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spinex
10th Jun 2014, 07:07
I see there was something of an impromptu fly in at a paddock south of Gunnedah this morning - one of Tamworth's CT-4's apparently called mayday with some form of engine trouble and parked in quite a civilized looking cultivated field. By the time the fun was over it had been joined by a Cub looking type (Savage?) and a Westpac Rescue BK117, along with a throng of the state's finest in various vehicles.

There are persistent mutterings that the trouble was a little more serious than just the elastic running down - anyone know anything?
UPDATE: Aircraft incident at Gunnedah | Namoi Valley Independent (http://www.nvi.com.au/story/2341121/update-aircraft-incident-at-gunnedah/?cs=372#slide=8)

CoodaShooda
10th Jun 2014, 21:58
Another attempt to post the address of a not unreasonable attempt at an aviation story by a journo (http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/2343824/photos-rookie-pilot-in-mid-air-drama/?cs=157)

The buggers keep changing the link.

No mention of Cessnas, schools or kindegartens.

Although vague references to control restriction and steering suggest rudder problems - so probably not much fun for the crew.

VH-XXX
11th Jun 2014, 00:03
By the time the fun was over it had been joined by a Cub looking type (Savage?) and a Westpac Rescue BK117, along with a throng of the state's finest in various vehicles.

Plus a Jetranger it would seem. Quite a gathering for an engine out.

morno
11th Jun 2014, 00:10
Sorry, but this page doesn't exist.

I agree, that's the best any journo could write on an aviation incident, :E

missy
11th Jun 2014, 00:48
http://http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/2343824/photos-rookie-pilot-in-mid-air-drama/?cs=157 (http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/2343824/photos-rookie-pilot-in-mid-air-drama/?cs=157)
Correct link to the story.

Ascend Charlie
11th Jun 2014, 04:40
“The reason for it to land rectified upon landing, and it became functional again,” Inspector Johnson said.

The instructor's lunch box was retrieved from behind the controls, the sandwich was consumed, and all was well.

yr right
11th Jun 2014, 05:06
But wait the raaf have taken control of the investigation but yet it's a VH rego aircraft. Mmmm casa against raaf at 50 paces me thinks

peterc005
11th Jun 2014, 05:37
If there are no injuries and no damage I don't think CASA would care too much. I assume the licensing of the pilots and airframe maintenance are overseen by the RAAF.

Why the forced landing, sounds like the rudder cables or controls, which is unusual?

Horatio Leafblower
11th Jun 2014, 07:41
But wait the raaf have taken control of the investigation but yet it's a VH rego aircraft. Mmmm casa against raaf at 50 paces me thinks

I would expect that both the RAAF and BAe Systems will conduct their own investigations under their respective SMSs and/or contractor management systems as applicable.

CASA and ATSB will run investigations if required by their systems.

Gunnedah CWA may run an investigation or they may just do a risk assessment while judging the Sponges on Saturday morning.

No single entity has a monopoly on safety oversight. :hmm:

DBTW
11th Jun 2014, 11:24
Aircraft are considered state registered when operated by ADF personnel.

Jabawocky
11th Jun 2014, 12:53
DBTW said;
Aircraft are considered state registered when operated by ADF personnel.

And here endith the lesson.

:ok:

Game over.

tipsy2
11th Jun 2014, 12:58
"Aircraft are considered state registered when operated by ADF personnel."

What sort of aircrew licence is required to operate a civil registered/operated/maintained aircraft?

Bear in mind these particular aircraft are commanded inflight by both civil instructors and ADF instructors and students.

Hmmm!

Creampuff
12th Jun 2014, 05:12
The aircraft are “stavilian” aircraft.

They are ‘state aircraft’ when commanded by a member of the ADF (like a RAAF QFI), but not when commanded by a civilian instructor, and at the same time they are ‘Australian aircraft’ as a consequence of registration. See: the definitions of ‘Australian aircraft’ and ‘state aircraft’ in section 3 of the Civil Aviation Act.

A dog’s breakfast created around the late 90s. :D Before then a VH-registered aircraft was not a state aircraft, even if was of any part of the ADF and even if it was under the command of a member of the ADF in the course of duty.