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ChrisVJ
28th Apr 2014, 17:27
Opened Yahoo this am to see this:

"Why this anti-crime activist is giving away shotguns

The man behind the Armed Citizen Project is pushing what he thinks is the best way to make neighbourhoods safer. 'Creating new, responsible gun owners' "



Offered without comment as I am neither pro nor anti guns.

500N
28th Apr 2014, 17:38
IMHO, going about it the wrong way unless he is doing some of the things I think are important for new gun owners like training in the firearm, safety, safety and safety, knowing the law etc.

Possibly leaves himself wide open to law suits if things go wrong ?

(And I am pro gun !)

And we don't need another pro gun / anti gun thread !!!

tony draper
28th Apr 2014, 17:53
I'll have a matched pair of Purdeys please.:rolleyes:

vulcanised
28th Apr 2014, 19:54
Sorry, there's only one available ;)

http://scottsautographs.tripod.com/tv/joannalumley.jpg

con-pilot
28th Apr 2014, 19:59
I'll have a matched pair of Purdeys please.

I as well please. :ok:

tony draper
28th Apr 2014, 20:01
One would be regarded as a cad and a bounder if one turned up at His Grace's shoot with just half a pair of Purdeys.
:rolleyes:
If you turned up with a 12 gauge pump they would set the dogs on you

Lonewolf_50
28th Apr 2014, 20:07
IMHO, going about it the wrong way unless he is doing some of the things I think are important for new gun owners like training in the firearm, safety, safety and safety, knowing the law etc.
My thinking as well.

con-pilot
28th Apr 2014, 20:13
Just down the street from the hotel my wife and I stay in Mayfair, there is/was a Purdey Shotgun shop. My wife used to have to physically drag me away from the front of the store, she wouldn't let me go inside. Quite unfair really, after all, I let her go into antique shops*. :{

Beautiful guns.



* Thank God we had small baggage compartments on the aircraft or God knows what she would have bought and tried to brought home. :\

tony draper
28th Apr 2014, 20:18
I think the protocol still is you put your new born son and heir's name down for Eton and order a pair of Purdeys for him at the same time.
:rolleyes:

Flash2001
28th Apr 2014, 21:13
And an H&H double .700 Nitro Express...

500N
28th Apr 2014, 21:16
Make it a 500 Nitro Express, much more manageable.

PTT
28th Apr 2014, 21:24
500NIMHO, going about it the wrong way unless he is doing some of the things I think are important for new gun owners like training in the firearm, safety, safety and safety, knowing the law etc.We are in full agreement here.

UniFoxOs
29th Apr 2014, 07:56
Offered without comment as I am neither pro nor anti guns.


but just wanted to start a new gun hamsterwheel?

500N
29th Apr 2014, 08:02
Uni

The thing is, it takes two to tango and I think neither want to tango at the moment :O

acbus1
29th Apr 2014, 08:02
I'll have a matched pair of Purdeys please.

Oh yessssss! Me too!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/12/article-0-00867AB900000258-479_468x540.jpg

Seldomfitforpurpose
29th Apr 2014, 08:45
IMHO, going about it the wrong way unless he is doing some of the things I think are important for new gun owners like training in the firearm, safety, safety and safety, knowing the law etc.



Absolutely, should be the minimum prerequisite for ownership :ok:

John Hill
29th Apr 2014, 08:52
Some say the world will not be safe until everyone has a gun and obviously the weaker members of society are in the most need.

I wonder what sort of gun I should get for my grand niece who is about to start at a establishment of learning in one of the rougher areas of town?

Krystal n chips
29th Apr 2014, 10:29
"Making the world safer".......I think Surrey's finest deserve a mention here.....read some of the excuses...... and what these cretins were doing at the time....:ugh:

BBC News - FaceTime video chat driver stopped by Surrey Police (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-27196621)

500N
29th Apr 2014, 10:59
John

Buy this one ;) :O If it was Black it would be dangerous ;)

WARNING: SERIOUSLY COOL PRODUCT ALERT!!

This pump-action water gun can shoot a stream of water up to eight and a half metres: impressive enough, but there is an added bonus to this particular model. The bottle-shaped water tank screws into place and the water gun is designed to accept almost any screw-top bottle, so the canny 'soldier' can have several filled bottles to hand during a water fight for quick and easy reloading, whilst others have to fiddle around with taps.
I bet you wished you took that WARNING more seriously now! Super cool we know :O

http://i60.tinypic.com/25rhyjl.jpg

rgbrock1
29th Apr 2014, 11:52
500N:

Areal killing machine that machine "gun" you posted a photo of. It would suit John Hill well.

However, JH, don't get any funny ideas about bringing it with you to Pyongyang, the next time you go, because that weapon would not go over very well with the Nork authorities. And may well leave you being fed to the dogs. :eek:

Lonewolf_50
29th Apr 2014, 13:28
For school purposes, John, your niece might only need some Mace in her purse. Depends on how "rough" rough is in Kiwiland.

500N
29th Apr 2014, 13:49
RGB

What about a "Flash Bang" or two as well ;)

While whoever is rolling around on the ground, stunned
she can give them a squirt with the Mace :O

rgbrock1
29th Apr 2014, 13:59
500N:

You pussy. A flash bang is always followed up with a double-tap to the forehead. The f*** with Mace! :}

onetrack
29th Apr 2014, 13:59
O.K. ... I'll raise one of my guns, to 5 of your shotguns, at 800 metres, and see how you go ... :)


http://oi61.tinypic.com/fc2mgp.jpg

rgbrock1
29th Apr 2014, 14:00
Oh my, onetrack, what a big.... gun ... you have. :}

500N
29th Apr 2014, 14:07
RGB

You are missing the point.

I am trying to suggest every weapon possible except a firearm ;) :O

tony draper
29th Apr 2014, 14:21
It made more evolutionary sense when men stood toe to toe and went at it with Sword Axe and Dagger, the stronger swifter man won(or the sneakiest) any weedy wimp can pull a trigger.
:rolleyes:

rgbrock1
29th Apr 2014, 14:33
onetrack:

I'll raise one of my guns to five of your long guns at 20km and see how you go...:O

http://s4.postimage.org/q2gtpkllp/1643008534_3229d9f6ce.jpg

superq7
29th Apr 2014, 14:42
How about this one RG ?

http://i59.tinypic.com/2v1mfzk.jpg

rgbrock1
29th Apr 2014, 14:44
superq:

If I'm not mistaken that was one of the German Wehrmacht's rail guns, no?

tony draper
29th Apr 2014, 14:46
That one had a poor fire rate,four hours per shot if I remember correctly,might have been more,
:rolleyes:

superq7
29th Apr 2014, 14:51
RG & Tony I haven't a clue what it is I just googled biggest gun !

rgbrock1
29th Apr 2014, 14:52
Depends on the railway gun, Tony.

If the photo which superq provided is of the Schwerer Gustav, that gun had a rate of fire of 1 round every 30 minutes or about 14 rounds per day. However, the gun itself is 31" caliber. :eek:

Now, prior to seeing the light and becoming an Infantryman, I was an Artilleryman. As such I got to play with various forms of howitzers. To include the self-propelled 8". Now I know what the 8" can do and what it sounds like during a fire mission. (Loud.) I cannot even conceive of what it would be like to be on the receiving end of a 31" round. Holy sheep shit Batman! :eek:

tony draper
29th Apr 2014, 14:57
I dont think the monster rail guns were ever a great success,to much time needed to transport set up and about 400 men needed to operate the bloody things.
:uhoh:

superq7
29th Apr 2014, 15:00
RG & Tony I've found a link,

Bigger Isn't Better: Germany's Doomed Love Affair with Big Guns During WWII - Guns.com (http://www.guns.com/2011/04/25/bigger-isnt-better-germanys-doomed-love-of-big-guns-during-wwii/)

tony draper
29th Apr 2014, 15:35
They are the kind of toy that appealed to the Kaiser and old Adolf.
:uhoh:

con-pilot
29th Apr 2014, 16:23
I've always wanted to know how they aimed those things.

Drive around on a rail track until then found a curve that pointed it in the right direction?

It seems to me, that if that rail gun only pointed/fired without changing the direction it is pointing, all it would do would be to making a big hole at the same spot.

Hell, even the French would figure out sooner or later not to stand around the area where those 31 inch shells kept landing. :p

tony draper
29th Apr 2014, 16:31
They seem like a kind of Siege gun,built for the kind of warfare that no longer existed.
:uhoh:

rgbrock1
29th Apr 2014, 17:02
con wrote:

It seems to me, that if that rail gun only pointed/fired without changing the direction it is pointing, all it would do would be to making a big hole at the same spot.

The problem arose, con, when you and other members of your unit were standing in the general area of where those 31" shells landed. :eek:

The only gun I know of which came close to something like that in the "crap in your pants" department is the M270 MLRS.

http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/l-3_nav_sat/1_MLRS_M270.jpg

ROF: 12 rockets in 40 seconds Each rocket being 9" caliber. :eek:
Or
2 missiles in 10 seconds :eek::eek:

EFR: 40 miles (Peek-a-boo, I see you. But you can't see me.)

ChrisVJ
29th Apr 2014, 17:20
Looks to me as though that top section has at least some swivel action. Maybe limited by the need to absorb the recoil though.

rgbrock1
29th Apr 2014, 17:32
ChrisVJ:

I was thinking the same thing as I'm sure the recoil on that piece of hardware was awe-inspiring. :eek:

airship
29th Apr 2014, 18:47
Yeah! Everyone who posted here should be expected to collect their kids from school personally. Having printed the whole thread and providing this to the school authorities before being allowed access to their own (or anyone else's kids)...?! :uhoh:

500N
29th Apr 2014, 18:56
airship

On what basis ?

airship
29th Apr 2014, 19:06
Have you seen some of the photos previously posted...?! :confused:

500N
29th Apr 2014, 19:23
Yes, what is wrong with them ?

We started out with the best looking Purdey you ever saw.
Progressed to a Seriously Cool Water Pistol :O
Then to (from memory) the Anzio 20mm Anti Material Bolt action rifle
Then to some big 155mm "Drop shorts" ;) :O
Then to the MLRS

I think the collective term is "boys and toys" ? :O


So a bit of thread drift ???? :p

John Hill
29th Apr 2014, 19:28
Lonewolf wrote (quote)For school purposes, John, your niece might only need some Mace in her purse. Depends on how "rough" rough is in Kiwiland.(/quote)

Just because she is a girl you think she should not have a gun? I thought the idea was that we will never be free until everyone has gun.:ooh:

500N
29th Apr 2014, 19:29
John
I thought we were trying to NOT have another gun thread ?

Solid Rust Twotter
30th Apr 2014, 04:28
...I'm sure the recoil on that piece of hardware was awe-inspiring.


Rocket driven missiles are usually launched from a vented tube as you know, Mr Rock. Shouldn't have much recoil at all.

This is the business...

http://www.omaninfo.com/resources/rao.jpg

rgbrock1
30th Apr 2014, 12:09
SRT:

What dat?

Not only rocket-driven missiles are launched from a vented tube, sir. The M109 self-propelled howitzer, for example, uses a vented tube where the gasses are vented rearwards after yanking ye old lanyard. Ditto for the M110 8" SP Howitzer, as shown below.

http://warmemorials.us/images/artillery/m110-camp_douglas_left_front.jpg

sitigeltfel
30th Apr 2014, 12:22
You probably won't find one of these down at your VW dealer...

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/sitigeltfel/Touraeg.jpg (http://s231.photobucket.com/user/sitigeltfel/media/Touraeg.jpg.html)

TWT
30th Apr 2014, 12:39
Speaking of VW's,this will do me :E (not the Bug)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/GAU-8_meets_VW_Type_1.jpg/800px-GAU-8_meets_VW_Type_1.jpg


P.S. I'd love to have one pointed down my driveway to discourage unwelcome visitors ;)
mmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmm
mmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

acbus1
30th Apr 2014, 13:54
Now that's how to discourage tailgaters. :E

Flash2001
30th Apr 2014, 15:32
They used to build a curved siding for railroad guns with enough curvature to cover the arc of interest.

After an excellent landing etc...

Solid Rust Twotter
2nd May 2014, 17:10
Quite so, Mr Rock. One's comments were in response to your mention of need for a base to absorb recoil from what appears to be a MRL.


Dat am de mighty G-6, in answer to your question. Mobile version of the G-5 artillery piece. Dashed fine bang it makes too...:ok:

Lonewolf_50
2nd May 2014, 18:18
Just because she is a girl you think she should not have a gun? I thought the idea was that we will never be free until everyone has gun.:ooh: This post shows no evidence of thought.

rgbrock1
2nd May 2014, 20:19
LW50:

And that surprises you? :}

Lightning Mate
3rd May 2014, 10:31
Firing these four together was hooligan fun:


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Lightning_29154/Adenpack_zpsa75481f6.jpg

tony draper
3rd May 2014, 10:43
Size doesn't always count,make sure you have your tin hat on when you break the cap on this buggah,The Davy Crocket.
Spoil yer day this would.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/Deaddogbay/200px-DavyCrockettBomb_zpsa7f2ff22.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/Deaddogbay/media/200px-DavyCrockettBomb_zpsa7f2ff22.jpg.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiM-RzPHyGs&hd=1