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LTNman
24th Jan 2014, 05:51
60th anniversary this month of the Aldbury air disaster which killed 16 of the 17 occupants of a Valetta at Toms Hill, Ashridge.

16 DIE IN R.A.F. CRASH - British Pathé (http://www.britishpathe.com/video/16-die-in-r-a-f-crash/query/bovingdon).

I have live in this area for many years and never knew about this crash but apparently many of the trees still show the scars of that snowy day.

Old-Duffer
24th Jan 2014, 06:14
The sole survivor owes his life to the fact that he was sitting in the loo at the time. He went on to become a Wg Cdr helicopter pilot but I think he may now be dead.


The accident appears to have been some confusion about free lanes and climb out from Bovingdon.


If your interest is for detail, post here and I'll list the pax and crew.


Old Duffer

DaveReidUK
24th Jan 2014, 06:36
air force | flag officer | thorney island | 1954 | 0169 | Flight Archive (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1954/1954%20-%200169.html)

Wander00
24th Jan 2014, 08:16
DR - the adjacent promotion list makes interesting reading - some well known names, and almost all with wartime decorations.

Warmtoast
24th Jan 2014, 09:54
As reported in the press at the time.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Image1_zpsba8cf791.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Image2_zpsc84e7ec4.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Image3_zps99547c1a.jpg

Pom Pax
27th Jan 2014, 01:57
I have always understood that this accident was the catalyst for the introduction of rearward facing seats in U.K. military aircraft.
And before some bright spark says so except for the pilots.

P.S Was there not a similar accident at about the same time with unfortunately about 28 deaths?

Warmtoast
27th Jan 2014, 11:29
Pom Pax

P.S Was there not a similar accident at about the same time with unfortunately about 28 deaths?

There's an interesting article where the advantages of rearward facing seats were put forward. The article entitled “On Going Forward Backwards” appeared in Flight Magazine for 16th July 1954 here:

1954 | 2070 | Flight Archive (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1954/1954%20-%202070.html)

This inter-alia states:




…………..The advantages claimed for the aft-facing seat can be summed up very simply. A large majority of casualties in aircraft accidents result from the deceleration produced by impact with the ground, varying from, say, 1g in a smooth belly-landing and 20-40g in more severe crashes leaving the fuselage wholly or partly intact. Properly supported, the human frame can withstand the highest deceleration likely to be encountered in any crash which is basically “survivable” — one in which complete crushing, burning or disintegration of the fuselage does not occur.

Protagonists of the backward-facing seat maintain that this is the best method of providing such protection because (a) it places a shield between the body and the most likely sources of injury and (b) because the back of the human body is stronger than the front. Expressed in its simplest terms, the argument for the aft-facing seat is that in any given set of circumstances it is safer than the forward-facing seat.

Evidence to support this theory is convincing but by no means conclusive from a technical viewpoint. Indeed, as no two accidents can be identical in their nature, it is difficult to see how conclusive proof could ever be obtained. Essential details of the major accidents to aircraft equipped with backward-facing seats are as follows:

On December 20th, 1950, an R.A.F. Hastings crashed at Benina after an airscrew blade had torn into the fuselage, severely injuring one of the crew and jamming the elevator and rudder controls. While attempting to land on two engines it undershot and crashed heavily. All five members of the crew were killed (a point which indicates the severity of the impact without necessarily affecting the seating controversy), but the 26 passengers, who, with one exception, were in 15g rearward-facing seats, escaped without serious injury. On February 18th, 1951, an R.A.F. Valetta crashed into a wooded hill near Stockholm during a single-engined overshoot in bad visibility. One of the crew of three was killed and all 18 passengers, in 20g rearward-facing seats, escaped with minor injuries. Another Valetta crashed near Boscombe Down on November 25th, 1952, after being in collision with a Venom. The nine passengers (paratroops) stepped out of their rearward facing seats unhurt, and the crew of four all received injuries. In a third Valetta accident, at Lyneham, on January 20th this year, one of the crew of five was killed and four injured; the six passengers, all in aft-facing seats, received only very slight injuries.

Both theory and practice, then, show that there is a strong case for fitting rearward-facing seats in transport aircraft.

pa571
10th May 2017, 13:57
The sole survivor owes his life to the fact that he was sitting in the loo at the time. He went on to become a Wg Cdr helicopter pilot but I think he may now be dead.


The accident appears to have been some confusion about free lanes and climb out from Bovingdon.


If your interest is for detail, post here and I'll list the pax and crew.


Old Duffer
The sole survivor is Patrick Dewhirst Cliff retired Wing Commander OBE, who i still alive. Herts memories website contains a list of the deceased .