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broadreach
25th Jan 2014, 19:04
Passengers on a Gol 737 from Cuiaba to Sao Paulo that was diverted to Galeao yesterday (24 Jan) due to weather took matters into their own hands after two hours on the apron.

Por causa de atraso em voo, passageiros sobem na asa de avião - brasil - geral - Estadão (http://www.estadao.com.br/noticias/cidades,por-causa-de-atraso-em-voo-passageiros-sobem-na-asa-de-aviao,1122628,0.htm)

No idea what happened afterwards.

highflyer40
25th Jan 2014, 19:18
I have to say I can't read Portuguese so in the dark as to the full story, but I'm amazed it doesn't happen more frequently.

11Fan
25th Jan 2014, 19:25
Google Translates it as follows:

RIO - Angered by the delay to be allowed to disembark from a plane at Galeão airport in northern Rio, on the night of Friday, passengers on a flight from Gol broke the emergency doors of the aircraft, threw objects at runway and came to climb a wing player.

The flight had left Cuiabá (MT) towards the Congonhas airport in the south of São Paulo. But due to bad weather in the state capital, the aircraft can not land and was sent to Rio de Janeiro.

Passengers said they had waited over two hours for the aircraft doors were opened. As this did not happen, they broke the door and left.

The airline Gol said it would issue a note about the episode, but did not manifest until 22 hours this Friday.

broadreach
25th Jan 2014, 22:42
Thanks for the translation 11Fan. Still don't know from the local press what happened afterwards. Gol must be in contortions to keep a muzzle on the outcome; had it happened in Europe or the US I've no doubt those who opened the exits would have been in for at least a few days in the clink and hefty fines but in Brazil I think it's caught everyone off balance. If it's not dealt with severely, and seen to be, I wouldn't be surprised if there are copycat events.

There were many flights to Sao Paulo rerouted yesterday due to violent afternoon thunderstorms; they've been part of the landscape for the last fortnight and the weather forecast for the coming weeks promise more of the same.

alisoncc
25th Jan 2014, 23:24
had it happened in Europe or the US I've no doubt those who opened the exits would have been in for at least a few days in the clink and hefty finesWikipedia states: To prevail under a false imprisonment claim, a plaintiff must prove: (1) willful detention; (2) without consent; and (3) without authority of law.

So does an airline have a legal right to imprison its customers, and for how long?

lomapaseo
25th Jan 2014, 23:55
How high were they when they decided to walk on the wing

broadreach
26th Jan 2014, 00:04
Alisoncc, it wouldn't be the airline imprisoning its passengers, would it? I'm not acquainted with the legal nuances but would expect that if passengers opened emergency exits on an aircraft either the airport authority or the airline would be justified in calling in the police.

Most worrying is the possible precedent set - in Brazil at least - if those who opened the emergency exits just walk away or are released with a slap on the wrist. And, surely, the airline would be justified in pressing charges against those passengers for willful damage of the aircraft, downtime etc. By opening the hatches they have effectively immobilized the aircraft which, even after a two-hour wait, might well have been able to take off and deliver passengers to the planned destination.

broadreach
26th Jan 2014, 00:07
Loma, 9' or so; 2,000' might have solved the legal aspect :p

11Fan
26th Jan 2014, 00:28
Designated Smoking Area?

llondel
26th Jan 2014, 03:50
I know of aircraft flying into the US that had to divert to an airport without customs and immigration facilities and the passengers were held on the aircraft for much longer than two hours. A former work colleague, as someone who could speak both English and the native language of many of those on board found himself on the front line of the "discussions".

alisoncc
26th Jan 2014, 04:52
Alisoncc, it wouldn't be the airline imprisoning its passengers, would it? I'm not acquainted with the legal nuances but would expect that if passengers opened emergency exits on an aircraft either the airport authority or the airline would be justified in calling in the police. Given the litigious nature of todays society, how long could a private company seek to restrain it's passengers before it does become false imprisonment and subject to legal action?

Numerous instances where shopkeepers, car-parking companies, even local councils have attempted to prevent people leaving some premises or other to their cost. Invariably there has been some belief on the part of the restrainer that they can do whatever they like in the interests of "public safety". If an aircraft is parked on the ground at an airport can the aircrew legally stop passengers from disembarking?

Rwy in Sight
26th Jan 2014, 06:41
If an aircraft is parked on the ground at an airport can the aircrew legally stop passengers from disembarking?

Based on reading another thread a long time ago, the airline asks/ requests pax to remain on board if the pax handling facilities are not adequate.So if I do remember the argument correctly pax that think they are illegally held aboard, they can leave an aircraft but they face legal issues for walking in the apron without an escort.


Rwy in Sight

broadreach
26th Jan 2014, 16:01
Followup: Seems it was possible to refit the overwing exit doors and the aircraft departed Galeao at 22:22 for Congonhas. Gol released a statement to the effect that "basic safety regulations were broken" etc and that those involved "could be" subject to legal sanctions. I take that to mean they're not going after the passengers who opened the exits.

Gol also say they had no option but to park at the cargo terminal at Galeao as directed by ground traffic control. And, with the backlog of aircraft diverted from Sao Paulo to Galeao and Viracopos and waiting for clearance back to SP, they were truly stuck in a no-win situation. Passengers complained about no air-conditioning and no information.

On a site (Revoltados com atraso, passageiros forçam portas de emergência e "protestam" em asa de avião - Notícias - Cotidiano (http://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/ultimas-noticias/2014/01/24/revoltados-com-atraso-passageiros-quebram-portas-de-emergencia-e-protestam-em-asa-de-aviao.htm)) that followed the incident up there are numerous Twitter messages citing the lack of preparedness of both airlines and airports for this type of delay and predicting similar incidents and more chaos during the World Cup.

Edit: sorry, the site with the tweets is Revoltados com atraso, passageiros quebram portas de emergência e "protestam" em asa de avião - Notí*cias - Cotidiano | noticias.uol.com.br | | Brasil | 20140125 | hOJ | Iberoamerica.net (http://www.iberoamerica.net/brasil/prensa-generalista/noticias.uol.com.br/20140125/noticia.html?id=hOJB2f3)