CRASH TOLL/Airwork Boeing 737F ZK-TLC HONIARA

[4 Holer]

Toll / Airwork's PAE Boeing 737-300F reported Crashed on runway Honiara.

Had a call from Australia Honiara Airport closed...... did crew get out ?

Any other info ????????

[717tech]

A5/14
rwy 06/24 tempo clsd due disable acft on rwy
from 01 260020 to 01 260700 est

[4 Holer]

(from Sol Air) Major damage slid down runway say written off, main gear folded back behind. Aircraft on its belly and engine/pylon, nose 4 foot in air.
Crane truck and bulldozer on the way to clear runway, Sol Air diverted to Vila.

Crew got out ok.............

[Capt Claret]

I wonder if the EFA 733 movement at CNS today is related?

[4 Holer]

put in your window and check

imgur: the simple image sharer (http://imgur.com/YM3YO2m)

[4 Holer]

falcon X click on the link above photos are there, post them whole if you are able I had trouble.

[neld]

Finally!

http://i.imgur.com/YM3YO2m.jpg

Here we go.

Sorry, I had account restrictions. I tried to PM the image details to a couple of people to get them to post for me.

[Capt Claret]

It's not a EFA aircraft. EFA are all Australian registered Aircraft.

As per the OP it's a Toll aircraft. The EFA 73 doesn't usually move on a Sunday though....

[Javadreaming]

It looks like the righthand main collapsed. Hard landing or just a matter of the gear giving way? What ever was the cause it will be a nightmare trying to salvage the aircraft, as resources are fairly limited in that part of the world. Glad the crew are ok.

[4 Holer]

They were landing ? So why are the trailing edge flaps nearly or are up and the leading edge flaps out. Would landing config be full trailing edge flaps if so the canoes covering TE flap jack screws on R/H wing should have scraped the ground seems from photos they have not scraped the ground ? The gear has come out to the right and rear.

I see the R/H nose tire is blown and #1 out of reverse.

[nitpicker330]

1/ that's the right Engine with the Reverser sleeve open, number 2
2/ the right nose wheel is deflated possibly as a result of the crew applying a fair bit of left rudder and or tiller to keep it straight, side loads probably caused the tire to fail.
3/ as to the Flaps, maybe they had a non normal situation with them beforehand??

Who knows......:D

[4 Holer]

Can anyone who flies a twin in this case 737 advise if they had an engine shutdown or idle is a flap 5 landing called out in the Emergency checklist ? I have only flown 3/4 engines 72/74/DC8s ??

I received more photos the R/H main tire is scrubbed out all up the sidewall until it blew suggests the aircraft was going sideways nose left of runway before the tire blew, ......

[Dash Balus]

Single engine landing is flap 15.

[Cactusjack]

Agree, too early to tell but if it was during landing then perhaps wx was a factor? Maybe the VASIS was overgrown with grass (not an unusual occurrence over there), perhaps she was off glidslope, unstable, who knows!
Next day or two should provide some insight, just glad the Drivers walked away unscathed :ok:

[MakeItHappenCaptain]

It looks like the righthand main collapsed. Hard landing or just a matter of the gear giving way?

RH main gear leg sheared during the rollout and folded back.
Not a downlock failure.
All OK. Should be off the runway shortly.:ok:

[waren9]

is there a flap setting memory item for evac? after ldg checklist attempted? all sorts of reasons

[Tankengine]

Maybe they retracted the flaps to look under the wing.:zzz:

[ASY68]

Accident: Airwork B733 at Honiara on Jan 26th 2014, gear collapse on landing (http://avherald.com/h?article=46f15c12&opt=0)

[jet_mechanic]

My 2 bobs...

Aircraft ZK-TLC
Airwork owned and operated - Leased to Toll Priory
Maintained under the NZCAA Airwork system of maintenance.

Looks like Aircraft has landed and during the rollout and braking phase the MLG has failed. Flap config is probably due to the wing being cleaned up after landing. IE: T/E flaps are almost full up as the L/E won't go to full up until the T/E has.

Thrust reverser does look deployed on #2 Eng, but could have been pulled open as the engine was dragged along the Tarmac. The Flat RH nose wheels is actually the I/B wheel of the LH MLG if you look at the pic closer.

If I were a betting man I don't think this bird will be flying again.

[ASY68]

http://i.imgur.com/eGFSZyW.jpg

[Australopithecus]

Most operators do not retract flaps on the runway. Maybe the should read "most operators in this region". If you were going to configure flaps for an evacuation in a pax plane you would select flaps 40 (more flaps than the typical 30, eg)

I do not know what procedures are in place for freighters in a non-normal landing. If it was me, I would select 40 in case the fwd exits were blocked and I wanted to preserve my fine pink young self with minimal souvenir scars.

That said, the aircraft is on the rwy, the crew are apparently unscathed, the world is rid of another ancient -300. What's not to like?



castigat ridendo mores

[VolLibre]

Solomon Star newspaper (http://solomonstarnews.com/news/national/21547-aircraft-crashed-on-touchdown-no-casualties-reported)

An eye witness Joseph Abana told the Solomon Star that he was at the eastern end of the airport when the incident occurred.

Abana claimed the aircraft was hit by a strong wind to its right side when it was about to land.

“When it landed its tyres appears to have collapsed so it slides on its right side till it stops near the domestic terminal.

“Its right wing also crashed to the ground and as a result damaged its turbine engine.”

He said it took some few minutes before the fire service responded and rushed to the scene.

“Fortunately the crash did not ignite fire and none of the three crews on board were injured.”

Mr Abana also called on the aviation fire service to pull up their socks and to be on alert every time.

[4 Holer]

TW. Good keep the thread open. Have photos coming under the aircraft, smashed wheelwell and gear ripped out will post.:E

[Bellcrank 74]

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[Bellcrank 74]

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[Bellcrank 74]

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[Going Nowhere]

If full flap (30 or 40) was selected for landing and maintained throughout the landing roll, would you expect to see any damage on the flaps and/or canoes on the far RH side as it slid down the runway?

Would the initial downward force as the gear leg snapped cause any part of the wingtip or flaps to contact the runway?

The last pic doesn't seem to show any marks or ripples at all.

I've found a video of a TNT example O/S a few years ago. Doesn't show any damage, but the nose doesn't lift after either. Big difference though is that they knew they were going in with the RH main gear up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYKDPnjwUSE

[4 Holer]

MAYBE THEY WERE TRYING TO GO AROUND BEFORE GOING IN THE GRASS.

As suggested before seems its well offline to the right of runway in a straight line , scrubbed out R/H main outboard tired and blew the sidewall ( see photo close up ) trying to get back ? Does any 737 "pilot" ( not driver ) think flap were retracted for the go around before the gear came out ??

The TNT 737 had the R/H main not extend but ended up on the engine.

[ChaseIt]

If they did plan to go around they would have set flaps 15.... If I can understand what your asking correctly no they would not retract the gear before verifying 'positive rate' on the altimeter...

[waren9]

whats minimum flap for normal ldg?

[4 Holer]

Yes. the TE flaps look up and canoes faired except where the bent R/H T/E piece where the gear hit. Must have been selected up at some point after touchdown to capture the bent TE from the gear , but the Leading edges are extended maybe would not retract as the R/H inboard T/E flaps are chewed up and not stowed. Your right very interesting maybe the FDR will reveal all.

[ChaseIt]

Flaps 30 or 40 for landing or flaps 15 for One Inop

[Gate_15L]

4 Holer

mate what do you have against Airwork? One of them run off with your wife or sheep?

[ChaseIt]

From the look of the photos you could say it APPEARS as a failed one Inop go around... flaps 1 and 1 thrust reverser.... Any 737 pilots agree?

[Gate_15L]

ugh as a 737 driver, I reckon your talking crap.

[4 Holer]

G15

Take the emotion out, you ploughed a 737 in with happy snaps everywhere. I learnt there a bitsa fleet of 7 out of a shed in Auckland based in Australia, I had some obvious questions ?? I am just interested as gears don't fall out of airplanes much where I'm from buddy and there are thousands of landings with 737s daily . :ouch:

[ChaseIt]

Worth a crack

[Username here]

I am just interested as gears don't fall out of airplanes much where I'm from

Florida and New York are in the same United States 4-holer?

Southwest jet lands after landing gear collapses (http://tbo.com/article/20130722/ARTICLE/130729827/1559)

Pull your head in d!ckhead....

[lilflyboy262...2]

I don't see why he is on such a crusade with this?

There is N registered aircraft operating around the world under the same thing.

I also don't get what the issue is with having different variants of aircraft either? Pretty much every operator around the world has multiple types of aircraft under their AOC?

There are multiple 737 accidents pretty much every year. Why the crusade on THIS one? What's your agenda?

[KABOY]

Removing all emotion....landing gear collapses are just that. The RH MLG on this aircraft has suffered a catastrophic failure, not a collapse.

There is more to this than meets the eye.

[4 Holer]

And SW and United have 1200 jets between them and Delta and American another 1200 together and there are 10 million people in LA, 320 million in land of free with snow ice rain etc ? What Delta flies in 1 year takes ANZ for example 70 years to fly. It would take Toll / Airwork 10,000 years to do same yearly flying as Southwest.
A couple of 737s in NZ and a whopping 3 million people, seems a lot of gear failures at ANZ regional and Airwork if you have a google.:{

No agenda can just sniff there maybe something wrong if the surface ever gets scratched by the regulator.

[waren9]

might wanna do some more fact finding there mate.

the land of the free, that bought us all lags regs, airport xrays and mass shootings by depressed kids in schools and cinemas yeah right.

thanks for that

but as you so rightly pointed out nz is so statistically irrelevant, just 1 incident is going to skew the results.

[4 Holer]

KBoy agree 100% catastrophic failure not just up or folded so lets see what's the story .

and my other friend yes I was wrong it would take them 12000 years to fly the same landings as Southwest. :E

[BPA]

The cockpit section of the TNT B737 is now a simulator (Microsoft based) on the Sunshine Coast.

[Gate_15L]

A couple of 737s in NZ and a whopping 3 million people, seems a lot of gear failures at ANZ regional and Airwork if you have a google.


Well no actually. Statistically if you have a google, B737 gear collapses are very rare on the ZK register. The Air NZ link aircraft gear problems are unrelated to this aircraft type being that they fly Q300s.

When was Airwork's last gear collapse?

There have been multiple main gear collapses on the the 737 all around the world in the past 5 years.

Accident: PIA B733 at Muscat on Feb 11th 2013, main gear collapse on landing (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=45d93bd3&opt=0)
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/391328-malaysian-b737-4-main-gear-collapse.html
Accident: Shaheen B734 at Karachi on Apr 22nd 2012, left main gear collapse on landing (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=44e6328b&opt=0)
Accident: Sky Airlines B734 at Antalya on Oct 10th 2011, gear collapse on landing (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=444461f4&opt=0)
Accident: Aeromexico B737 at San Francisco on Jul 21st 2009, gear collapse (http://www.avherald.com/h?article=41d0e9f9&opt=0)

And I believe the last US gear collapse was Southwest's gear collapse, when somebody attempted to land on the nose gear first.

How many of these incidents occurred on the ZK register?

So I ask again, what is your beef with Airwork. Why are you so interested in slagging a small relatively unknown operator based in the South Pacific that operate a rag tag fleet of B737 classics seemingly that your based all the way in FL?

[Square Bear]

Warren9 and the like,

your post has WHAT to do with a busted B737 at HIR!!

At least 4 Holer is on subject......

And my take, well it is busted and looks Flaps 1, so leading edge deployed as would be expected.

HIR is 2200m long, with Domestic taxy way around 1800m in from RW 24.

Relevance, don't know what runway the aircraft landed , if 24, seems early in the peace to be retracting flap (unless very light and thus slow), if 06 would have thought flaps up would be normal...not unusual at all to clean up on the runway considering such a short taxyway to either the International/Domestic tarmac.

[waren9]

and us carrier movement stats is on topic. sorry mate clearly i misunderstood

shall not humour (humor?) the troll any further

[Gate_15L]

I'll humour him.. or is that spelt humor him....

So 4 Holer, you start a thread, well 3 threads on a B737F that has a gear collapse in HIR.

http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/532757-crash-toll-airwork-boeing-737f-zk-tlc-honiara.html
http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/532758-toll-b737-crash-honiara.html
http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/532687-crash-toll-pae-boeing-737f-honiara.html

Interesting choice of words too.. lets emphasize the word CRASH.. and not gear collapse.

You want this thread on the gear collapse kept open.
TW. Good keep the thread open. Have photos coming under the aircraft, smashed wheelwell and gear ripped out will post.:E

Talk about Schadenfreude....

Lets throw a few wild allegations in there too..

MAYBE THEY WERE TRYING TO GO AROUND BEFORE GOING IN THE GRASS.

You mention you fly/flew DC8s

I have only flown 3/4 engines 72/74/DC8s ??

You also mention that your heading to BNE on the HeavyLift DC8.

I am heading down that way soon on the HEAVYLIFT DC8-73F will spend most time in Brisbane.

There happens to be one DC8 doing the BNE-POM run..

http://ybbn.********.co.nz/2013/12/douglas-dc-8-73f-ob-2059p.html (*******) = b l o g spot

And I see you have a healthy dislike for the B737F, fair enough, personal opinion...
http://www.pprune.org/freight-dogs/480245-dc-8-71-72-f.html#post7088234

You also allude to the fact that it's crazy, damn crazy I tell you, that a NZ operator can be based out of BNE flying to the Pacific.

J.M.

I received a few P.Ms seems that its NZ rego allows Toll to operate Australia domestic under NZCAA away from the CASA who the PMs say are more strict for Australia domestic.
That sounds real crazy like if the Canadians could come fly domestic in USA and Vice versa WTF...............

Seems luck ran out today if they are what you say, wonder if the gear has records back to berth ??

BTW,did a bit of googling seven planes ALL different 733F,734F,737P,734P from all over the place no way would the FEDS (FAA) let you run on 121 cert so many variables/types and pax with such a small fleet .................Must have a friendly CAA inspector or two

So heres guessing that your on a ex N registered DC8, that happens to be technically based in POM, but really out of BNE, operating on a Peruvian register... talk about kettle calling pot...

Heavylift Cargo re-registers its DC-8-73(F) in Peru - ch-aviation.com (http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/24445-heavylift-cargo-re-registers-its-dc-8-73f-in-peru)

So putting two and too together.. Airwork are your competitors.

[troppo]

Gate 15
Good Post

[tail wheel]

I suspect NZ registered B737s operating in Australian air space may be a tad safer operation than Philippines registered B727-100/200's and a Short Belfast and now a Peruvian registered DC8-73 operating in Australian air space, eh 4 Holer? :E

[4 Holer]

No idea TW, but the United Aircraft I'm on certainly are safer check the stats.

[Wally Mk2]

Lots of work gone into that post 'Gatey' not too sure why you would bother I mean there's lots of people on here who have an agenda etc & the furter you delve the more you 'feed' these guys & the end result is a Mod slams it shut & then it gets re-invented as we have seen here, all amusing really & at the end of the day really who cares?:)


Wmk2

[clark y]

I'm just going to wait for the report. Should be easy to figure out.

[j3pipercub]

Didn't know United still flew DC8s 4holer?

Good job Mr 15L

[Fris B. Fairing]

Presumably they have moved the aircraft clear of the runway?

I just hope they didn't use the bulldozer mentioned in post #3.

[Gate_15L]

Lots of work gone into that post 'Gatey' not too sure why you would bother...

Cause it just wasn't right.

Pretty poor form to bag and take pleasure in what is a reasonably serious incident that could have involved injuries, involving your competitor..

I'm sure other more civilized operators don't take pleasure in watching their competitors literally crash and burn.

[Iron Bar]

It appears that if the TE flaps were extended any greater then the position in the photos (F1, F2 or F5 perhaps?) when the gear failed, there would have been much more damage to the inboard TE flap from the (collapsing) outboard RH main wheel?

Would a flap asymmetry at 1,2 or 5 mean a landing at the existing flap setting? I recall an OzJet early model 73 having a LE flap drama in Noumea, I think? Badly broken actuator?

[4 Holer]

IB,

That was the initial question why are the flaps up and when......

G15

God luv's a scandal, but I am not your competitor but thanks for the compliment. I have no idea of your competition where, when , route etc but I can tell you from experience a little about a B767F and -73F . I would suggest on a mid length route say 3-7 hours with 50,000 - 100,000 pound payload a B767F or-73F will wipe the floor with a B737F on a per pound basis. Is this what you are panicking about ?? Lets stick to topic you can go start another thread.

[porch monkey]

Sure, and if you only have 10 -30,000 lbs to shift, what's the point of paying for a 767? The 737 does that fine, and cheaper. I'm sure that if Toll needed to shift 50 to 100,000 lbs, then they would seriously value your input......:rolleyes:

[Gate_15L]

And the 767 F has to do with HIR how?!?!?!

Talk about not sticking to topic!

Do you seriously just open your mouth to just change feet?!!

The topic is why are you so keen to bag Toll/Airwork ?!

[4 Holer]

Monkey you are exactly correct, it was G15 speaking about DC8s and competition, I simply pointed out how can the 767F/-73F which are in a different market compete on a light short sector.

It has nothing to do with anything that's why I suggested G15 start a new thread if he wanted to slag off his competition he was speaking about.

Let just stick to the smashed Toll/Airwork 737 in HIR. I am getting some new photos tomorrow of it dragged off the runway.

[CAR42ZE]

Good to see nobody was hurt in this incident.

On the lighter side, there goes the Brissy based ops spare aircraft for a little while. Looks like the other 3 will be busy for some time (it still is only D, E and F over here is it?)

Get the metro airdarts doing the major routes in the interim and get Avalon to do another 737 conversion.


Oh, wait...

[haughtney1]

15L pure gold mate, and yes I agree with you, very much agenda driven posting, anyone thinking otherwise is deluding themselves.
Airwork have been described by a few I know who have worked there in both positive and negative terms, no different to lots of other places.
Sad to see an airframe most likely written off, but good to see the crew are all alive and healthy.

[Going Nowhere]

ZK-FXT a -400F is around as well.

Oops, my bad! :O

[tail wheel]

...I am not your competitor but thanks for the compliment...

It has nothing to do with anything...

:= ................

[jet_mechanic]

The remaining Airwork freighters based in Aus leased to TOLL are:

ZK-TLD, TLE, FXT are all-300F
ZK-TLF is the -400F

Also based in Aus is ZK-SLA -300 PAX a/c (ex VH-CZA). And ZK-JTQ -400 PAX a/c (ex VH-TJQ). These PAX a/c are leased to the other Pacific carriers when their a/c are US, namely Our Airline and recently Air Vanuatu.

[bankrunner]

Also based in Aus is ZK-SLA -300 PAX a/c (ex VH-CZA).

That bird's gotta be as old as some of the blokes flying it now. Must have 80,000 hours on it?

[compressor stall]

Come on Taily, post the IP Address. :8. Please?

[Australianguy]

I guess the CAA will be taking a close look at the circumstances surrounding this incident. I think it is lucky the New Zealand CAA has oversight of Airwork and not CASA, otherwise none of their aircraft would be flying (based on the way CASA do business). I have been told that they do not have a safety department or safety manager in Australia and all oversight is done from New Zealand. This may change following the accident.

If it was just a case of the gear collapsing then it is unfortunate for the two guys at the pointy end. Talk about bad luck.

[jet_mechanic]

This is definitely not a simple gear collapsing incident. I have worked (fixed) many of B737s in my life and this is a catastrophic failure of what looks to me like the LWR Side Brace attachment to the strut leg.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m51/al_etya/IMG_4330.jpg (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/al_etya/media/IMG_4330.jpg.html)
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m51/al_etya/IMG_2557.jpg (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/al_etya/media/IMG_2557.jpg.html)
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m51/al_etya/IMG_6108.jpg (http://s101.photobucket.com/user/al_etya/media/IMG_6108.jpg.html)

[dodo whirlygig]

"I guess the CAA will be taking a close look"


And what makes you think that? They'll leave it to their cuzzi bros.

[Gate_15L]

It looks very similar in damage to the Malaysian B737 400 gear collapse. The main gear aft bearing was implicated in that incident.

Wonder when this 767F is going to show up? :E

[Chris2303]

Anyway the crew are OK, the aircraft may be repairable (or not) and the NZ TAIC will take their usual 2 years to finish the report.

[4 Holer]

Take a look at the side view photo of the blown tire. The bearing circlip is popped off and there is no hubcap bolts missing ???
No hubcap no anti skid ( non or a lot of brake ) ?

I Presume the crew did not remove it in that position so who changed the wheel in BNE :ugh:

Do you think the tire was deflating ( or was at 80psi shipping pressure ) on departure it has run a lot more than just the touchdown looking at the wear on the sidewall, look how much the sidewall rubber is worn around the hub and it is a new looking tire, seems to have blown out the side.

Can some technical people take a look and advise, I know tires get real hot when under (psi) serviced at high aircraft weights ????

[dodo whirlygig]

" I have only flown 3/4 engines 72/74/DC8s ?? "


and


"Take a look at the side view photo of the blown tire. The bearing circlip is popped off and there is no hubcap bolts missing ???
No hubcap no anti skid ( non or a lot of brake ) ?"


You seem to know a lot for a bloke who hasn't flown them!!!!!

[4 Holer]

Where is the hub cap, who changed the wheel.............

[CAR42ZE]

Ya know - even I'm not the smartest engineer in the shed - but I reckon an incident that can do that sort of damage to the undercarriage may just be enough to possibly break the measly little screw heads lockwired together and shimmy the circlip out due to the extreme forces.

I mean the wheel is still on the axle! Nothing to see here, time to move on...

[Capt Claret]

Could the aircraft have been configured for take-off rather than landing when the gear failed?

[Gate_15L]

4 HolerTake a look at the side view photo of the blown tire. The bearing circlip is popped off and there is no hubcap bolts missing ???No hubcap no anti skid ( non or a lot of brake ) ?
I Presume the crew did not remove it in that position so who changed the wheel in BNE:ugh:

*Do you think the tire was deflating ( or was at 80psi shipping pressure ) on departure it has run a lot more than just the touchdown looking at the wear on the sidewall, look how much the sidewall rubber is worn around the hub and it is a new looking tire, seems to have blown out the side.

God luv's a scandal
Seems so do you eh 4 Holer?

[fruitloop]

I would like to see a piccy of the front trunnion mount...Before making a comment and/or making a song/dance..

[SRM]

Having changed numerous 737-300 MLG's in the past, they not easy to remove and install.

If you look at the trunnions they are both exposed and appear to be intact.

Could be a major failure of either the fwd or aft MLG supports as suggested on some earlier posts.

And for old mate 4 holes, plenty of aircraft have landed with main wheels deflated, antiskid inop or strut deflated and they have not resulted in a MLG collapse.

[4 Holer]

Seeing it was not so bad have they popped the gear back in it yet and Ferried to NZ ??

[zanzibar]

Yer flogging a dead horse, holer. No-one's interested. Yer can tell by the lack of replies - especially to your posts..

[Oakape]

Could be a major failure of either the fwd or aft MLG supports as suggested on some earlier posts.

If I remember correctly, Ansett had something similar happen on one of the 737-300's. Gear wouldn't come up on departure at Melbourne, but they got 3 greens when they selected it back down. Landed back at MEL Ok & the problem was found when the gear was inspected. It was suggested that they were very lucky that the gear didn't collapse.

[4 Holer]

So heard a little bird saying Boeing going to patch it up ......:{

[zanzibar]

"Yer flogging a dead horse, holer. No-one's interested. Yer can tell by the lack of replies - especially to your posts.. "


It takes a lot for yer to get the message, eh?

[Square Bear]

Maybe 4 holer is trying to get work for a 4 holer that is doing "jack" in Brissie.

[4 Holer]

Square Bear what's in "Brissy" you refer, you seem a little angry :eek:

[Mach E Avelli]

For that 4 holer parked at BNE to fly to or from any Australian port will require issue of a FAOC. Just a minor detail, of course, but it will require someone in CASA to make a courageous decision.

[4 Holer]

I would think your A340 is finishing up soon, everyone out of the Middle East.....

[compressor stall]

Funny that a regular Fin Review reader would not be acquainted with the term Brissy.

[j3pipercub]

4 Holer, are you really Compylot?