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Cacophonix
24th Apr 2014, 15:23
I don't know Canada that well but the little I have seen of it I like...

Still I am bemused and amused that any of the good burghers of Toronto would consider voting for Mr Ford...

Ford’s improprieties as mayor of Toronto are well documented – the crack-smoking (http://www.poynter.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/torontostar-11062013.jpg), the alleged family ties (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/globe-investigation-the-ford-familys-history-with-drug-dealing/article12153014/?page=all) to drug dealing, the inebriated rages (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/07/mayor_rob_ford_caught_in_video_rant.html), the vulgar remarks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4siKr6qY8w), knocking down (http://youtu.be/SsHpRDuuCok) councilwoman Pam McConnell – yet to the befuddlement of many, he has maintained his popularity (http://www.cp24.com/news/ford/poll-ford-s-popularity-strong-despite-scandal-1.1599466). He could even win again (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/how-toronto-mayor-rob-ford-could-win-again-1.2614581).

What The Simpsons teaches us about Rob Ford and other mayoral mysteries | Cities | theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/apr/24/what-the-simpsons-quimby-teaches-us-about-rob-ford-other-mayors)

Is this because the Canucks have a perverse sense of humour (a bit like my own), a love for the outlaw or is it just because the other options for Mayor are worse...?

Caco

newfieboy
24th Apr 2014, 15:36
Yes to all three.......
Newfie.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
24th Apr 2014, 15:46
+1

In terms of managing Toronto, Rob Ford seems to do a better job than his opponents would. Much else is therefore forgivable, even if it isn't forgettable.
Same probably applies to Stephen Harper. Ultimately, this is why they are both still in power, and why our economy isn't a basket case.

Contrast Rob Ford with the Mayor of Mississauga next door. Hazel McCallion is 93 years old, and has been in power since 1978. Due to her popularity, she does not campaign during elections and refuses to accept political donations, instead asking her supporters to donate the money to charity. It's hard to imagine a bigger contrast, but they both get the job done and that's what matters.

Flash2001
24th Apr 2014, 15:46
See Bill Hawrelak!

After a mediocre landing you can still be re-elected!

Cacophonix
24th Apr 2014, 15:58
Quimby for Mayor of Springfield - YouTube

Old Quimby is no slouch either...! ;)

Caco

Fox3WheresMyBanana
24th Apr 2014, 16:00
By the way, linked to from the Guardian article is a report showing that 3 Canadian cities are the top rated for resilience worldwide, with Toronto at #1.
Reading the full report
http://www.grosvenor.com/Grosvenor/files/19/194bb2f9-d778-4701-a0ed-5cb451044ab1.pdf
shows that these were the only 3 cities in Canada surveyed. I strongly expect that if they had covered 10 Canadian cities, they might well fill the top 10.

er340790
24th Apr 2014, 17:04
Yep - he'd get my vote.

Give me a straight-talking maverick who delivers on lower taxes any day...

That's really why the 'tax & spend' bunch loathe him so much...

And his perpetual giving them the finger helps too. :}

pigboat
24th Apr 2014, 18:13
I think the guy could use a few sessions in a good detox center, but Ford would get my vote for two reasons. One because he's delivered on his promise to rein in the tax and spend policies of the previous administration. Second, he causes the silk stocking socialists in downtown Toronto to tear their hair, grind their teeth and froth at the mouth in frustration at having defied Pravda and remain on the job after all their best efforts to unseat him.

con-pilot
24th Apr 2014, 19:28
Remove Rob Ford and all the late night TV comedians in the US would be out of work.

Hell, I'd vote him, fat men need to have fun just as anyone else. :p

Dushan
24th Apr 2014, 20:43
He saves me money. He keeps the lefties at bay.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh162/dushan_divjak/IMG_00000147_zps977b0faf.jpg

Cacophonix
24th Apr 2014, 20:57
Dushan but I thought you were running for mayor! Go to it man, Toronto expects! ;)

Caco

Dushan
24th Apr 2014, 21:08
I am busy. PPRuNe-ing is a full-time job

West Coast
24th Apr 2014, 23:03
Dushan

Somehow it just seems the sticker should be much larger.

chuks
25th Apr 2014, 06:32
Are there no Canadians in Toronto who both lack substance-abuse issues and are willing to run for Mayor?

This Ford fellow is fun to watch, but he's nuts! Last time I checked, crack cocaine rewires your brain to make you somewhat irrational, when that's exactly the sort of behavior Ford exhibits.

There must be some other right-wing candidate you could find to replace this one. Do that, and then go after this Ford fellow with a tranquilizer dart gun and a net, box him up (don't forget the air holes), and ship him off to the Betty Ford Clinic.

On behalf of all US Americans, I want to apologize for the way we always made fun of Canada for being a smaller, cleaner, but saner and thus more boring version, of the States. Okay, you have proven beyond doubt that you Canadians can still do "crazy" in the style of the Mad Trapper, but enough is enough!

acbus1
25th Apr 2014, 08:28
How is Ford any different from the vast majority of all politicians?

What we really need are some North Korean style incentives to perform. :E

FlyMD
25th Apr 2014, 09:14
A true god-fearing role-model with family values, this guy... The canadian answer to Sarah Palin! No wonder the RWS got an immediate boner for him :ok:

brickhistory
25th Apr 2014, 18:35
I think you will find his fairly efficient running of Toronto along with lowering taxes while doing so, which has kept the city booming, a major reason for his support.

Not Canadian so no vote or opinion on the subject that matters, but, as noted before, the fact that he has the socialists in tears is reason enough to support him.

As to your cheap shot of Mrs. Palin, I would've expected nothing better or original.

A looker, a leader, and she can shoot game and catch fish. I'm a fan.

eastern wiseguy
25th Apr 2014, 20:05
A looker, a leader, and she can shoot game and catch fish.

And a hypocritcal dim witted quitter....still ,no accounting for taste :)

Cacophonix
26th Apr 2014, 00:35
Damn it. I'd vote for Ford.

Good to see the whole Ring Wing thing out here...

Respect fellahs... We may not always agree but we sure do need you...:ok:

Caco

Dushan
26th Apr 2014, 02:05
Oh, oh. "Respect fellas". So early in the evenig. I see the ban hammer swinging.

Dushan
13th Sep 2014, 00:58
Rob Ford withdraws from mayor?s race, Doug files to take his place | Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/toronto2014election/2014/09/12/rob_ford_withdraws_replaced_on_mayor_ballot_by_doug.html)

Cacophonix
13th Sep 2014, 06:18
Hope Mr Ford gets well soon!

Caco

Lon More
13th Sep 2014, 09:35
Ford, Toronto's Boris. Probably as big a liability in the long run.

RatherBeFlying
13th Sep 2014, 14:20
Toronto is a forced marriage between the transit-dependent downtown and the car-dependent suburbs. Each side takes turns getting raped by the other.

The first Megacity mayor, Mel Lastman from the suburbs became known as the Clown Mayor:} but his antics have been surpassed by Ford:eek:

Miller was mayor between the two and came from downtown. He provided an interregnum of adult management.

As for taxes, Ford is hot for subways where LRT would be a perfectly fine job of getting rapid transit to the distant suburbs which have become poverty islands along the arterial roads where apartment buildings are filled with the poor.

Subways are ferociously expensive; so with available funds, you can put in an LRT network in something like a decade -- or run a few miles of subway to nowhere that is hardly used as did Mayor Lastman:rolleyes:

The gridlock will continue:}

Background aside, the recent campaign roulette looks to take votes from Tory, the perennial unelected candidate and nice guy.

We will have to wait for the poll numbers, but I suspect Doug Ford will do well;)

Dushan
13th Sep 2014, 15:04
Toronto is a forced marriage between the transit-dependent downtown and the car-dependent suburbs. Each side takes turns getting raped by the other.

The first Megacity mayor, Mel Lastman from the suburbs became known as the Clown Mayor:} but his antics have been surpassed by Ford:eek:

Miller was mayor between the two and came from downtown. He provided an interregnum of adult management.
Introducing leftie hair-brained ideas like shopping bag fees and raising taxes. A true limousine liberal.

As for taxes, Ford is hot for subways where LRT would be a perfectly fine job of getting rapid transit to the distant suburbs which have become poverty islands along the arterial roads where apartment buildings are filled with the poor.
Maybe you haven't noticed, as you would rather be flying, but when we get even a little bit of snow streetcars, LRTs, open sections of subway , and GO trains come to a screeching halt. And you want more of that? An efficient transit system is buried underground.

Subways are ferociously expensive; so with available funds, you can put in an LRT network in something like a decade -- or run a few miles of subway to nowhere that is hardly used as did Mayor Lastman:rolleyes:

The gridlock will continue:}

Background aside, the recent campaign roulette looks to take votes from Tory, the perennial unelected candidate and nice guy.

We will have to wait for the poll numbers, but I suspect Doug Ford will do well;)

I am sure Doug will get a minor spike, but in the end I don't think he is as liked as Rob, warts and all.

RatherBeFlying
13th Sep 2014, 19:28
Maybe you haven't noticed, as you would rather be flying, but when we get even a little bit of snow streetcars, LRTs, open sections of subway , and GO trains come to a screeching halt. And you want more of that? An efficient transit system is buried underground. When it snows in Toronto, the stuff on rails does better than the stuff on tires. The streetcars have sand dispensers to give grip to the wheels. At the turnarounds, you will sometimes see the driver dump a bucket full into the hopper. Common technique with most stuff on rails.

GO does seem to have a problem with switches icing up, don't know if they have it under control.

The driving just gets more and more miserable.

But I ain't going back :ok:

Dushan
13th Sep 2014, 19:40
Yes, driving gets more and more miserable, mostly because of poor driver education, arrogant pedestrians and cyclists, and police who only enforce the law when easy and collects huge amounts of cash rather than encourages safety.

Streetcars use sand in order to be able to brake. It has nothing to do with snow and ice. Having a dedicated lane obstructed with an immovable object while people traverse the only remaining lane to embark is stupidity of the highest order. Mass transit needs to be underground where it is not obstructing traffic and is not influenced by weather.

meadowrun
13th Sep 2014, 19:57
Yups, much better with skytrain - goes high and under. Only get affected by ice, snow (tiny bits), computer glitches, management incompetents, lack of parking...otherwise, quite nice. You get the odd good view.


http://www.heelpain.ca/skytrain.jpg

Turbine D
14th Sep 2014, 00:43
Dushan,
Been lurking for quite awhile, but this really got my attention:
Mass transit needs to be underground where it is not obstructing traffic and is not influenced by weather.
As being the most prolific and influential conservative on PPruNe, you are advocating for this?
New subway (metro) systems cost nearly 9 times as much as light rail. That is to say, $85 million for light rail per mile, times 9 for subterranean rail, in US $s, more in Canadian $s. Are you ready to open your wallet (moths fluttering out) to pay for it?:p
and police who only enforce the law when easy and collects huge amounts of cash rather than encourages safety.
Where was Ron Ford when you needed him?:E

Dushan
14th Sep 2014, 02:43
No, I am not advocating for mass transit. All I am saying is than if you are going to build it then build it wher it actually works and does not interfere with my driving. As for paying for it, it should be paid for by the users, not me, who does not use it.

Who is Ron Ford?

Dushan
28th Oct 2014, 00:55
Rob Ford was elected councillor in Ward 2, his old ward. Doug Ford lost the race for the Mayor.

John Tory is the new Mayor.

Olivia Chow, the communist, is distant third.