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OFSO
7th Jan 2014, 10:12
If you were Prime Minister of a small island located in the eastern Atlantic which had been battered by a series of storms and flooded by heavy rain and storm surges, and to save money you were faced with the choice of sacking thousands of staff presently employed on alleviating flood & storm damage or reducing subsidies to foreign counties such as India, China, Pakistan, etc., which would you chose ?

Answers on a postcard please ! (On second thoughts don't bother since the answer is obvious to everyone except to Dave).

gunbus
7th Jan 2014, 10:16
Surely a pin head would suffice, bearing in mind one would be sending it to such :E

Lon More
7th Jan 2014, 10:28
After Clegg's public falling out yesterday maybe a cross on a bit of paper in about a month's time might be enough (I won't hold my breathe waiting though. Camerloon will try to hang onto Downing Street even longer than Blair))

Worrals in the wilds
7th Jan 2014, 10:30
I dunno, maybe he thinks this sort of thing demonstrates 'community engagement'...:}
http://emersondirect.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/simpsons-mob-torches.jpg
Hitting emergency services while there's an actual emergency in progress is not usually a good political move. :hmm:

Lon More
7th Jan 2014, 10:35
Looks like lots of clones of the leader of UKIP in the front row Worrals

Capetonian
7th Jan 2014, 10:37
In that position, I would not need to be making a choice as it would have been one of the first things I would have done on assuming power. And bugger the howls of protests about 'racism' from the fluffies. If they want to help, they can get on planes and go there, I'd even pay for their tickets. One way. I doubt if there would be much take up though.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
7th Jan 2014, 10:38
Hitting emergency services while there's an actual emergency in progress is not usually a good political move

Didn't stop Broon cutting the Defence budget 4 times whilst the UK was at war. But apparently :suspect: it's OK if you lie about it

Worrals in the wilds
7th Jan 2014, 10:48
But apparently http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/cwm13.gif it's OK if you lie about it
Rule 2 of politics. :yuk:

sitigeltfel
7th Jan 2014, 11:38
and to save money you were faced with the choice of sacking thousands of staff presently employed on alleviating flood & storm damage or reducing subsidies to foreign counties such as India, China, Pakistan, etc., which would you chose ?

Answers on a postcard please ! (On second thoughts don't bother since the answer is obvious to everyone except to Dave).

Prospect, the union which represents workers at the Environment Agency, is taking the opportunity of the floods to protest job cuts (https://www.prospect.org.uk/news/story/2014/January/3/Cameron-must-suspend-Environment-Agency-cuts) - “The government must call an immediate moratorium on 1,500 job cuts in the Environment Agency in the light of the flooding that has swept the UK this winter” – as if that would stop the rain. 1,500 job cuts sounds like a lot until you realise that it is only 10% of the bloated workforce.
Bloated? Well it is by international comparisons. Equivalent quangos in the rest of the world are much smaller, the Environment Agency for England alone has more staff than the Canadian, Danish, French, German, Swedish and Austrian equivalents, combined!
Only the US Environmental Protection Agency has more staff, (15,913 versus 11,200) hardly surprising given the US is some eighty times larger than the UK with six times the population. According to a whistle blower, blogging for “Inside the Environment Agency (http://www.insidetheenvironmentagency.co.uk/)“, based on international comparisons it has 9,000 too many and a billion plus budget that should be slashed in half. Some serious Treasury axe wielding required here…
WTF do they all do?

Fliegenmong
7th Jan 2014, 12:15
'If you were Prime Minster'?

.....I'd make it illegal to sell screwdrivers without magnetic ends......;)

Well...you did ask what I would do!:}

vulcanised
7th Jan 2014, 14:24
Well...you did ask what I would do!


I don't think he was talking to you. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wink2.gif

dubbleyew eight
7th Jan 2014, 14:31
I picked up a screwdriver the other day and discovered it wouldnt lift or hold the screw. down to the workshop and stroked it a few times on a magnet I use to collect iron dust on my bandsaw. problem solved.

fliegenmong if you cant fix a problem that simple you'll never make prime minister. ...or maybe you will. that'd be a worry. :E

tony draper
7th Jan 2014, 15:08
Dont buy one of those Neodymium magnetic screwdrivers,twill hold onto your screw and never let it go,
:uhoh:

Nick Riviera
7th Jan 2014, 15:12
After Clegg's public falling out yesterday maybe a cross on a bit of paper in about a month's time might be enough (I won't hold my breathe waiting though. Camerloon will try to hang onto Downing Street even longer than Blair))

I really wouldn't hold your breath. The Fixed-Term Parliaments Act 2011 renders your post irrelevant. It even gives the date of the next election - 7th May 2015 if you are interested.

SMT Member
7th Jan 2014, 15:13
I don't know, must it be either flood damage control public servants OR foreign aid? No other sources of revenue, like, perhaps The City? You know, the thieving fokktards who robbed you blind and proceeded to post record profits? You know, surely, they're also busy buying the silence of courts all over the place, often to the size of billions, allowing their executives to go free for what lesser mortals would see multiple years imprisonment for?

Well, here's a radical idea: Slap the bill on those bastards, however impossible it may seem. I'm not a socialist, far from it, but to see a country being raped so fully, and repeatedly, whilst it's politicians are simultaneously keeping themselves busy offering BJs to any and all bankers within sight is, frankly, pathetic and sickening. It is time, ladies and gentlemen, to rid yourself of this scourge of the earth.

Let them p1ss off to Dubai, or Qatar, or some other place where corporate ethics is something you only have on paper, if they can't stand the heat. For your collective good I actually hope they would. Then, perhaps, the UK might find the reason it needs to get out of it's lull, and get back to the business of running a country properly, without owing the overwhelming part of it's allegiance to one single, deeply rotten and completely untrustworthy, industry.

But, before they leave, have them deposit a few hundred Billion with the BoE first. Nah, be greedy like they are, and sting them for a cool Trillion. Make sure to write them a nastily framed 'fark off' letter just to add insult to injury - they'll know and appreciate why you did it.

teeteringhead
7th Jan 2014, 15:29
What got me was the same day the cuts-in-emergency-staff-drama was in the papers, there was a chap on the wireless from some health quango (NICE possibly) campaigning to stop people bringing cakes into work, 'cause it encourages unhealthy lifestyles and is oppressive (sic) to dieters and diabetics!!

Is that really what my tax pays for? :ugh::ugh:

Lon More
7th Jan 2014, 17:08
The Fixed-Term Parliaments Act 2011 renders your post irrelevant. It even gives the date of the next election - 7th May 2015 if you are interested.
I'd forgotten that bit of legislation. Undoubtedly if Blair/Brown had tried it there would have been calls from some here for revolution. However, there is hope. According to this blog (http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/archives/20795) it's not set in stone

OFSO
7th Jan 2014, 18:14
it's not set in stone

It can be earlier but not later.

BTW you have to admire Gordon Brown. It couldn't have been easy making yourself more detested than Tony Blair, but he did, folks, he did.

Rosevidney1
7th Jan 2014, 18:33
On the TV news just now was a piece on the Somerset levels flooding. One temporary solution would be to build up an earthen bank by a foot or so - but under EU regulations this cannot be done as the earth may contain toxins. I hope I misheard this as it is too surreal surely?

Capetonian
7th Jan 2014, 18:37
Not sure I agree. They were both useless, far worse than useless really. GB was a scruffy obnoxious bully, but pretty much what you saw was what you got. Fundamentally, I believe, a decent man who didn't set out to enrich himself beyond what is normal for someone in his position.

Bliar is a sickening smarmy smug smirking sycophantic money-grabbing mercenary self-interested duplicitous lying slimebag. And as for his wife ........ let's not even go there. I detest Bliar far more than GB, just the sound of his voice makes me want to throw up. I have to say that Cameron has a similar effect.

vulcanised
7th Jan 2014, 19:58
Have to agree with you there, Cape.

Undoubtedly full of faults but I always felt GB tried to do the right and decent thing.

Fareastdriver
7th Jan 2014, 20:38
I always felt GB tried to do the right and decent thing.

That's why all the British Occupational Pension schemes collapsed.

radeng
8th Jan 2014, 09:22
Part of this trouble is the way in which they get a degree in political science - or whatever the current trendy name is - and never do any proper work.

vee-tail-1
8th Jan 2014, 10:10
Sigh! This is PPRuNe and we like to have a good moan/rant about things ... particularly politicians and politics.

Nothing changes ... the system rolls on ... we all have a good standard of living, and making changes could put that at risk.

But the system is plainly wrong. We don't have real democracy anywhere in the western world. Instead we have a sort of serial dictatorship by self interested elites. If we are lucky the system throws up an occasional real leader, but these never come from political science graduates.

What would a real democracy look like? Is a real democracy even possible? If some of us here were given the power to make real changes, or even start with a clean sheet to redesign the government of our country ... how would that look?

Yes I know... it's raining and I am bored and SWMBO is out shopping :rolleyes:

Worrals in the wilds
8th Jan 2014, 10:24
But the system is plainly wrong. We don't have real democracy anywhere in the western world. Instead we have a sort of serial dictatorship by self interested elites. If we are lucky the system throws up an occasional real leader, but these never come from political science graduates.
An elected oligarchy, according to an Ancient Greek Politics professor I remember fondly (both for his lectures and personality). His personal theory was that we had an oligarchy of professional politicians and the populace generally elected representatives from within that group. The occasional independent wasn't enough to disrupt the system or change any outcomes.

MagnusP
8th Jan 2014, 14:36
If I was Prime Minister:

I'd be bumping nasties with SamCam. Not a repulsive thought. :E

TomJoad
8th Jan 2014, 18:50
If I was Prime Minister:

I would engage Alex Salmond in a face-to-face debate:p

Pass a law stopping politician speaking with their hands and saying crap like "going forward" "look" and "hard working families"

Capetonian
8th Jan 2014, 18:55
If I were Prime Minister .......

I would ban the left wing opposition.

OFSO
8th Jan 2014, 19:47
If I were Prime Minister....I would occasionally make a decision and stick to it. Not too often, you understand, just often enough that I wasn't considered a dithering useless fence-sitter. I might also take a look at opposition parties coming up from behind in the fast lane and ask myself whether perhaps they didn't have a few good ideas I could steal.

Solid Rust Twotter
9th Jan 2014, 04:20
Pragmatism instead of self interest, Mr OFSO?


Silly twisted boy. It'll never work...:}

crewmeal
9th Jan 2014, 05:45
If I were PM? I would give my job to Nigel Farage. I am not worthy of such a position. I know nothing. I just give my hard earned money to the Govt to spend on Europe. I stand there nodding my head everytime an MP opens their mouth and spews out garbage. I like that Mr Fish who wants to break up the UK and go it alone so the Scottish people can pay more tax to run this new toy.

Now can I get on with my life please?