need to).

exeng
27th Jun 2014, 01:51
With Mr Mixture always rely on a lecture with every single post. The font of all knowledge, be it puters, phones or probably anything that is driven by electricity and not gas.

Such a condescending attitude.

Mixture, other people have lives and post on here occasionally for help with a problem. They are not looking for somebody to try and prove they have superior knowledge.

I do hope you are not a training Captain. I've come across a few with the same attitude.