Current Valid IR, for start of additional Type Rating.

[Bond]

Regarding the entry requirement, for an additional Type Rating, under the old regulations, it used to be something along the lines of:

An applicant for an initial Multi Pilot Type Rating must have a valid and current IR. However, if the applicant has already held a MPTR, then the currency of the IR is not required.

Can someone direct me to an appropriate reference, within the EASA regs.

Thanks, in advance.

[mad_jock]

this is a bone of contention with a few TRTO's

As such the rule hasn't changed but they have it in their pre-course requirements that you hold a valid IR at the time of starting the course. And as its in the manuals they stick to it.

quite why they are doing this nobody has quite worked out.

[BillieBob]

The relevant EASA requirement for entry to a first MPA type rating course is for the applicant to "hold a multi-engine IR(A)". In EASA-speak, 'current' and 'valid' mean the same thing and you do not 'hold' an IR unless it is valid.

For second and subsequent ratings it is only necessary to hold a multi-engine IR(A) for issue of the rating, not for entry to the course.

[mad_jock]

There are more than a few TRTO's including UK ones that don't have that interpretation.

I know 3 people personally who had to get expensive LPC's on an aircraft type that they were never going to fly again just to be allowed onto a type rating course.

One even used an extra ratings page in his license and forged a signature and then binned it after the course completion and then got the new rating issued because he was redundant and couldn't afford to get his MEP class rating & SPA IR back or a LPC on his previous type which was out by a month. If he hadn't done that he wouldn't have got the job.

Normally I would be very anti that sort of behaviour, but to get round stupid red tape I could understand why he did it even though technically he could get 5 years in prison for doing it.


Personally I agree with your interpretation Billiebob but there are quite a few TRTO's that don't and even if technically we are correct they have it in the TRTO's pre course requirements which a NAA approved and are stricter than required so therefore valid.

Which is I suspect the wall that has prompted the question from the OP.

[BillieBob]

It is hardly an 'interpretation'. FCL.720.A(f) quite clearly states, "An applicant for the issue of additional multi-pilot type ratings and single-pilot high performance complex aeroplanes type ratings shall hold a multi-engine IR(A)". Examples of ATOs setting non-compliant requirements should be appealed to the competent authority issuing the approval. I have, in the past, recommended this action to a number of candidates with considerable success.

[mad_jock]

Doesn't work when your potential employer is the TRTO.

As I said I no more that a couple that have fallen foul of this.