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Captain Douglas
4th Feb 2002, 00:04
Anyone know what the take off minima(RVR and cloud base) is for a pilot with an IR. Let's say a non public transport flight on a single crew aircraft? eg PA23

If anyone knows the official reference where one could find such info. please let me know as I have been trying to find it all day long and I got fed up looking.

easondown
4th Feb 2002, 00:37
Capt D,

I believe the info you are looking is :

For non public transport single engine (irrespective of pilot qualification or licence) is 600ft cloud base for take off and 1800m RVR. I think the minimum cloud ceiling for public transport single engine is 1000ft.

Any other offers ???

inverted flatspin
4th Feb 2002, 08:46
In the US N reg Part 91 you can legally take off on a private flight 0-0.

Not that anyone ever does the prevailing attitude is thanks for allowing us but that would be a bad idea. The airlines or infact anyone carrying people for hire have minimums set out in the revlevant FAR chapter.

twistedenginestarter
4th Feb 2002, 13:29
Capt D

Try CAP507 which supports what onemore has said.

This reminds us that JAR OPS 1 does not permit commercial operations in IMC for a single engined aircraft.

RVR800
4th Feb 2002, 13:57
Onemorehold . .single crew not single engine. .ME I believe it's RVR800

easondown
4th Feb 2002, 15:50
RVR,

Of course u r correcet RVR with the multi engine criteria, but that is only one of them ! The rest of the regs regarding multi engine are;

(1) For a multi engine aircraft with no engine out climb capability the minima is 600ft cloud and 1800m RVR.. .(2) For a multi engine aircraft with a climbout capability of less than 150ft per minute one engine out) the minima is 600ft cloud and 1500ft RVR.. .(3) For a multi engine aircraft exceeding 150ft/min climb (one engine out) the minima are 300ft cloud and 800m RVR.

The above applies to aircraft under 5700kg.

Captain Douglas
4th Feb 2002, 17:48
Onemorehold,

Where may one find this information that you have disclosed?

easondown
4th Feb 2002, 19:08
Capt D,

Its just info that I carry around in my head !!, no but seriously I dug it out from the UK AIP RAC 4-3-2 (14 mar 96) subsection 3.2 and 3.3

Now do you have any difficult questions ??