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arramis
3rd Mar 2014, 20:03
Has anyone of you done the briefing recently?

First of all it is extra difficult to find the appropriate website and secondary the system cannot score you test- the page simply reloads again and again:(

Some time ago I read the briefing is mandatory for pilots. Can you confirm it is still so?


Thanks.

dirk85
3rd Mar 2014, 20:48
No briefing is mandatory as far as I know.

Where did you read of if?

flydive1
4th Mar 2014, 11:37
There was a notam 4 years ago about it.

I basically said that it was recommended to take the briefing if not based there, but if any inconvenience should happen and the PIC did not take it it would be considered negligent behaviour.

So a kind of grey area.

I did take it when it came out, big mess.

The web page had problems, some questions were wrong, some were not part of the briefing and you had to guess and after all that the grading and printing of the "certificate" did not work, etc.

Had to go through few phone calls, from office to office, nobody knew anything, finally got called back from the webmaster and problem solved.

Dirk85, you know how it works ;-) (there was a thread in the Italian forum)

Arramis, my link does not work anymore, do you have a new one? (just curious)

flydive1
4th Mar 2014, 11:39
Fond the text of the old notam

A4762/10 NOTAMN Q) LIMM/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4526N00916E005 A) LIML B) 1008061433 C) 1010271400 EST E) IN ORDER TO PROVIDE TO GENERAL AVIATION PILOTS WILLING TO OPERATE TO/FROM MILANO LINATE AIRPORT, AN EXHAUSTIVE RANGE OF INFORMATION CONCERNING THE AIRPORT OPERATIONS AND AIRCRAFT GROUND MOVEMENT IS NOW AVAILABLE A SPECIFIC SAFETY WEBSITE ACCESSIBLE AT SEA - Aeroporti Milano (http://apicdn.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=1e857e7500cdd32403f752206c297a3d&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pprune.org%2Fitalian-forum%2F428127-notam-linate.html&out=http%3A%2F%2FWWW.SEA-AEROPORTIMILANO.IT&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pprune.org%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearchid%3D18 24790) BY CLICKING ON AVIAZIONE GENERALE LINATE. THE SITE CONSTITUTE AN IMPORTANT AND DECISIVE SAFETY MEAN TOWARDS INCIDENT/ACCIDENT PREVENTION. SEA, AS LINATE AIRPORT MANAGING COMPANY, RECOMMENDS TO THE CREW STAFF NOT BASED AT MILANO/LINATE AIRPORT AND WITH THE NEED TO USE THE MILANO/LINATE INFRASTRUCTURES TO CONSULT THE WEBSITE IN ADVANCE BY REGISTERING THE REQUESTED PERSONAL DATA. IN CASE OF OPERATION INCONVENIENCE, IF THE PILOT HAS NOT PREVIOUSLY COMPLETELY CONSULTED THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE SAFETY WEBSITE, AERODROME OPERATOR (SEA), ON THE PREMISE THAT THE NEGLIGENT BEHAVIOUR OF THE PILOT MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE OCCURRENCE OF THE EVENT, RESERVES THE RIGHT TO INFORM THE NATIONAL FLIGHT SAFETY AUTHORITY ACCORDINGLY. REF AIP AD 2 LIML 1-9 CREATED: 06 Aug 2010 14:34:00 SOURCE: LIIAYNYX

arramis
4th Mar 2014, 13:40
The link I have: http://www.milanolinate.eu/en/airport/general-aviation
I took me some serious time to find it.

Will try to write an email to the webmaster.

dirk85
4th Mar 2014, 13:55
At that time I was based there, so it was not applicable to me, I guess.

I can see why a briefing is mandatory, I don't see how else a professional pilot would be able to follow a follow me from K1 to the stand and the full 20 metres from the stand to H1… :hmm:

flydive1
4th Mar 2014, 16:04
The link I have: http://www.milanolinate.eu/en/airport/general-aviation
I took me some serious time to find it.

Will try to write an email to the webmaster.

Web page looks even worse than it used to:rolleyes:

Questions seems the same. Bad.

At that time I was based there, so it was not applicable to me, I guess.

I can see why a briefing is mandatory, I don't see how else a professional pilot would be able to follow a follow me from K1 to the stand and the full 20 metres from the stand to H1… :hmm:

Well, you should see some of the questions. A joke

Just go through the test, just for fun;)

deefer dog
6th Mar 2014, 09:23
The guy that compiled the questions for Linate is surely the same idiot who put together the test required for Samedan.

Anyone believing that operational safety is enhanced because a visiting pilot can remember the ICAO code of an airport, its hours of operation or information such as an ATIS frequency is deluded, probably paid peanuts and is unlikely to progress beyond the lower ranks of middle management.

Such people should be pitied, and not blamed for their misguided attempts.