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ZOOKER
18th Jan 2014, 19:10
Now that The Sun appears to be going out, do we need to worry about 'global warming'?

tony draper
18th Jan 2014, 19:42
In the old days they knew how to stop the Sun going out or persuade it to come back and warm the place up,it involved manufacturing a large hollow man out of wicker and rounding up various unpopular citizens to occupy said wicker work man.
:E

MG23
18th Jan 2014, 19:52
No. The Global Warmers have said many times that the sun doesn't have any significant effect on the Earth's climate, honest, mate.

awblain
18th Jan 2014, 20:12
The Sun has a profound impact on Earth's climate - just a really really steady one, to within one part in thirteen hundred over the ~11-year cycle. Should that cycle stop, then the chance of any impact is not great. Compare the annual 3.3% distance change to the Sun around the orbit, with a 6.7% change in heating.

More Australian record summer temperatures - Earth and Sun are closest in the austral summer - are probably more indicative of the situation warming wise than the level of magnetic activity on the Sun.

And if you want to fall back on something solid and global, there's always the global-averaged sea surface temperature.

rh200
18th Jan 2014, 22:56
Scientists baffled as Sun activity falls to century low | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/scientists-baffled-as-sun-activity-falls-to-century-low/story-fnjwlcze-1226805090679)

Not the best source, but they are predicting Europe to get the brunt of it. Might be time to start buying up those coal shares whilst there low:p.

Should that cycle stop, then the chance of any impact is not great

Not entirely true, though its effect over a 11 year cycle is little, there's various cummulative effects that can occur if it changes over a longer time frame. Hence the mini ice age a couple of century's ago.

N210KD
18th Jan 2014, 23:12
"Now that The Sun appears to be going out, do we need to worry about 'global warming'?"

It depends on who you listen to. The fear mongers are busy keeping the sheep worried.

rh200
19th Jan 2014, 00:47
The fear mongers are busy keeping the sheep worried.

We shouldn't be using racial profiling and insinuating kiwi's are fear mongers.:E

Nervous SLF
19th Jan 2014, 00:57
We shouldn't be using racial profiling and insinuating Aussies and the Welsh are fear mongers.:E


There one is happy to correct your statement for you as one understands who you really meant. ;);)

rh200
19th Jan 2014, 02:45
We shouldn't be using racial profiling and insinuating Aussies and the Welsh are fear mongers

Actually the sheep a too scroungy and dirty from the north parts, potty calves.:p

Takan Inchovit
19th Jan 2014, 08:33
Think I might start investing in coal shares.

ORAC
19th Jan 2014, 08:42
Scientists baffled as Sun activity falls to century low | News.com.au if they are then they've been living in a cave for the last 20 years......

I pointed it out here (http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/393483-british-science-museum-climate-change-poll-6.html#post5280898) nigh on 4 years ago, and NASA forecast it many, many years ago - and proclaimed it's arrival back in 2006 (http://science1.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2006/06mar_solarminimum/).

Sallyann1234
19th Jan 2014, 08:43
Why is everyone calling it the Sun? The sun surely, not the bloody paper!

handsfree
19th Jan 2014, 09:16
Ah, but, well - the Sun i.e our sun is a proper noun and should be spelt with a capital letter.

As in "Are all suns as hot as our Sun ?" or "our moon is called the Moon".

Depends on whether you're using the common or proper noun.

radeng
19th Jan 2014, 11:41
Purely coincidental then that the Maunder minimum coincided with very cold weather for a long period. Also purely coincidental that in the early 1500's, oranges could be grown outdoors in southern England, while in the 1200s, Greenland WAS green.

It does seem noticeable that the one thing the Greens seem to keep very quiet about is the generally ignored necessity for population control.

cockney steve
19th Jan 2014, 12:54
one thing the Greens seem to keep very quiet about is the generally ignored necessity for population control.

I thought they were doing their bit in that direction.
It's generally acknowledged that the majority are a bunch of wankers.

radeng
19th Jan 2014, 22:02
Steve,

it needs more than them to stop breeding!

Anyway, how do you know that they are wan*ers? What evidence do you have that they have the necessary mental and physical co-ordination to be wan*ers?

awblain
19th Jan 2014, 22:14
rh200,

There's no evidence for any "cumulative effects" over decades in variation in solar power. While that doesn't mean they don't exist, there's no sign that there's any effect as powerful as the well-established ice-age-related orbital changes.

The causes, and indeed the reality, of "little ice ages", "medieval warm periods" and "roman warm periods" are uncertain.

Loose rivets
20th Jan 2014, 05:33
When it gets too hot, Gaia turns the sun down a tad.

Yes, the sun, or it would be, Gaia turns Sun down a tad. Or better still, Gaia turns Sol down a tad.

sitigeltfel
20th Jan 2014, 05:49
It does seem noticeable that the one thing the Greens seem to keep very quiet about is the generally ignored necessity for population control.

It is a deliberate ploy to prepare for the introduction of Soylent Green.