A380 to SFO & IAH

[GoreTex]

Emirates Increases Capacity to San Francisco and Houston | News | Emirates (http://www.emirates.com/english/about/news/news_detail.aspx?article=1709104&offset=0)

[nakbin330]

Can't wait for the 380 to take all the ULRs. Awful flying.

[GoreTex]

it is awful and I love to help a brother out any time

[myekppa]

Help yourself superman.

[MerAir80]

Well, after the 330 phase out, the A350 cancellation and no other planes coming other than 777s and 380s, all the night turnarounds, subcontinent flights, plus war zones will be served by the 777. I would rather keep the "awful" ULR trips. :{

[Emma Royds]

all the night turnarounds, subcontinent flights, plus war zones will be served by the 777.

EK 500 excepted! :E

[SOPS]

Silly question, but why are there two more Y class to Houston compared to SFO.

Read the press release if you don't understand what I'm talking about.

[aeropix]

As I understand it, Only the latest delivered (or soon-to-be delivered) A380's with the higher weights and PIP can make it on the long IAH flight, and these aircraft are configured slightly differently than the older ones due to relocation of some IFE equipment they can fit an additional seat-pair somewhere in the back. The older ones with the fewer seats have the range for other markets, such as SFO, but not quite for IAH.

As an aside, judging my personal experiences traveling on the Dugong to L.A. it seems to be carrying full loads on that route with no load restrictions, so I suppose they want the new planes for the Houston flight whereby they don't have to fly around with empty seats.

[yada.yada.yada]

I've heard that a second LAX is on the cards. 215 stays on the 380.

[SOPS]

Thanks for that, aeropix.:ok:

[Craggenmore]

SS.

The allocation of children seems to be better these days; maybe I have been lucky? Anyhow, most sleep when they're tired, bunks or no bunks. No one's a robot.

But it's not so much the rest problem SS. I like the 6 days off between these flights meaning 3 flights a month and about 20 rest/free days from work. You could almost commute..............especially in European summer time..............

[fliion]

Okay .., I'll bite. This latest move has tipped the scales for me. I knew it was coming but now it's reality.

US ULR is hands down my favorite flying

I don't care about A v B. (Before the usual suspects jump in :) & yes I understand my post EK marketability thoughts from the Boeing guys.

So question, roughly how junior has this gone for LHS B to A and is it still happening and available?

Prepared for incoming :0

f.

[donpizmeov]

F ,

It was over subscribed last time. No fleet change at the moment. But rumour has it will start again.

The don.

[givemewings]

The extra seats in Y come from shuffling the crew seating a bit, and squeezing in 2 extra seats in the gaps at 67/80 HJ/BC where there used to be none due to the door bustle (hope there's a discount on those! :uhoh:)

[fatbus]

The 777 fleet is so big the more senior pilots should be able to avoid if they bid correctly( some of them are not bad). The new Capt's and newhires will see alot.The 380 might do DEL and BOM and not all of them either.777 no US ULR, no morning EU and almost all India, the fleet to be on.

[Iver]

I recall an article in which Clark said his goal was to eventually fly double daily A380s to every North American destination (Canada not likely with their limited access). Again, this was a long term goal....

[Capt Groper]

The game plan has always been to operate the A380 on all ULR flights, which includes the Americas and Austrulasian destinations. Reason is that the aircraft was designed for medium to long haul flights with ultimate passenger comfort and satisfying demand with a greater capacity. Also airports need to provide or be adaptable to facilities like direct F and C class boarding gates, straight from the EK lounge to the upper deck. This can only be achieved where ternimals are a commercial concern and not bogged down by beaurocratic politics.

[scandistralian]

The 380 taking over 777 routes is hardly a surprise, and I am sure there are many more to come.

The operational future of the 777 in EK will be to replace 330/340 routes, new destination launch and development, maintain non-380 suitable routes, cargo and additional frequencies to existing routes.

Both fleets have their own contributing roles to the business and offer various lifestyle options for Pilots. With a young family, I am looking forward to picking up more of the intra-gulf turns from the 330/340. Fliion no need to jump ship yet, its only a matter of time before we start operating new launch and expansion routes to the US.

On that note... anyone else suspecting a possible announcement on the existing 300ER options at Farnborough?

[FlyingCroc]

Question to A380 pilots: Can the A380 fly nonstop to IAH full load?

[Marcellus Wallace]

Out of DXB 40C day 30L - about 60+ tons payload.

Out of IAH 38C day 33R - about 55+/- tons payload.

Using LAX fuel figures.

[glofish]

Bouhooooooooooh .... :{

This leaves us John Deere drivers some freighters for the distant US. You know, the IAH, ATL and then a SEA with some passengers and the 15 ton freight trucked up from LAX .......

It hurts my pride as much as the eye of every US citizen seeing more and more 380 on US airports, i freely admit.
But, as long as we fill the increased seats with more low fare passengers, as long as EK's final yield-percentage gets smaller every year and as long as we don't get compensated for real living cost and inflation every year, i will happily stay put, or even have to put my name on the dugong list, just like fliion.

Bouhoooooooooh .... :{

[FlyingCroc]

So is 60 tons payload a full load of pax in A380, sounds low?

[Emma Royds]

I can't really see what the fuss is about personally.

In time the 380 and the 777 will both be doing its fair share of turns, short trips and ULRs too.

It's the possibility of more fifth freedom routes, that could see Boeings sitting along side 380s at distant destinations for some time to come.

[Marcellus Wallace]

FlyingCroc

I'm sure you are smart enough to work it out yourself using standard M/F/C/I weights and standard Baggage allowance weights for F/J/Y.

:ok:

[Rim-job]

Flying Croc....

On a normal day, the A380 will take a full load of pax and cargo without any issues to the USA west coast. We do it now to LAX with plenty of room to spare. Sometimes up to 20-25 tons on MTOW to spare which could be used on fuel if wx conditions required.

IAH is about 1-2 hours longer then LAX (worse case) so the answer is yes, they can carry a full load. We will just have to use this spare 20-25 tones on additional fuel for increased flight time.

Having said that, if the wx is dodgy on arrival, which requires additional contingency, and you happen to be maxed out on that particular day, then yes, you "may" have to take a hit on payload. But that's no different then a B777. Couldn't tell you how many times thats happened to me over the years on the B777. Not a dig, just the way it is.

[fatbus]

EK would not put the 380 on the route if it could not take a full load of pax and bags. Children , it makes money, regardless of what the pilot experts blab on about the 777 and fuel burn and freight.

[Capn Rex Havoc]

fatbus - Did you leave the word 'not' out?

[J.L.Seagull]

Freudian slip! he he...

[fatbus]

Thanks,,,fixed