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meadowrun
3rd Feb 2014, 13:25
I just don't get the reasons for the size of this airport. It's Colorado! Perhaps in piston days where it was just over the Rocky hump or for staging prior to going over the hump, but now? What is there in Colorado or near there that warrants this thing?

Denver International Airport (IATA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Air_Transport_Association_airport_code): DEN, ICAO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Civil_Aviation_Organization_airport_code): KDEN, FAA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Aviation_Administration) LID (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_identifier): DEN), often referred to as DIA, is an airport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airport) in Denver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver), Colorado (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado). At 140 square kilometres (54 sq mi) it is the largest airport in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) by total area. Runway 16R/34L is the longest public use runway in the United States. In 2012 Denver International Airport was the 15th-busiest airport in the world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_busiest_airports_by_passenger_traffic) by passenger traffic with 53,156,278 passengers.
It was the fifth-busiest airport in the world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_busiest_airports_by_traffic_movements) by aircraft movements with over 635,000 movements in 2010.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Airport#cite_note-3) The airport is in northeastern Denver and is operated by the City & County of Denver Department of Aviation. DIA was voted Best Airport in North America by readers of Business Traveler Magazine six years in a row (20052010)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Airport#cite_note-4) and was named "America's Best Run Airport" by Time Magazine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_(magazine)) in 2002

Posted here because Airports forum just seems to go on and on about the same old things.

MagnusP
3rd Feb 2014, 13:30
Longest runway because of altitude? Only been there once on a trip to Aspen for a meeting. Well, twice as I came back. :) Landing in Aspen was fun.

VH-UFO
3rd Feb 2014, 14:07
So what you are saying is their Airport is overrated just like their Football team?

Andy_S
3rd Feb 2014, 14:14
I just don't get the reasons for the size of this airport. It's Colorado! Perhaps in piston days where it was just over the Rocky hump or for staging prior to going over the hump, but now? What is there in Colorado or near there that warrants this thing?

If it's a 'hub' airport, does it really matter?

Um... lifting...
3rd Feb 2014, 14:42
So like Dubai, then.

What is there in Colorado or near there that warrants this thing?

galaxy flyer
3rd Feb 2014, 15:20
The Denver Metro area is pretty big and it can draw from much of COS, too.

GF

fleigle
3rd Feb 2014, 15:37
Its that big because;
a) they had the room
b) they didn't want suburbs crowding them out for future expansion (with associated bleating about "noise near our homes"
c) if you'd ever flown into/out of Denver Stapelton you wouldn't ask your question
f

BenThere
3rd Feb 2014, 16:08
Denver's airport was built to be a major hub for United Airlines. Cities compete with each other to be major hubs, which have the potential to generate enormous economic advantages. Also, when you build an airport, you have to think not just for today, but for 50-100 years down the road.

There are quite a few cities, though, that invested in the airport infrastructure to be hubs, in the form of runways, terminals, CAT IIIB capability, freeway access, and the like, only to have their envisioned hub dreams dashed by changes to the airline business environment.

St. Louis, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minneapolis, Memphis, Charlotte, Dayton, and others are examples of great airports built to serve large scale operations that haven't panned out to meet the glowing expectations.

But things change, and cities that have a great airport, like Denver, have an asset attractive to sell as they compete for economic activity.

I fly into Atlanta multiple times every month. It continues to grow and grow, bringing great advantage to the city as the world's busiest airport by far. The nicest thing for me going in there is I have a choice of 300 or so places to eat. The downside is the 10 points flying in and out of Atlanta adds to my blood pressure.

perthsaint
3rd Feb 2014, 17:24
The last time I was there they had a cracking little bar in the terminal which was run by a local microbrewery. Anyone know if that's still there?

SpringHeeledJack
3rd Feb 2014, 17:49
Of course there is the matter touted by conspiracy buffs, being that under the airport land there sits an almighty sub-terranean base/complex/whatever and the airport was the legitimate cover for it's construction.....:suspect::E Has anyone ever had a gander at that 'unusual' mural in the main terminal ? That's a bit abstract.

I've always wondered why Atlanta is such a huge transit/hub airport, apart from the weather and halfway position along the eastern seaboard, but like Denver it has a purpose within the transport system of the USA. I've taken to watching one of those Discovery Channel programmes about how the USA came about, that is why cities are where they are, why states are shaped as they are and so on, it's very interesting. Perhaps they'll get onto why the airports are where they are and why they flourish or fade away.



SHJ

tdracer
3rd Feb 2014, 18:21
c) if you'd ever flown into/out of Denver Stapelton you wouldn't ask your question

+1 (at least). Stapleton was horrid, especially when the weather went to :mad:. After one particularly nightmarish experience, my dad told me to fly into Colo Springs instead - he'd pay the difference - because there was no way he was going to pick me up at Stapleton again :uhoh:
Denver metro area is several million people and growing, plus it's a major hub located near the geographic center of the country. 5200 ft. altitude combined with 35 deg C summer temperatures (ISA + 30!) mean long runways are needed.
Also, as fleigle noted, 50 years ago Stapleton was out in the boonies - but quickly became surrounded by communities complaining about the noise :rolleyes:

B Fraser
3rd Feb 2014, 19:11
Denver airport is so huge, I was puzzling over a shiny point on the horizon. It was a parked 747. Come to think of it, the term huge does not do it justice.

Um... lifting...
4th Feb 2014, 00:08
I think you'll find ATL is as big as it is primarily due to Delta. That airline has been there for 70+ years. I'm through that airport so often that I'm a regular at two eating establishments.

ruddman
4th Feb 2014, 00:20
I found Denver to be painful when I was based there...in flight sim. Takes forever to taxi to and from the terminals. I'd get lost on all those taxiways.

I called it a 'two beer" or a "sweetie, I'm not going to ask you again to take the rubbish out" taxi.

In fact, having two beers on the taxi in counteracted the other voice I was hearing. And I'm not talking atc here either...:suspect:


Speaking of beers, I need another...:8

galaxy flyer
4th Feb 2014, 01:14
One light snow day, I, as SLF, landed at DEN, my window seat was facing east on on of the east-side runways--I thought we'd landed in Liberal, KS.

BenThere,

Minni and Charlotte aren't small airports--MSP you should know, too.

GF