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Cacophonix
28th Mar 2014, 02:31
As I sit here I have a Stetson siting on the crest of the globe that adorns my desk.

It was bought for me by a slow talking, fast thinking guy from Milwaukee in Dallas well nigh on 17 years ago. I wore it with no reproach for the 6 months that I lived in Dallas but have only worn it once here in England. The insults from building sites brought me into physical conflict and I guessed it wasn't culturally apposite...

But why...?

What of Fedoras, Bowler hats...? Even the wonderful Fez seen by me not six days ago as the poor Harlequins were overrun by those bloody Saracens...

Bugger them ...:-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiMtIcVc6ZE


Do you wear a hat...?

Caco

Pinky the pilot
28th Mar 2014, 02:45
Yes, an Aussie Akubra.:ok:

Would post a link to them if I knew how.:O

Cacophonix
28th Mar 2014, 02:47
Safety Dance - Men Without Hats Official Video - YouTube

:ok:

Caco

500N
28th Mar 2014, 02:56
Depending on what I am doing

Aussie Akubra

Basball type cap of various types.

Pinky the pilot
28th Mar 2014, 03:01
Baseball type cap of various types.

That's where you and I part company, 500N.
Maybe it's just me but I have an aversion to those. Just won't wear one. Ever!

How are ya btw?

500N
28th Mar 2014, 03:16
Pinky

I rarely, very rarely where one in the street, most of the baseball type caps I wear are when out hunting, be it an orange one or a camo one.

Someone (a mate) even suggested I wear it backwards earlier this year, you should have seen the look i gave him with the words "I wouldn't be seen dead wearing it backwards, even out here where no one can see me" :O
He laughed - and agreed !!!

Solid Rust Twotter
28th Mar 2014, 05:39
Nope.

But these guys make some good kit...


Rogue Outdoor Gear (http://www.rogue.co.za)

mattpilot
28th Mar 2014, 07:24
http://www.daylol.com/images/2012/July/30/5016553f0f683.jpg

Ascend Charlie
28th Mar 2014, 07:53
In Oz, it is compulsory for drivers over 70 to wear a hat. It enable other drivers behind them to see that an old coot is driving and to contain their road rage.

Often I have to lean out of the car and yell "WHERE'S YA BLUDDY HAT???!!" at another driver.:8

500N
28th Mar 2014, 07:56
Ascend

Very good.

:ok:

Metro man
28th Mar 2014, 08:27
Yes, an Aussie Akubra.

Would post a link to them if I knew how.


Akubra - Iconic Australian Hats - Authentic Quality (http://www.akubra.com.au)

John Hill
28th Mar 2014, 08:37
A pakol if the weather is a bit cool.

Blues&twos
28th Mar 2014, 08:55
Unfortunately, following an eye injury I am more affected by overhead glare than before, so I wear a baseball cap, which does the job superbly.
Sorry Pinky! :O

dubbleyew eight
28th Mar 2014, 08:55
on the top of my globe is a "Propper" boonie hat, sun and hot weather.

known in australia as a giggle hat.
Hats, giggle, ha ha, ridiculous ....for the use of troops.

hey cacho, a music question.
there is a fantastic electric guitar solo from the 70's I think called "Voyage to Venus".

it is a fantastic electric guitar piece that is supposedly a musical interpretation of a rocket blasting off from earth and travelling to venus. right at the end there is a little kids voice asking "are we there yet".

any idea who played it? I've heard it just 3 times in my life and I've been trying to track down a copy ever since the last time. probes reckoned you'd know.

Flypro
28th Mar 2014, 08:58
Ascend,

The car driving "Prat in a hat" also applies to yoof's wearing baseball caps arse about face and little old ladies with all sorts of rubbish on their heads.

I have found however, that as I get more and more follicly challenged I I'm needing a hat to keep the sun off (what in UK I hear you say?!!):)

Blues&twos
28th Mar 2014, 09:00
Does anyone here wear a crown?

MagnusP
28th Mar 2014, 09:04
There are one or two who wear wigs (not the "no, I'm not really bald" variety).

Cold weather, I wear a fleece beanie, or a cashmere one for posh.

tony draper
28th Mar 2014, 09:22
I like hats they made a chap look smart and one could doff em when meeting ladies and such,makes no difference nowadays of course when blokes and women all dress like they are about to guide a pair of mules and a plough around a muddy turnip field or hump a sack of rice along the Ho Ci Minh trail for eight hours.
:uhoh:

Lon More
28th Mar 2014, 09:33
Guinness slouch hat, keeps the sun and flies away

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/GUINNESS-AUSSIE-CORK-SLOUCH-HAT-HANGING-PINTS-NOT-CORKS-AUSTRALIAN-PUB-HOME-BAR-/00/s/MTE0OVgxNjAw/z/P8gAAOxyg6BR0tZN/$(KGrHqV,!ocFG6FoCPw8BR0tZNm7t!~~60_35.JPG

Ancient Mariner
28th Mar 2014, 09:35
I use a Stetson Rutherford Vitafelt, never leave the house without it firmly on me dome. It is crushable and water repellent. Perfect for our Viking climate.
Not in the present Stetson collection, but looks like this,
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/perebs/products1052_big_zpsbe751131.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/perebs/media/products1052_big_zpsbe751131.jpg.html)
Per

Artie Fufkin
28th Mar 2014, 09:46
... I have a Stetson ... have only worn it once here in England. The insults from building sites brought me into physical conflict and I guessed it wasn't culturally apposite...

Thank you for brightening my morning, I haven't laughed so much for a long time. Being surprised by the response from UK brickies at someone walking down the street in a Stetson suggests you're not a native?

Groundgripper
28th Mar 2014, 10:08
I did once get a comment to the effect "you look a right f:mad:ing idiot in that hat" when I wore my Braham leather hat down to the shops one morning.

My response of "at least I have to wear a hat to achieve that effect, you only have to open your mouth" was sufficient to deter further conversation.:)

GG

The SSK
28th Mar 2014, 10:25
I have a hat which is made by Stetson but is a regular hat-shaped hat.

Have scarcely been able to wear it this winter, it's baan too windy.

Also got one for Summer wear, bought in Portugal. You'd think it was soft tan leather but it's actually made of cork.

Mrs SSK is determined to get me into a cloth cap. She claims I'm developing a bald spot but I've never seen it.

teeteringhead
28th Mar 2014, 10:30
JENKS mon brave.

A beret when you were neither a Rock nor an SH mate! Tut tut.

And do remind me - what headgear did you sport with the ponytail/dishdash ensemble that ISTR???

Keep up the good (unconventional) stance. A few years ago when one had to go to a family funeral in North Britain, one travelled directly from London where one was working - an MoD tour. :( Son-and-heir briefed the obscure Scottish cousin who was to pick me up on what to look for.....

"He looks rather like a portly Bruce Grobelaar (I did say it was a few years ago) and will almost certainly be wearing a big black hat."

Picked me out of the crowd in one! :ok:

Shaggy Sheep Driver
28th Mar 2014, 10:36
Re: baseball caps on backwards. They wear 'em that way round to stop their necks getting any redder. :}

pr00ne
28th Mar 2014, 10:36
Hats?

What is point?

Bloody pointless useless affectations. Hated them while in the military and haven't worn one since leaving. Most men look utterly ridiculous wearing them.

Worrals in the wilds
28th Mar 2014, 10:54
A hard hat, from time to time. The last word in style and elegance:}, which is why politicians love them so much.
IME when wearing one you actually hit your head more often until you get used to them, due to the hat making you a few inches taller :ouch:.

Otherwise, a baseball cap for general outdoor stuff, akubra if out bush or in the sun for a long time.

G-SCUD
28th Mar 2014, 11:05
Just replaced my 25-year old Panama. Still keeping the old one for the garden though!

Limeygal
28th Mar 2014, 11:07
I will never wear a hat again. I have spent the majority of my life wearing the bloody things, school, military, airlines, etc. and I look a complete plonker in them. I like them on other people, they can look very stylish. What is the deal these days with NOT taking a hat off indoors? I find it's very rude when I see men wearing ball caps inside. Bunch of crackers. I think the turning the hat around the wrong way comes from watching too many WWII submarine films :)

sitigeltfel
28th Mar 2014, 11:19
Man eats his hat after losing bet...

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A Bitcoin enthusiast films himself eating an entire a cotton hat after losing a bet that the price of the digital currency would not fall below $1,000

The idiom "I'll eat my hat" is usually reserved as an expression of disbelief. But one man has taken things to the extreme after losing a bet.

The man, known only as "Hat Eater", has filmed himself eating his way through an entire cotton beanie hat. It follows his misplaced prediction that the value of Bitcoin would not fall below $1,000 (602), after the digital currency continues to be hit by exchange closures.

The stunt gained notoreity after the video was originally posted on social networking site Reddit on Thursday. Since then, many of the people on the site have expressed serious concern for the man's health.

The outrageous feat, which was undertaken in three stages, shows the man cutting up his hat into tiny squares before he stuffs the fabric into sandwiches and even washes it down with beer.

Painfully swallowing his last shred of hat, he holds up a badge and declares: "I'm saving that".

Mechta
28th Mar 2014, 11:21
In the UK, hat wearers are automatically associated with wearers of the same in films & TV. Britain being Britain, the wearer is ridiculed by association.

Trilby - Arthur Daley
Bowler - Captain Mainwaring
Beanie - Benny from Crossroads
Stetson - YMCA, JR Ewing, Brokeback Mountain
Flat Cap - Last of the Summer Wine
Deerstalker - Sherlock Holmes
Fedora - Freddie Kreuger
Beret - Frank Spencer
Hard hat - YMCA again
Baseball cap - Wayne's World

Any I've missed?


My own hat, which does a grand job of keeping the bonce warm on the bike, attracts calls of "Smurf" and "It's Noddy" when passing the smoker's gallery on the way to the bike shed at work.

Flypro
28th Mar 2014, 11:21
Limeygal,

Couldn't agree more.
I was always taught that it is very bad manners for a man to wear a hat indoors. Women are allowed, but men? NEVER!

It makes me think how poorly they were 'brung up' by their parents :eek:

603DX
28th Mar 2014, 11:47
Yes, I have a hat or two in my wardrobe, for wear on rare occasions. A Panama, for warm summer days to go with the blazer or the linen jacket, which provides shade and "coolth" with a bit of style. A "little flat cap" (as the late Tony Benn used to call them) for wet/windy weather, and a red baseball cap for airshows. That was a gift from a good friend with whom I often attend an airshow, who felt I ought to blend in with the crowds around us. I never wear it anywhere else, it just feels wrong.

Years ago when working on site survey trips in hot countries I was provided with a white beanie by my wife, who had lovingly sewn on one of those little brown teddy bears. That marked me out for the Delhi street urchins as a mad Englishman, probably rich and worth pestering for money. The barefoot ragamuffins in East Africa also seemed fascinated by the "beary beanie", with similar misconceptions regarding my imagined wealth and generosity. I sometimes took a quick snap of these noisy "Pied Piper" incidents, my wife liked seeing the magical effects of her handiwork when I got home.

For both my daughter's weddings, they wanted the full top-hat-and-tails works, so I did my fatherly duty and sheepishly put on the traditional headgear of "Lord Snooty" in the Beano comics of my youth. Not to be repeated, I felt a complete prat and imposter, and anyway I have now run out of daughters ... :O

Tankertrashnav
28th Mar 2014, 11:52
Was in a church in London a while back and a man in the pew in front of me was wearing a hat. I thought about nudging him and telling him he'd forgotten to remove it, but decided against it.

Good decision - at some point in the proceedings he got up and went to the front to do one of the Bible readings - still wearing his hat!

Things have changed since I were a lad!

Love hats, by the way - got a Panama, stetson thingy and a flat brown corduroy cap for everyday use. As for baseball caps - any man over 50 seen wearing one should be subject to immediate arrest (except possibly at air-shows, 603DX!)

sitigeltfel
28th Mar 2014, 11:54
Just replaced my 25-year old Panama. Still keeping the old one for the garden though!

I use the cheap disposable paper ones and just chuck them away when they get sweaty/grubby.

rgbrock1
28th Mar 2014, 12:04
I wear a hat all the time when outdoors. (Keeps the ticks at bay!)

My hat collection consists of one baseball-style cap:

http://www.hiarmymuseumsoc.org/store/images/Museum%20Store%20801.JPG

And one Stetson-style hat:

http://usarmy.vo.llnwd.net/e2/c/images/2011/06/16/201174/size0.jpg

500N
28th Mar 2014, 12:11
RGB

YMCA does spring to mind :O



On "Flat Caps", becoming more popular here in Aus but only a few I know actually look good in them.

rgbrock1
28th Mar 2014, 12:14
YMCA comes to mind, 500N? You really do need to get out more. :}:E

Ancient Mariner
28th Mar 2014, 12:37
Rgbrock, is that a Caltex cap? I have several that looks almost the same in my collection.
Per

rgbrock1
28th Mar 2014, 12:49
Ancient:

If you're referring to the Ranger hat no, it is not a Caltex cap. It's actually made in China (what a kick in the ass that is) as opposed to Caltex which is, I believe, made in Australia? (You know, Australia, that country just south of Germany?)

Ancient Mariner
28th Mar 2014, 13:12
Damnation, Rgbrock, I was expecting a much harsher reply.
Shirley you mean the country as much to the east as south of Germany? The one with the kangoroos and cuckoo clocks?
Per

500N
28th Mar 2014, 13:14
I thought that Ranger cap looked like one from the kids game ;)

Solid Rust Twotter
28th Mar 2014, 13:36
Goes with the tutu.

rgbrock1
28th Mar 2014, 13:38
Ancient,

Yes, that country. I demoted Australia to south of Germany in order to wind up 500N. It's one of my favorite past times. He was an officer in the Australian boy scouts you see. :}:}:}

Ah. As expected I see SRT has chimed in as well.

See, Ancient, not only was 500N a member of the officer corp of the Australian Boy Scouts but, on the other hand, we had SRT who was a member of the South African Girl Scouts who often went on Safari, stalking the wild boar. (Bringing new meaning to "stalking")

500N
28th Mar 2014, 13:44
RGB

Yes, I noticed your wind up, decided to duck that one ! :O

:ok:


Got to watch you ;)

MagnusP
28th Mar 2014, 14:20
South African Girl Scouts who often went on Safari, stalking the wild Boer.

Fixed it for ya. No charge this time.

Solid Rust Twotter
28th Mar 2014, 14:27
...a member of the South African Girl Scouts...


Fewer tutus there than among the rangers even so.:}

rgbrock1
28th Mar 2014, 14:27
Tricky Magnus, very tricky. :}

Smeagol
28th Mar 2014, 14:41
Love hats, got lots, wear different ones depending on what activity I am doing, weather conditions etc.

Flat caps - general leisure when cold, windy or raining - cap to match clothes
Leather 'Aussie' style (as describes by threadstarter) - heavy rain
Baseball caps - playing golf in fair weather
Woolly 'bobble' hat - playing golf in v cold weather
Wide brimmed 'straw' type - playing golf in very sunny (but not windy) climes
Hard hat (general type) - work sites
Hard hat (climbing, peakless) - work when required to access offshore windfarms
Panama - when feeling cultured in summer
Straw boater - as above ( and when wishing to stand out from the crowd*)
Taliban hat (genuine Afgan, round, flat 'pie' shaped) -'cos its different and gets you noticed in Tesco

Yes, I sometimes get odd looks and No, I don't care!


* You DO stand out wearing one in deepest Norfolk! (as with the Taliban hat)

Tankertrashnav
28th Mar 2014, 16:01
Hats?

What is point?

Bloody pointless useless affectations. Hated them while in the military and haven't worn one since leaving. Most men look utterly ridiculous wearing them.


pr00ne - a job awaits you as a tv reporter. No matter that the rain is coming at them sideways, or they are standing doing a piece to camera in Red Square in minus 35C, you will never see a tv reporter wearing a hat. That is because no matter what the weather they will think they look better with their dripping hair plastered down over their face or their ears turning a delicate shade of blue than to risk looking "ridiculous" wearing a hat! I often wonder what the Muscovites must think of the idiot without a hat as they hurry by in their cosy fur Shapkas.

rgbrock1
28th Mar 2014, 16:04
Hats?

What is point?

Bloody pointless useless affectations.

It's obvious then that you've never had your head shit upon by a gaggle of geese aka, Flying Shit Bombers.

tony draper
28th Mar 2014, 16:53
Those Russian Military Chaps seem very keep on hats of the large variety.:)

con-pilot
28th Mar 2014, 17:08
Hate wearing hats. Back when I wore an airline uniform I left my uniform hat on a hook in my office. If anyone (cluless managment types) asked me where my hat was, I'd always reply, "Stolen.", then lie and say that I'd ordered a new one.

None of the managment types were smart enough to look in my office. Then we changed to flight suits and the hat issue was resolved.

But, I still ended up with some hats, baseball caps, a couple of Panama hats and a couple Stetsons, none of which I wear, they just collect dust sitting on a top shef in my closet.

My wife bought me the Panama hats and the Stetsons, she was going to get me more until I threatened to wear one of the Stetsons on our next trip to London and wear it every time we went out.

That stopped that nonsense. :p

500N
28th Mar 2014, 18:59
Tilley make some good hats.

Can't stand "Giggle Hats", probably because of the Army one we had to weat.

Large hats in the wet :ok: Find it very useful in rain storms up north of Aus, until you get to the point you are so wet through you just take it off.

Saintsman
28th Mar 2014, 19:26
When I used to work outside on the flight-line in the winter, I had one of those hats with the peak and furry ear flaps. In the beginning I was subject to much mirth. However although I may have looked stupid, I was warm.

Funny, but as the winter drew on, more and more people appeared with one.

Being warm trumps stupid looking.

I do wear a Panama at times in the summer, but I've never had any comments on that.

rgbrock1
28th Mar 2014, 19:40
I much prefer hats like this:

http://markc1.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451bb2969e20120a545ddc8970c-800wi

Needed for reading such threads as "MH370" in R&N.

superq7
28th Mar 2014, 19:54
Is that a selfie RG ?

500N
28th Mar 2014, 19:56
superq

Is that a selfie RG ?
:D:D:D:D:D

:ok:


I needed a good laugh at RGB's expense this morning, thanks.

Flash2001
28th Mar 2014, 20:58
I wear a hat since age and nature removed my natural head covering. Preferred is the Dorfman Pacific Scala Classico. Still can't find them though except by chance. Ain't no decent haberdashery around.

After an excellent landing etc...

500N
28th Mar 2014, 21:00
Flash

That's where the internet comes in.

Only way to buy gear now if you don't have a shop nearby,
especially specialist hats like the one you are after.


We have one shop in Melbourne that has been there for years that does hats well.

Flash2001
28th Mar 2014, 21:10
500N

I am most grateful for the advice. Perhaps you could further advise how one may fit a hat over the internet. There are items where a simple "Huge" will do but this is not one.

After an excellent landing etc...

con-pilot
28th Mar 2014, 21:14
Perhaps you could further advise how one may fit a hat over the internet.

Ah well, that depends on how small the screen is that your are on the internet with and how big the hat is, wouldn't it.

:p

500N
28th Mar 2014, 21:15
Flash

Sorry, I thought you already had one that had worn out ?

I have purchased replacement hats for one's I have that have worn out (Big Aussie slouch hat !)

It helps that it seems I have a huge head, always taking two sizes bigger in slouch hats than most other soldiers :O

500N
28th Mar 2014, 21:27
A good "bashed" Aussie slouch hat with Crocodile skin band :O

http://i59.tinypic.com/28slg09.jpg

G&T ice n slice
28th Mar 2014, 21:28
Where did you get that hat, where did you get that file?
Isn't it a nobby one and just the proper style.
I should like to have one just the same as that.
Where e'er I go
they'd shout "hello!
where did you get that hat?"

tony draper
28th Mar 2014, 21:43
Here yer go Mr [email protected],a picture is worth a thousand words.:ok:
Where did you get that hat? - Stanley Holloway - YouTube

dubbleyew eight
28th Mar 2014, 21:53
light weight, waterproof and get attention...

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0uCBwV-dnvBeJd4nu5d4SzuZnS2dLGxeieRKkZhGlM_XrKWC5

you just know you need one. :ok:

Hydromet
28th Mar 2014, 23:32
Floppy cloth hat when working outside or sailing. Wish I'd worn it more when I was younger, as skin cancers now are a problem. Have an akubra that's 20+ years old, but hardly ever worn because most of the farmers wore ones that were 'worn in', and a new akubra just looks wrong. Anyway, as they say, the bigger the hat, the smaller the station.

500N
28th Mar 2014, 23:38
hydro

I just got out my moth eaten, well worn original (as in my first) Aussie slouch hat :O

I reckon it would put most farmers hats to shame :O


Agree re new hats, I bash mine using soaking in warm water,
also makes it not quite as new looking !

G-SCUD
29th Mar 2014, 00:09
Disposable hats... Hmmm... Didn't know you could get 'em. Mind you, I bet I've spent less over the past 25 years! :)

500N
29th Mar 2014, 01:08
I forgot one.

The Pith Helmet :O

Pinky the pilot
29th Mar 2014, 02:32
A good "bashed" Aussie slouch hat with Crocodile skin band

Exactly 500N!:ok: Looks like the same one as mine.

As for a new hat, I put it on the floor and jump on it once or twice! :eek:
They must look 'worn in' before first use!

dubbleyew eight
29th Mar 2014, 02:45
if you want to make an akubra super comfortable, take the inside band out of the bloody thing.

a dilema is when your akubra has flipped off your noggin while slashing the airfield grass. having passed through the slasher blades it now sits on top of the slasher blade in the entrained air.
do you disconnect the pto (power take off) to stop the slasher and have the hat fall through the blades again.
do you drive off and hope the hat sits still while the slasher slides out from underneath.
in the end it didn't matter. mine went through the slasher twice.

the only thing rabbits are useful for in australia is making akubra hat felt.

PLovett
29th Mar 2014, 03:10
Have worn a hat for nearly 40 years now due to early balding. I even have some hats that are nearly of that vintage. Being a child of the 50s' when every summer one went to the beach to get well and truly sunburnt so that it wouldn't happen again I decided to get checked for skin melanomas. All clear especially the skin on the ears and pate. The reason according to the doctor was my wearing a hat when in the sun.

When flying up north I had a terry-towling one that I found out later became an identification mark. Several years later I ran into another pilot who had been there who remembered me by the hat. Don't mind wearing them and no one seems to comment on them now.

er340790
29th Mar 2014, 03:13
500N is correct. There is only one suitable hat for this Manor... the Pith Helmet.

Mainly because I can then sit on my deck and get PITHED!!!!! :}

dubbleyew eight
29th Mar 2014, 03:24
not taking the pith here but I have had a pith helmet in my hands only once.

I was totally amazed at how light the helmet was.
you think british raj and all that that they were nonsense.
they are surprisingly a very serviceable piece of kit for the environment.

btw best alfoil nutters hat I ever saw was a dead ringer for a pith helmet.
a brilliant parody on many levels.

500N
29th Mar 2014, 03:51
The pith helmet I own used to belong to a famous hunter Who went to Africa with John 'pondoro' Taylor, a famous hunter.

500N
29th Mar 2014, 04:03
Plovett,

It seems those terry towelling hats have quite a following
In certain circles and a few pilots seem to wear them !

Solid Rust Twotter
29th Mar 2014, 06:30
So sad that those suffering from terminal vanity feel the need to bash a hat in order to look 'right'. You could always just wear it for a week or two and let it settle in on its own, rather than try to fake character.:E

Hydromet
29th Mar 2014, 06:36
Being a child of the 50s' when every summer one went to the beach to get well and truly sunburnt so that it wouldn't happen again I decided to get checked for skin melanomas. All clear especially the skin on the ears and pate. The reason according to the doctor was my wearing a hat when in the sun.
Wish I had. No melanomas, fortunately, but plenty of BCCs and SCCs or pre-SCCs, including the latest on my eyeball. Luckily that one was found and excised early.

Effluent Man
29th Mar 2014, 07:38
I had a skin cancer removed from my face at 32.Not the dangerous type Rodent Ulcer I think the non medical name is.I bought a Panama and have worn ii in summertime ever since.So tonight it will come out of the cupboard.

500N
29th Mar 2014, 07:40
Set

You bash a hat, not to make it look worn but for the shape.

Aussie slouch hats come unshaped.

Otherwise you look like Hoss from "Bonanza" with a rounded dome or "Smokey the Bear" :O

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc411/heartbeatgirl/Danbirthday1.jpg

Solid Rust Twotter
29th Mar 2014, 08:48
Quite so, but it assumes the shape from repeated donning and doffing, ie use, rather than an attempt at giving it character it doesn't yet have.

Got an old Rogue Jock somewhere that looks like this to begin with...


http://www.rogue.co.za/NewFiles/web%20Hats%202011/Hats_0016_201K.jpg


...But is now similar in shape to the Akubra you're sporting after a bit of use, blood and beer stains notwithstanding.

SawMan
29th Mar 2014, 09:46
I wear hats only for practical reasons, not style. I need no convincing that any hat which could improve my appearance would have to cover my face too- kind of impractical :( US Mil "Boonie" hat preferred here, the usual camo colors or in black. Siliconed to keep it relatively waterproof and worn for rain, sun, and dusty jobs where my hard-hat isn't required. For the latter, I have the bill in back since my work has me leaned forward as often as not and if something above me is coming down, I want to see it so I can get out of the way in time. And yes, watch out for the guys with the shiny white hard-hats and clean shoes; they are nothing but trouble on a construction job :suspect: Baseball caps (any kind, whatever is cheap) keep paint out of my too-rapidly diminishing hair :sad: Paper 'baseball caps' (kind of squared-off, not fully round on top) can be had from paint stores, occasionally free to contractors or those who make bigger purchases.

A bar across town which I once visited sometimes had a large sign on the wall which said "If your hat is on backwards, your drink will be served upside-down" :p Rumor had it that this actually happened a few times, with the customer being asked to pay for the drink or leave immediately- the owner hated people wearing backwards caps :E

Cacophonix
29th Mar 2014, 10:26
One hat that I loathed wearing was my school boater. You could be beaten for not wearing it while in school uniform but woe betide you if you wore it while talking to any female on or off school property...

The most amazing thing I ever saw was when an American boarder at my school had his ripped off his head by a local bully and flung out of the window. Harry Ber**** Junior the II (the US newbie) ran straight down the hall and jumped out of the window in pursuit of it not knowing that the ground dropped away on that side of the dormitory giving him the equivalent of a one storey fall. He survived and went on to greater things as befits somebody with a name like his... An flinchingly brave, humorous and naughty soul was Mr B the junior. Never was the disgusting boater worn by a better man. :ok:

Caco

500N
29th Mar 2014, 10:33
Caco

"but woe betide you if you wore it while talking to any female on or off school property... "

What was the go with that ? (wearing it while talking to a female ?)

tony draper
29th Mar 2014, 10:34
We could only dream of hats, we just had to tug our forelocks.:rolleyes:

Cacophonix
29th Mar 2014, 10:38
(wearing it while talking to a female ?)

Bang on 500N! You could be and some often were caned for this transgression...

On the plus side boaters made good Frisbees and were great for punching through when frustrated. Hated them then but now I am shuffling into my dotage I see that I might have learned some life skills because of them. Patience being one of those. I mean, try wearing one of those contraptions in a 40 knot South Easter... :ok:

Caco

Cacophonix
29th Mar 2014, 10:39
we just had to tug our forelocks.:rolleyes:


"And tell that to the kids today and they just won't believe you..." ;)

Caco

Lancair70
29th Mar 2014, 10:41
Wear the fox hat - YouTube

500N
29th Mar 2014, 10:42
Caco

Some rules in the UK defy belief, that is one of them :rolleyes:

Yes, acknowledge the lady but taking your hat totally off ????????

Cacophonix
29th Mar 2014, 10:48
Some rules in the UK defy belief, that is one of them :rolleyes:

While the rule was most certainly predicated upon English etiquette, the school was trying to turn me into an English gentleman after all, a task in which it/they spectacularly failed (shame on them or me I am not sure which), it was enforced in a southern land to the west of your brave continent... ;)

Caco

500N
29th Mar 2014, 10:51
Caco

"a task in which it/they spectacularly failed"


We have something in common :O


I have never known English etiquette that required Hats to be taken off talking to a lady. Must have missed that lesson !

Cacophonix
29th Mar 2014, 11:08
All one ever wanted to know about hat etiquette and was afraid to ask...

Hat Etiquette - The History & Rules : Ask Andy About Clothes (http://askandyaboutclothes.com/clothing/style-tips/hat-etiquette/)

"Hats are removed when inside, except for places that are akin to public streets, like lobbies, corridors, and crowded elevators (non-residential). In a public building (where there are no apartments) the elevator is considered a public area.

You may choose to remove your hat in a public elevator, but in the presence of a lady your hat must be removed.

A gentleman takes off his hat and holds it in his hand when a lady enters the elevator in any building that can be classified as a dwelling such as an apartment house or hotel. He puts it on again in the corridor.

A public corridor is like the street, but an elevator in a hotel or apartment house has the character of a room in a house and there a gentleman does not keep his hat on in the presence of ladies.

Hats are removed for the National Anthem, passing of the Flag and funeral processions, outdoor weddings, dedications, and photographs."

Caco

603DX
29th Mar 2014, 11:09
This thing about being compelled to wear daft hats with school uniform is probably the unconscious reason for my dislike of the baseball cap. Our school rules were strictly enforced, and the nerdish school cap with gold beading radials all round, and the badge complete with Latin motto translating as "One day it will please us to remember these things" had to be worn at all times, up to and including the age of 16. Ironic, that motto.

A real downer when meeting the opposite sex in the then-new and trendy Espresso Bars in town, and I was a frequent offender for going hatless on Saturdays. The older sixth former prefects would "book" us to appear at break on Monday morning to be reprimanded and given lines for the first two offences, and "the slipper" for a third occasion. I had the misfortune to be slippered by a tall prefect called David Sayer, a red-hot fast bowler in the school first XI who later played county cricket for Kent. He actually took a run at me from the far side of the prefect's room to deliver three huge wallops with a size 12 gym shoe, and it really hurt! The distant memory of that is enough to put anyone off wearing a baseball cap ...

500N
29th Mar 2014, 11:16
"but in the presence of a lady your hat must be removed."

Which the military doesn't adhere to ?

And most others don't like outside talking to someone ?

tony draper
29th Mar 2014, 11:16
I believe a Gentleman always removed his hat upon mounting the scaffold to be executed as well.
:rolleyes:

Worrals in the wilds
29th Mar 2014, 11:43
"but in the presence of a lady your hat must be removed."
Which the military doesn't adhere to ?
And nor do construction sites :}. I think work related hats are different :\.

I notice that the old hat etiquette rules are similar to the new sunglasses etiquette rules :8, ie polite types take them off indoors, at church and when speaking with people (whether ladies or gentlemen these days), but erks leave them on for all occasions. :hmm:

tony draper
29th Mar 2014, 13:24
This was the approved head wear for a chap on the summer beaches of England in the 1950s,white hankie knotted in each corner and placed upon the noggin, it were also customary to roll up one's trousers to the knee as well for plodging.
:rolleyes:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/Deaddogbay/second%20album/stringvest_zpse4242b58.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/Deaddogbay/media/second%20album/stringvest_zpse4242b58.jpg.html)

BenThere
29th Mar 2014, 14:07
Haven't waded through the whole thread so I hope this hasn't been addressed.

At the end of just about every flight I'll stand at the cockpit door and thank the passengers for flying with us. Sometimes I put my pilot hat on and sometimes I don't. I perceive a subtle, but real, difference in the expressions of the pax as they leave based on whether or not I'm wearing the hat.

I think the hat, with its brass airline insignia, elevated facade, and officialness, lends a certain authority and legitimacy that my uncovered head doesn't apparently deliver. I sense a greater degree of deference and respect when I wear the hat. So I usually put the hat on as I stand by the exit.

Besides, the airline - who puts the bread on my table, wants me to wear the hat in public. That's the other reason I do. Personally, I think the airline wheel hats are a PITA.

Tankertrashnav
29th Mar 2014, 16:33
Stop sitting on them then ;)

Blacksheep
29th Mar 2014, 18:48
One wears a tweed flat cap most days as befits a member of the engineering profession.

On sunny summer weekends I may sport a fedora should the occasion be suited.

Dad and Grandad, being shop-stewards wore a flat cap at all times - though they did take them off at bedtime. ;)

500N
29th Mar 2014, 19:19
BenThere

Wheel hats ! Never heard them called that before.

BenThere
29th Mar 2014, 19:36
It's what we called the Air Force formal hats. Same shape, same mould, same PITA.

Flash2001
29th Mar 2014, 19:36
500N

I have in fact worn out or made filthy beyond recovery 2, count'em 2 Scala Classicos. What I want is one that fits!. I have a hat block but the cloth used doesn't seem to respond well.

After an excellent landing etc...

500N
29th Mar 2014, 19:42
BenThere

"Same shape, same mould, same PITA." :ok:

Only ever wore one for a short while in the Army, the Aust military then went to Slouch Hats and the unit I transferred to wore Berets.

We had an OC who decided that soldiers were too "wedded" to their berets
and so deemed no headwear to be worn around the depot !

500N
29th Mar 2014, 19:44
Flash

Understand.

Well, looks like a bit of travelling is in order, to somewhere who has plenty in stock ! Good luck.

500N
29th Mar 2014, 21:21
What about some photos of all these hats that live on one's head ? :O

evansb
29th Mar 2014, 21:27
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/convair640072/1930airplanehat_zpscad72432.jpg

PLovett
29th Mar 2014, 22:02
A bar across town which I once visited sometimes had a large sign on the wall which said "If your hat is on backwards, your drink will be served upside-down" Rumor had it that this actually happened a few times, with the customer being asked to pay for the drink or leave immediately- the owner hated people wearing backwards caps

The Birdsville pub has a similar sign except there you are expected to shout the bar. It is rumoured that one unfortunate soul walked in to the bar while attending the annual horse race with his baseball cap on back-to-front. I was told they took pity on him when the tab had reached about $1,000. Given the numbers there it could have been much, much worse. :eek:

500N
29th Mar 2014, 22:05
"The Birdsville pub"

Now I can well believe that. And I would hate to think what would happen
if you didn't comply ;) A lot of very remote land out there !!! :O

Flash2001
29th Mar 2014, 22:28
There is no excuse for wearing a cap in a bar save if you're on duty as a soldier or policeman. That being said there is occasionally a reason to wear one reversed: if one is arc welding, If one is a tall person in an environment of low lintels it saves pain, bruising etc.

After an excellent landing etc...

Hydromet
29th Mar 2014, 22:29
Ben There, I remember reading nearly 50 years ago about an emergency evacuation where pax wouldn't obey instructions until a steward put his 'wheel hat' on. It seems that the wearing of the hat invested him with an authority that he didn't otherwise have.

PLovett, the same rule used to apply to wearing fly veil in the Birdsville pub. Don't know if that's still the case.

Nopax,thanx
29th Mar 2014, 22:37
I've said this before.....

Titfers are for baldies :p

500N
29th Mar 2014, 22:38
Not that I do it but some people reverse the cap when trying to take a shot with a rifle.

PLovett
30th Mar 2014, 04:40
Not that I do it but some people reverse the cap when trying to take a shot with a rifle.

I find the floppy brim of a hat excellent for blocking off the left eye when shooting with a rifle. Allows one to keep both eyes open rather than screwing up the face and distorting the vision from the aiming eye. Still haven't done enough shooting to be able to disregard the vision from the non-aiming eye yet.

Krystal n chips
30th Mar 2014, 07:09
" I think the hat, with its brass airline insignia, elevated facade, and officialness, lends a certain authority and legitimacy that my uncovered head doesn't apparently deliver. I sense a greater degree of deference and respect when I wear the hat


about 40secs in....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEpIyBW9Tao




Indeed, nothing quite like a uniform to manifest and massage the ego of the wearer......traffic wardens wear them for example. Unlikely to have the same effect on ground engineers however.

I gave up on hats as a sartorial embellishment starting at school...."not well received" by some at the time, and continued in the Air Force with minimal beret wearing....it was useful for mopping up with however, and the SD hat did have a few creases in.....some rude comments generally ensued and were "duly noted and ignored ".

Practicality of hats however, is entirely different. Hard Hats for the usual all too evident safety requirements, floppy bush hat when gliding....nothing quite like that warm glow induced by Perspex as your head starts to resemble a griddle....and a wool hat in winter, purely to reduce heat loss as we know.

Pinky the pilot
30th Mar 2014, 08:02
The Birdsville pub has a similar sign except there you are expected to shout the bar.

Interesting. Must have changed since I was last there ('94) when employed as a second Pilot on the mail run. Back then it read

This is Australia! Baseball caps worn backwards incur a $2 fine payable to the RFDS.

I may have a piccy of the Pub Bar somewhere which actually shows the sign. I'll try to find it.

And I would hate to think what would happen
if you didn't comply

I was told by one of the Barmen that 'a few' had refused to comply.
'They left without being served. One or two left involuntarily!':eek:

So sad that those suffering from terminal vanity feel the need to bash a hat in order to look 'right'. You could always just wear it for a week or two and let it settle in on its own, rather than try to fake character.

Fair go, SRT; An Aussie slouch hat takes a fair bit of use/abuse before it even starts to look like a decent hat.:ooh: Besides, a new one just doesn't even feel right unless it's had a bit of prior 'treatment!':}

500N
30th Mar 2014, 09:40
Pinky

Birdsville Pub is one of those pubs that should stay as it is till the end of time. So much "character" :O

A bit like the Humpty Doo pub, except that is "characters" as opposed to the pub having "character" !

The Old Booligal pub used to be like that, before it closed.

Hydromet
30th Mar 2014, 10:03
The Old Booligal pub used to be like that, before it closed.The Duke.:E
Back in the '60s, the publican had a wonky eye. One eye looked at the door, one eye looked at the ceiling and all he could see was the cash register.
I think his son took it over. Sad to hear it's closed When did that happen?

Another pub with 'character' was the Lyndhurst (SA) pub before it burned down. When Bubble was the publican, you had to wait until everyone's glass was empty before he'd get his gut off the bar and fill everyone's orders. Strings of salami & cabanossi hanging over the bar, and he'd cut a knob off it off when he was hungry - all the time.

500N
30th Mar 2014, 10:07
From memory it closed in the 80's. The last time I looked in the old place a snake was living by the pool table and it was full of dust !!!

Booligal, of all places was one of the first places I went to in Aus (1979).


Do you remember the Poem re Booligal ?

Hydromet
30th Mar 2014, 11:09
Not the poem, just the expression "Hay, Hell & Booligal"

500N
30th Mar 2014, 11:12
Here is the last paragraph, the most famous bit of the poem.

"We'd have to stop!" With bated breath
We prayed that both in life and death
Our fate in other lines might fall;
"Oh, send us to our just reward
In Hay or Hell, but, gracious Lord,
Deliver us from Booligal!"


The Full A B Patterson poem is here.

Hay & Hell & Booligal (http://www.hay.nsw.gov.au/VisitHay/PlacestoVisit/Booligal/HayHellBooligal/tabid/158/Default.aspx)

Worrals in the wilds
30th Mar 2014, 11:52
I was told by one of the Barmen that 'a few' had refused to comply.
'They left without being served. One or two left involuntarily!':eek:The thing with Birdsville is that it only has one Pub. If they refuse to serve you then your options (providing you didn't BYO) are 1. cocoa or 2. drive 180km to Bedourie on an unsealed road for a drink :uhoh:. Thus an acceptable standard of behaviour is generally maintained. :}

As the only pub in town it provides three standards of service in one venue; the posh/tourist pub, the working pub and the indigenous pub. Most towns have a separate venue for each demographic , but Birdsville manages to serve all three in the one venue (albiet generally in three separate groups within the one building), probably because they've got the only liquor license and decent air conditioning system in town. :}

Aside from the cap rule (which I recall) last time I was there they'd also enacted a 'photograph the bar, donate to the Flying Doctors' rule, which netted a good income for the Docs. :cool:

As for hats, they've got plenty...
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGlTAj6aOm2K_gNFf-mRmw77_yAVWKfPS-rpiXbE5_8VmJkwSRVA

Cacophonix
30th Mar 2014, 12:10
I like the sound of this pub. Now where's my hat...?;)

the publican had a wonky eye. One eye looked at the door, one eye looked atthe ceiling and all he could see was the cash register

My favourite publican's daughter has a similar eye and yet is mightily endowed. Often one is caught out gazing admiringly at her assets when her one eye wanders only to find that the other eye is fixed with a malevolent stare as she contemplates kicking one's gonads...

Caco

Hydromet
30th Mar 2014, 21:22
Thanks, 500N. Hadn't seen the poem before, but it accords with my memory of the place.

ExSp33db1rd
30th Mar 2014, 22:16
Mate of mine flew a Royal flight, at the end of which the crew were summoned to HM's presence to be awarded a signed photograph before disembarking,

Mate duly attended, with uniform hat tucked smartly under his arm and holding the peak. HM spoke a few words, gave him the photograph, then stuck her hand out - mate now found himself minus a free hand, what to do, disrespectful to put the photo down, nowhere to put the hat etc. couldn't snub the gesture. Thought a moment then decided to plonk it on his head ! HRH Prince P. quietly p***ing himself in the background !

Cacophonix
30th Mar 2014, 22:54
ExSpdB, you blokes deserve these conundrums and yet we are better for the stuff you blokes did...

I tip my hat to you...

Caco

PLovett
31st Mar 2014, 01:42
Pinky I think the sign was changed for the races as the event is run for the RFDS and it may have been only one year. When I was there in 2009 the sign was for the RFDS.

Now if you really want a pub with character then try William Creek. Not only are there hats on the ceiling but bras, panties and all sort of paraphernalia.

ExSp33db1rd
31st Mar 2014, 08:19
I tip my hat to you...

You're welcome.

( and the blokes before us, too ! )

Solid Rust Twotter
31st Mar 2014, 10:16
Here ya go Mr Nitro. Found it...


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/Lardbeast/P3311260_zpscdd1a4b3.jpg

MagnusP
31st Mar 2014, 10:20
Forgot about the terry-towel hats. I used to leave one floating in the pool. Bliss on a 35C day.

evansb
1st Apr 2014, 19:56
Pay day at the Burrard Dry Docks, North Vancouver, B.C. circa 1942
:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/convair640080/Quitting-Time-at-Burrard-Dry-Dock-1942_zps93e13d96.jpg

Tankertrashnav
1st Apr 2014, 19:59
They're all thinking - who's that weirdo over there on the right, without a hat on? !