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John Hill
3rd Apr 2014, 20:10
Afghans go to the polls on Saturday to elect their second president of the new era while international forces pull out and suicide bombings are a frequent event even in well guarded areas of Kabul.

I expect their next president will face almost immediate problems both internal and external as the Taliban seek to recover their lost position and neighbouring countries strive for positions of advantage. I also expect the western media will largely ignore Afghanistan for some time.

500N
3rd Apr 2014, 20:15
One of our - Australia - retiring Generals described Karzai as "He says that he's been a prickly customer to deal with over the years !!!" :O


Karzai has timed it well, money from the US isn't flowing quite a much,
he's reaped as much as he can, now he can retire overseas a very rich man and live off the bank accounts !!!

Lonewolf_50
3rd Apr 2014, 20:19
I expect their next president will face almost immediate problems both internal and external as the Taliban seek to recover their lost position and neighbouring countries strive for positions of advantage. I also expect the western media will largely ignore Afghanistan for some time.
1. All presidents face problems. It's in the nature of the job.
2 "Western Media" will cover what sells, or what gets people paying attention to their story, not another's story.

Been like that for a while.

3. Afghanistan poppy production will continue at present levels, or increase. It's an ill wind as blows nobody any good. :cool: Drug addicts the world over will ensure that this cash crop is profitable for decades to come.

con-pilot
3rd Apr 2014, 20:38
I also expect the western media will largely ignore Afghanistan for some time.

Much like the media in the US is completely ignoring Syria. You are spot on for the rest as well.

Mr Chips
3rd Apr 2014, 20:40
At least they get a proper vote...I assume there is more than one name on the ballot paper?

500N
3rd Apr 2014, 20:41
Much like the media in the US is completely ignoring Syria.

Is that because Obama got egg on his face and they don't want it to happen again ;) :O

John Hill
3rd Apr 2014, 20:46
Afghanistan poppy production will continue at present levels, or increase.

It already seems to be doing quite well..


Since the US came down on the Taliban and occupied Afghanistan in 2001, heroin production in the country has surged almost 40-fold. One year ago the estimated number of heroin addicts dying due to Afghan heroin in the preceding decade surpassed well over one million deaths worldwide.

Last year, Afghanistan harvested a record quantity of opium. The annual report of the International Narcotics Control Board maintains that Afghan poppy fields now occupy a record 209,000 hectares, a 36 percent increase from 2013.

Today more than half of the provinces in Afghanistan are growing opium poppies. Reports say Afghanistan is responsible for production of around 80 percent of the world's opium and heroin.
http://rt.com/news/afghanistan-election-drugs-production-753/

Some, much, most(?) of the Afghan produced opium goes to Russia and causes misery and death there which may bring joy to others. Maybe Putin will have a go at cleaning the place up.

John Hill
3rd Apr 2014, 20:47
Is that because Obama got egg on his face and they don't want it to happen again

Syria and Ukraine, just how much egg is available?

500N
3rd Apr 2014, 20:51
With Obama, no end to how much he could produce.

He is so arrogant and thinks he knows but he got egged because of Syria
but didn't learn and now the same because of Ukraine.


Rule No 1 Don't make a threat / promise you can't carry out, especially if the other side knows it !!! Better to keep your mouth shut or at least tone down the rhetoric !

Just my HO.

ettore
3rd Apr 2014, 20:57
Eight candidates in the 1st round. Around 750 voting centres among 6'400 won't open due to insecurity.
Voter registration subject to fraud. To which extend remains unknown. Widely publized, massive frauds took place in 2009 (and made Karzai's 2nd term possible) up to the point that his main contender, Abdullah Abdullah, gave up the fight between the 1st and 2nd round. Add to this that the most extremist Taleban sub-groups are decided to derail the process at any cost (human lifes) and there is not much left of democracy in such a medieval, deeply conservative and warlords-mafia bosses controlled society. 2013 security incidents of all kinds are up 60% compared to 2008. Amen.
PS : Obama is certainly well inspired to pull out the boys Bush sent in...

John Hill
3rd Apr 2014, 22:54
Obama is certainly well inspired to pull out the boys Bush sent in...

I am sure it must be Obama's fault that they failed to do whatever it was Bush sent them to do.

ricardian
3rd Apr 2014, 23:17
No doubt in a few hundred years time Afghanistan will have arrived at the 20th century

pigboat
4th Apr 2014, 01:56
Much like the media in the US is completely ignoring Syria.
And let's not mention Venezuela. Dunno about the rest of the world, but in Canada one must really dig for the latest information on that socialist paradise.

John Hill
4th Apr 2014, 02:08
That is not restricted to Canada as I dont recall watching or reading anything about Venezuela from our news services in some time.