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OFSO
16th Jan 2014, 13:12
Until a couple of days ago, I (and thousands like me) used an app called "beeb anywhere" which downloaded BBC news stories and kept them on my tablet for perusal. Beeb anywhere has been going for quite a few years, always worked very well.

Until it stopped working this week.

The guy who wrote this app has apologised and explained that the BBC have cut the feed to his app, and have also asked Google to remove it from the Play Store. Fair enough, I thought, I'd be happy to pay the BBC for an app displaying their news stories. But when I tried to download it, I got "This application is not available in your country".

Thanks BBC for your helpful attitude.

PTT
16th Jan 2014, 13:18
https://www.tunnelbear.com/

Little program which proxies your device to the relevant country so that applications can run as if you were there. That should fix your issue.

Doesn't detract from your frustration with the BBC, I'm sure, but if the "application is not available in your country" I have to ask if you are paying the licence fee which would (presumably) allow you to access their content.

Sallyann1234
16th Jan 2014, 13:39
The BBC used to have engineering facilities and staff that led the world, with skills across the spectrum from programme production through to transmission. Now everything technical has been closed down, sold off, outsourced, freelanced - anything to get rid of things that the luvvies don't understand.
Money is now spent only on celeb presenters and badly-managed bought-in projects.
On the web you will find ex-BBC staff weeping with frustration at the poor standards they now have to watch.
Another British pioneering achievement chucked into the bin of history.

OFSO
16th Jan 2014, 13:57
paying the licence fee which would (presumably) allow you to access their content.

I would be very happy to pay such a fee: but the BBC thinks otherwise.

R

PTT
16th Jan 2014, 13:58
Then just use tunnelbear as linked above. It's very simple and works a treat.

KBPsen
16th Jan 2014, 14:20
Hmmm. The BBC News app is free and accessible from everywhere.

Dak Man
16th Jan 2014, 14:48
Yay for tunnelbear, been using it for a year or 2 and no probs, $50 / yr unlimited access and streaming of all UK TV :ok: apple / android / PC versions.

Link via Apple TV and watch all on the big screen :D

OFSO
16th Jan 2014, 19:44
Hmmm. The BBC News app is free and accessible from everywhere.

Yay for tunnelbear,

I obviously didn't make it clear what I want.

A text summary of the news (not TV or radio) which downloads at set intervals and is stored for off-line use on my tablet with selectable categories.

Beeb Anywhere was perfect.

radeng
16th Jan 2014, 20:01
Sallyann hit the nail on the head. Engineers? BBC? Don't want any of them in their oily overalls! Use consultants and contractors!

If you listen to the news, the luvvies make more of a fuss of some actor/actress/film star dying than major news elsewhere. Every day on R4 there is an 'Arts' programme: there's no regular Science/technology/engineering programme - because the luvvies are too dim to understand it. Plus there's a very obvious left wing bias on news programmes, too.

Bring back Lord Reith!

KBPsen
16th Jan 2014, 21:52
I obviously didn't make it clear what I want.You did. A good moan by the looks of it.

So what app was it that you paid for but couldn't download?

PTT
17th Jan 2014, 06:42
I obviously didn't make it clear what I want.You did, you just don't understand what you are being told.

Install tunnelbear and tell it your location is in the UK (or wherever the app you want to use works from), then download and run the app. It will work without telling you that "This application is not available in your country".

ukc_mike
17th Jan 2014, 10:39
Install tunnelbear and tell it your location is in the UK (or wherever the app you want to use works from), then download and run the app. It will work without telling you that "This application is not available in your country".

Won't work. The location you have to change is the google store location. This is based on where google thought you were when you created your google account.

It's changeable, but only by associating a credit card with your google account (to buy apps etc.) and then it associates with the address of your credit card.

Of course I'd like to be proved wrong...

racedo
17th Jan 2014, 10:45
Worldwide VPNs do the same as Tunnerbear do they not ?

defizr
17th Jan 2014, 10:57
If you listen to the news, the luvvies make more of a fuss of some actor/actress/film star dying than major news elsewhere. Every day on R4 there is an 'Arts' programme: there's no regular Science/technology/engineering programme - because the luvvies are too dim to understand it. Plus there's a very obvious left wing bias on news programmes, too.

BBC Radio - Programmes - A to Z, Science (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/programmes/a-z/by/science/current)

BBC Radio 4 - More or Less, 17/01/2014 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03pmk7p)

BBC - Search results for science (http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/schedule/?q=science)

OFSO
17th Jan 2014, 13:30
So what app was it that you paid for but couldn't download?

I didn't and I could. Take medication and read my message.

Metro man
17th Jan 2014, 16:21
Try MEDIA HINT, only works with FIREFOX and CHROME though.

http://www.mediahint.com

KBPsen
17th Jan 2014, 16:25
First you said:
Fair enough, I thought, I'd be happy to pay the BBC for an app displaying their news stories. But when I tried to download it, I got "This application is not available in your country".Now you say:
I didn't and I could. Both can't be true.

brickhistory
6th Jul 2014, 15:07
So when I think of impartial news reporting, I think of the BBC:


BBC To Cut Air Time For Climate Change Skeptics | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/05/bbc-to-cut-air-time-for-climate-change-skeptics/)

Fox3WheresMyBanana
6th Jul 2014, 15:31
The problem is that the BBC has a habit of getting cranks to represent the contrary view to "accepted" wisdom, and now because of this they won't be getting anybody. What they should be doing is looking harder for sceptics.

Instead of seeking completely opposing views, they should be looking for experts who can highlight the areas of doubt and potentially dodgy logic. Science isn't as black and white as their soundbite mentality would like it to be.

500N
6th Jul 2014, 15:42
Like this, even though it is in the DM, it is who wrote it that is important.

It's politics not science that is driving the climate change mania: UN predictions subject of ridicule because of their stunning failure | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2681812/Its-politics-not-science-driving-climate-change-mania-UN-predictions-subject-ridicule-stunning-failure.html)

goldfrog
6th Jul 2014, 16:25
Sallyann hit the nail on the head. Engineers? BBC? Don't want any of them in their oily overalls! Use consultants and contractors!

If you listen to the news, the luvvies make more of a fuss of some actor/actress/film star dying than major news elsewhere. Every day on R4 there is an 'Arts' programme: there's no regular Science/technology/engineering programme - because the luvvies are too dim to understand it. Plus there's a very obvious left wing bias on news programmes, too.

Bring back Lord Reith!

Think you will find it is BBC engineers that have blocked non-license payers from easily accessing the programmes that the license pays for??

vulcanised
6th Jul 2014, 16:33
Where do they find all these (ever younger) Doctors and Professors?

Pretty soon, the way we're going, there will be some with a doctorate on leaving junior school.

If only more of them looked like Dr Susannah Lipscomb on Hidden Killers.

Krystal n chips
6th Jul 2014, 16:34
You can only imagine the delight of many on here if the BBC were to kindly produce a Home Service app.

Tankertrashnav
6th Jul 2014, 17:00
Every day on R4 there is an 'Arts' programme: there's no regular Science/technology/engineering programme


I think that is gradually changing. Every Tuesday morning at 9.05 am Jim Al-Khalilli presents The Life Scientific. Thursday at 4.30 pm we have Inside Science. Then there is The Infinite Monkey Cage on Mondays at 4.30 although personally I find it impossible to listen to, with its annoying jokey atmosphere and the ever-irritating Brian Cox! There is also a regular programme about mathematical probabilities whose title I can't remember. In addition Thursday morning's In Our Time frequently finds the arts guru Melvyn Bragg making a brave attempt to get to grips with quantom theory, astro-physics and the like, which usually leaves me thinking "wtf was that all about?" (and Melvyn too, I suspect!)

Agreed there is still too much of an imbalance in favour of the arts, but I dont think it's as bad as you make out.

Gertrude the Wombat
6th Jul 2014, 18:57
Where do they find all these (ever younger) Doctors and Professors?
The producers have lists of people who know their way around various fields. My wife (academic publisher) is on at least one such list, she gets calls asking "can you recommend a pundit on such-and-such?".

MadsDad
6th Jul 2014, 19:10
There is also a regular programme about mathematical probabilities whose title I can't remember.

Now what are the odds against that, eh?

Tankertrashnav
6th Jul 2014, 22:47
In my case odds on :(

ExXB
7th Jul 2014, 09:36
I use feedly (http://feedly.com/#explore%2F%23news) as my news aggregator. Not only the BBC but everything from the local journal to some big famous news places. It does some sites normally behind paywalls. (although clicking within a link does encounter said paywalls)

For iOS and Andoroid.

sitigeltfel
7th Jul 2014, 09:57
Most news feeds running with stories and pictures of the desecration of the 7/7 memorial in Hyde Park last night. Pro muslim graffiti stencilled on the pillars.

Nothing on the BBC site as yet!

EGTE
7th Jul 2014, 10:12
It was reported on the BBC radio news this morning. Perhaps graffiti isn't big news.

Tankertrashnav
7th Jul 2014, 14:42
On the BBC1 News at One, with pics.

Blacksheep
7th Jul 2014, 14:59
There's always "Al Jazeera" - we watch it for world news.
I do watch BBC documentaries and some of them are good. Apart from that, the internet always has a bit about anything you fancy and it's pretty easy to find things to meet your interests. The BBC is far too parochial and it's outlook suffers from being run by metropolitan middle-class socialists. The BBC World Service was useful for keeping abreast of UK events when I was an expat, though.

All a good reason to abolish the licence fee in my view. Paying tax to be allowed to watch public broadcasts of moving images on an electronc device is so last century. :hmm:

Sallyann1234
7th Jul 2014, 15:16
All a good reason to abolish the licence fee in my view. Paying tax to be allowed to watch public broadcasts of moving images on an electronc device is so last century.

So how would you prefer to pay for BBC TV and radio then Blacksheep?

Government subsidy? You pay for that with income tax.
Commercials? You pay for them with a 'tax' on the goods and services you buy.

Nothing is free.

Old and Horrified
8th Jul 2014, 07:59
[QUOTE= There is also a regular programme about mathematical probabilities whose title I can't remember.[/QUOTE]

I think you might be thinking about the excellent programme "More or Less: Behind the Stats" which is still available on iPlayer, I believe. It takes questionable statistics (often from government offices) and re-calculates them, often showing they are fiction.

I was astonished to read a couple of days ago that the new DG of the BBC (anyone know who he is?) gets a base salary of over twice the head of the NHS. Which do you think is the more important or challenging job?

Tankertrashnav
8th Jul 2014, 09:01
O & H - That's the one - now I remember!

For the time being anyway :(

Keef
8th Jul 2014, 09:20
We went to Germany for a couple of weeks at the end of last month. Daughter is living there for the mo. She used to get BBC and ITV on the satellite system, but they've changed over to a new "narrow beam" satellite so that those outside the UK can't watch.

She can receive television from all over Europe and beyond ... except from the UK. I'm sure the Beeb has a good reason for it, probably to do with selling DVDs or some such - but it's a pain.

She now watches through her iPhone and a VPN app, so still gets the stuff she wants but with a bit more faff. It all seems pointless to me.

It was the same in France and Italy last week - hundreds of channels on the hotel TV systems with the notable exception of UK stuff. I wonder who made that "rule" and if I can claim for a refund on my licence...

tdracer
8th Jul 2014, 14:52
On this side of the pond, it's the worst of both worlds - I get BBC America via satellite (DirecTV) who pays BBC per subscriber. Plus, ~15 minutes of commercials/hour, and a good percentage of the shows are simply reruns of old USA shows (e.g. Star Trek Next Generation).

On the plus side I do get to watch Top Gear and Dr. Who only a few weeks after the episodes appear in the UK. Still waiting for that documentary on PQ 17 though.

tilos
8th Jul 2014, 15:15
So the BBC will be ignoring this real data ? Surely not.


Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long Cooling - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/06/25/government-data-show-u-s-in-decade-long-cooling/)

Dushan
8th Jul 2014, 21:03
Instead of seeking completely opposing views, they should be looking for experts who can highlight the areas of doubt and potentially dodgy logic. Science isn't as black and white as their soundbite mentality would like it to be.

But that would detract from the expected narrative.

con-pilot
8th Jul 2014, 21:15
So the BBC will be ignoring this real data ? Surely not.


Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long Cooling - Forbes




The mainstream media, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS and CNN are completely ignoring that here.

Talk about a real inconvenient truth. :E

Sallyann1234
9th Jul 2014, 07:43
It's warmer in some bits, colder in other bits. Droughts in some places, excessive rain in others. But a problem for all of us.
It's called weather. Always changing, always been a problem, always will.

tilos
9th Jul 2014, 08:24
EXXB
I'm personally indifferent to your global warming / change / cooling delusions.
My post was simply regarding the BBC and its charter. They have a responsibility to report all aspects of an important news topic not just one which panders to a particular left wing perspective.
As con-pilot mentions these do seem to be a couple of inconvenient truths.

Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long Cooling - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/06/25/government-data-show-u-s-in-decade-long-cooling/)

Global warming latest: Amount of Antarctic sea ice hits new record high | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2681829/Global-warming-latest-Amount-Antarctic-sea-ice-hits-new-record-high.html)

MagnusP
9th Jul 2014, 09:17
So decade long cooling isn't climate change?

Well, it certainly isn't the anthropogenic global warming that was screamed at us for years, is it?

Tankertrashnav
9th Jul 2014, 09:22
Yawn - dont we have a global warming thread which those of us who find the arguments from both sides tedious can ignore? :*

KBPsen
9th Jul 2014, 09:24
Is rule 7 really so difficult to understand?

Blacksheep
9th Jul 2014, 12:33
Nothing is free. Except a mother's love. ;)

How would I pay for the BBC? I wouldn't. I'd watch something else, just like I do now when there's nothing of interest - there's plenty out there in my world. In the English language too.

OFSO
9th Jul 2014, 15:51
Those of us living outside the UK but in southern continental Europe have been denied direct transmissions of BBC TV and Radio since February this year. The BBC could easily have set up a subscription scheme to pay for the cost of using the European spot beams (and every expat I know would have paid such a sub) but it was easier to ignore the possibility of extra income and just turn us off. There might be some slight justification of "copyright" as far as the home-sourced television programs are concerned (although Italy, Spain, Germany and and France don't bother and send most transmissions unencrypted and for free over the satellites) but there was no justification of removing the radio channels from the ASTRA satellites since these are already broadcast over the ether.

N'er mind, eh ! We're all watching for free over the internet these days and the BBC has lost another source of revenue to pay for all their managers' huge salaries, pensions and leaving pots.

Krystal n chips
9th Jul 2014, 16:34
" We went to Germany for a couple of weeks at the end of last month. Daughter is living there for the mo. She used to get BBC and ITV on the satellite system, but they've changed over to a new "narrow beam" satellite so that those outside the UK can't watch.

She can receive television from all over Europe and beyond ... except from the UK..

It was the same in France and Italy last week - hundreds of channels on the hotel TV systems with the notable exception of UK stuff.

The reason is simple...it's all a pre-emptive action for when the UK leaves the EU....as many wish for....and thus we can live happily in splendid isolation thereafter.

On the other hand, I find it both ironic and amusing that others on here, staunch supporters of UKIP policy....along with probably filling in the Channel Tunnel given half a chance...... now find themselves deprived of the UK television channels.

Capetonian
19th Jul 2014, 04:09
BBC News - MH17 crash: History of passenger planes shot down (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28361223)

Goes back to 1954 and lists 6 incidents. There may be other omissions but the one that struck me was the downing by ZIPRA terrorists of two civilian Air Rhodesia Viscounts in 1978 and 1979 (Hunyani VP-WAS and Umniati VP-YND) and the murder of about 120 people, some on the ground after the crash.

Maybe the omission was accidental, but it would fit with the BBC's left wing bias of supporting the terrorist cowards against the Rhodesian government. I have emailed the BBC but not holding my breath for a reply or correction.

The referenced article omits the shooting down of two Air Rhodesia Viscounts in 1978 and 1979 by ZIPRA terrorist murderers, and the slaughter of survivors on the ground in one case.
Some 120 people died, but this does not seem worthy of mention in your article, perhaps because the BBC view of ZIPRA is that they were 'freedom fighters' intent on bringing down Ian Smith's government.
I hope I am wrong in this contention.

Krystal n chips
19th Jul 2014, 10:12
"Fearless reporting" has long been one of the Beebs outstanding areas when it comes to adverse weather...however, they also excel at hectoring assuming the UK population needs to be addressed in a manner more redolent of the excellent book "Does he take sugar ?" ....enter the latest contestant.

The piece was on pay day loans and located in Swansea. Our contestant sits at a café table and produces 5 x £20 notes, all new, to show the little people what £100 looks like....all the time s p e a k i n g v e r y s l o w l y.. and then proceeds to show us what the interest looks like...in much smaller denominations of course.....and with the same "measured delivery" .

I used to think the gronk who held up a map during the bad winters a couple of years ago and said, with a smirk " and, you'll need one of these" was a front runner, but now appears to have a serious rival, possibly one ahead on points !

Cacophonix
19th Jul 2014, 10:26
Maybe the omission was accidental, but it would fit with the BBC's left wing bias of supporting the terrorist cowards against the Rhodesian government. I have emailed the BBC but not holding my breath for a reply or correction.


A pretty egregious omission for sure but the BBC list is missing a lot more...

List of airliner shootdown incidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents)

In the case of the Rhodesian atrocity, at least, retribution was swift (RIP Chris Dixon).


Caco

brickhistory
15th Aug 2014, 14:57
While perusing the BBC's website, I noticed their country 'fact' sheets.

To note an editorial bias in what is supposed to be a unbiased recitation of the facts, it shows it's either bias by omission or incompetence.


Freedom of expression is guaranteed by the constitution, and some broadcast outlets give airtime to extreme hues of political
- often right-wing - and religious thinking.


BBC News - United States profile - Media (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-16757497)

To be sure, there is conservative ("right-wing") talk radio. But there is also liberal ("left-wing") as well. Enough to qualify as "often."

If the BBC can't refrain from a political bias in a 'fact sheet,' why should one trust them on as-it-happens reporting?

Capetonian
15th Aug 2014, 15:07
Eventually, I got a reply :

Dear Mr xxxxxxx
Reference CAS-................
Thanks for your contact regarding BBC News - MH17 crash: History of passenger planes shot down (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-28361223)
I understand you had concerns that the Viscount disasters weren’t included in the report.
We appreciate the time taken to provide this feedback and this has now been added to the article.
Thanks again for getting in touch.
Kind Regards
Nicola Maguire
BBC Complaints
They weren't disasters, they were acts of genocide by a bunch of howling savages supported by Joshuah Nkomo, who laughed when being interviewed about one of the downings.

Katamarino
15th Aug 2014, 17:10
In the case of the Rhodesian atrocity, at least, retribution was swift (RIP Chris Dixon).

A real contrast to the behaviour of the civilised world after the MH17 shoot down, where everyone in power just stood around with their thumbs up their behinds and let a bunch of Russian thugs with AKs trash the crash site :*

Capetonian
4th Sep 2014, 21:01
Daily Telegraph :

Catering worker Freda Odame, 30, said she heard a commotion and pulled back her curtains and saw a black man aged in his mid 20s. “Someone was shouting and the door was banging. I could hear the screaming but I could not hear what he was saying,” she said.
"I could see that he had a big curved knife, about the size of an arm's length and he was crouching as if frantically searching for something.
"He had a crazed look in his eyes so I closed my curtains because I was scared. ........
BBC

A 25-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of murder and is in custody. Detectives said there is no suggestion the killing had a terrorist motive.
The man is in hospital being treated for injuries suffered when he was arrested, police said.
Commander Simon Letchford: "These sort of events are very unusual" (wow...... really!!)

Another resident Freda Odame, 30, saw a screaming man waving a weapon around.
"I heard shouting and banging and I opened my curtains and saw a guy holding a knife in a back garden a few doors along," she said.
London Ambulance Service said they sent a number of resources to the scene including London's Air Ambulance, an ambulance crew and a duty manager.
Tragic, he was injured when he was arrested. Another one for the Court of Human Rights.