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Blacksheep
16th Dec 2013, 10:57
Missus BS loves shopping, itís her favourite pastime. On Saturday we went to ĎStalbansí as usual but after just half an hour sheíd had enough and we headed home. Shops full of Tat; crowds of families with screaming kids, elbowing each other out of the way; ďXmasĒ music.

What happened to Christmas? Now itís all about the retail trade making good their imaginary losses over the rest of the year. Father bloody Xmas, invented in the USA by PR consultants to help flog Tat to screaming kids; Rudolf the red nosed bloody reindeer; Jingle effing bells; Iím dreaming of a White Christmas Ė Really? Well bugga-off to Lapland then: itís generally white enough there at this time of year. Personally I preferred the 35 degree heat of Borneo when eating my Xmas dinner.

Weíre celebrating the mid-winter solstice with the family as usual this year. Xmas Day at No.2ís and again on Saturday at No.3ís. Thereíll be daft hats, and Xmas crackers . . . Wait a minute. Xmas crackers: whatís that all about eh? Would you care to pull a cracker with me at Easter? Perhaps we might give them up for Lent. Lent? Whatís that you say? Lent is when Christians fast to commemorate Jesusís sojourn in the wilderness. Weíre supposed to have a ĎChristianĎ culture arenít we?

We did once and Christmas was special. As was Easter, and Lent. Dragging greenery into the house was a pagan thing. Mistletoe in particular had some not-so-nice connotations - especially if youíd been selected as the mid-winter sacrifice by the local Druids. There was once a time when, if you found a fat old fellow sneaking into the childrenís bedroom at mid-night, youíd be perfectly entitled to smack him round the head with a cudgel and have his body hung at the town gates as an example to other over-indulgent kiddy-fiddlers.

Xmas?
Bah! Humbug. Pure humbug. Letís get back either to celebrating the birth of the Saviour or else offering human sacrifices to procure the reversal of the Sun Godís southward march. But for goodness sake, letís be done with this insane orgy of Tat buying and the exchanging of that same Tat on 25th December.

500N
16th Dec 2013, 11:07
Agree, it's all commercial now.

I have never been much into Xmas since coming out here to Aus and then had a family spat many years ago so now I piss off on a plane and spend it with a mate and his wife in the middle of nowhere.

I have 10 times more fun, no pressure, no family spats and come back refreshed.

david1300
16th Dec 2013, 11:21
Blacksheep, the choice is yours as to how and what you celebrate. The 1300 household restricts shopping and exchanges personally made gifts as a show of our personal love and care for each other, and we also give hand made gifts to a wider group of people too. Each is given with a prayer that the recipient will experience the peace of God that passes all understanding. And yes, we celebrate the birth of the Saviour, but no necessarily linking it directly to 'Christmas'. We are grateful we have the choice and the freedom to exercise our choice.

charliegolf
16th Dec 2013, 11:25
Pure humbug. Letís get back either to celebrating the birth of the Saviour or else offering human sacrifices to procure the reversal of the Sun Godís southward march.

I do the former (let's not get into mud-slinging about imaginary friends eh?). Scrooge had it right, "You keep Christmas (never Xmas) your way, and leave me to do the same!" Or similar, sorry Charles!

Merry Christmas BS!

CG

haughtney1
16th Dec 2013, 11:29
Blacksheep, you committed the cardinal sin in the UK of shopping at the weekend, it's a horrid experience!
Tuesday morning before 11am ensures little in the way of crowds, plus most of the weekend stock has been replenished.
A much more productive and satisfying experience....works for grocery shopping as well.
Avoid anything retail related in the UK Fri/Sat/Sun at all costs.

probes
16th Dec 2013, 11:44
What happened to Christmas?
Nothing - it's still there. Not the shops for sure, but why go shopping? We have a quiet family dinner and go to the graves of the dear ones who used to be. Candles lit and peace of mind, what more could one wish for.
P.S small presents, too.

sitigeltfel
16th Dec 2013, 11:47
What happened to Christmas? Now itís all about the retail trade making good their imaginary losses over the rest of the year.

It seems to all kick off once the last Easter egg has been cleared from the shelves.

Andy_S
16th Dec 2013, 11:50
What happened to Christmas? Now itís all about the retail trade making good their imaginary losses over the rest of the year. Father bloody Xmas, invented in the USA by PR consultants to help flog Tat to screaming kids; Rudolf the red nosed bloody reindeer; Jingle effing bells; Iím dreaming of a White Christmas Ė Really?

I know what you mean.

To be fair, you can never recapture the magical feeling that Christmas had when you were a kid, but itís getting increasingly beyond parody. A simple celebration has become a huge, out of control monster. To such an extent that Iím pretty sure if Christmas were arbitrarily abolished, there would be a serious global recession.

500N
16th Dec 2013, 11:52
"you committed the cardinal sin ................. of shopping at the weekend,"

I get that impression from my GF, that it is a nightmare.

Thank god for on line.

Solid Rust Twotter
16th Dec 2013, 11:53
...or else offering human sacrifices to procure the reversal of the Sun Godís southward march....


Cleaning out parliament with a chainsaw and a couple of gallons of unleaded? Best Christmas ever!:ok:

Octopussy2
16th Dec 2013, 12:24
On the other hand...

the look of absolute joy and enchantment on my 5-year-old's face when he got to hold the lit Christingle at the end of the service yesterday, and the gusto with which he joined in the Christingle song which we'd been practicing all week...

Your Christmas only has to be as commercial as YOU want it to be. Do what suits you.

probes your Christmas sounds lovely.

ricardian
16th Dec 2013, 12:33
Folk forget that Advent starts on 1 Dec, Christmas starts on 25 Dec and Epiphany starts on 6 Jan! As previously mentioned Christmas nowadays is a retail sales opportunity. Someone once mentioned overhearing a person saying "They're even trying to put religion into Christmas nowadays"

racedo
16th Dec 2013, 12:48
Bah! Humbug. Pure humbug. Letís get back either to celebrating the birth of the Saviour

Its what we do.
Our Kids know that Christmas celebrates birth of baby Jesus, yup there is Santa but they really not we want we want.

Do remember on Christmas day a number of years ago roping in a Polish couple at mass to come and celebrate Christmas dinner with us. They celebrate Christmas eve. It was good for us and them.

Blacksheep
16th Dec 2013, 13:20
Your Christmas only has to be as commercial as YOU want it to be.Ours is. It's the others . . . ;)

As I've said esewhere, my favourite Christmas song is "Oh come All Ye Faithful" as it is actually about Christmas. I detest all the incessant jingles and jangles about dashing through the snow, red-nosed reindeers, Noddy Holden's pension fund ["Here it is, Merry Xmas"], White Chrissmasses, and so on ad nauseam. Santa and his bloody daft elves don't exist and if he did, he'd be nothing to do with Christmas anyhow.

Bah! Humbug. All of it. Humbug.

Plazbot
16th Dec 2013, 13:27
Wtf is Tat?

probes
16th Dec 2013, 13:31
No, but seriously - it is what you want it to be. If you've got (grand)kids, it's merrier, if you're around 20, it's probably more kissing under the mistletoe, if you're religious, you go to church. If I never notice commercials - why would I around Christmas-time? As for shop windows - why not, nice to look at the decorations and want less at home :ouch:. Our presents are always minimalistic - mostly just one thing spotted somewhere, mostly weeks before. So the 24th is a date everyone books for being together and we love it.

P.S but then, I've always hated shopping anyway. :sad:

Super VC-10
16th Dec 2013, 13:31
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tat

cattletruck
16th Dec 2013, 13:42
I hate driving during the lead up to Christmas, too many looneys testing my patience and defensive driving skills in their mindless quest for that special gift. I had a job on the other side of town today and almost got wiped off twice, and saw someone almost cause a biggie as I was feeding the meter. :ugh:

Now Boxing Day sales is something I don't understand, sounds like an easy way to get rid of worthless stock. Christmas day is alright by comparison.

ExXB
16th Dec 2013, 14:59
We're often to N. Cyprus this year and I was hopeful that in a secular muslim state where the few christiens celebrate the 8th of January (or is it the 6th) that we would be immune.

But, hotel web-site is welcoming everyone to their christmas celebrations on the 25th.

{sigh}

G&T ice n slice
16th Dec 2013, 15:23
This year, same as last year (and the year before that etc)

Get up, do the usual ablutions & cup of caffeine water, walk dog.

If weather acceptable... go off & spend day wandering around Ennerdale

if weather is rubbish.... catch up with work in hope that I can take "time off in lieu" at later date

have supper, go to bed.

On a good day this means avoiding virtually everyone & not having to mouth platitudes.

what a miserable, cantankerous old git I am

27mm
16th Dec 2013, 16:19
G&T, count your blessings, as your Christmas sounds like heaven to me. :ok:

radeng
16th Dec 2013, 16:34
I'm rather with Blacksheep.

Bah! Humbug!

lomapaseo
16th Dec 2013, 16:38
Why is it that Christmas of old in our memory always was better in our minds.

Every now and then I take out my old home movies and sound tapes of generations ago and listen to our christmas of old and think of the fond memories.

MadsDad
16th Dec 2013, 16:40
Drat, thread title reminded me I have forgotten to lay in a supply of Humbugs whilst shopping today (veg, fruit, tinned toms., marmalade).

They are to be handed round at the quiz later in the week, in the spirit of the season.

tony draper
16th Dec 2013, 16:51
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/Deaddogbay/second%20album/bah_humbug-e1269152112652_zps0a076772.gif (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/Deaddogbay/media/second%20album/bah_humbug-e1269152112652_zps0a076772.gif.html)
:rolleyes:

Plazbot
16th Dec 2013, 18:44
Ah, now I get it! Giving stuff to people for your and their enjoyment is not up the pole as fas as worshipping a 2000 year old zombie wizard to fuel your personal hope. Phew, thanks for this.

sitigeltfel
16th Dec 2013, 19:24
Why is it that Christmas of old in our memory always was better in our minds.

The fun wears off when you become old enough to foot the bills.

ExSp33db1rd
17th Dec 2013, 08:39
and won't we be glad when it's all over - for few days, or so it seems as the years speed by !

Nervous SLF
17th Dec 2013, 09:01
No doubt some will think I am strange ( I know I am at times ) but I like watching the people shopping at supermarkets
on Christmas Eve. They fill their baskets and trolleys to over flowing and queue for ages to pay. It is as though the shop will be
closed for a week when actually it re-opens on Boxing Day.:)

I have to admit to feeling a bit ashamed of myself this year as for various reasons I am feeling rather "down". I feel ashamed because
a couple of people we know are really ill and if they survive more than a couple more months that will be a miracle. I also read on
here in different sections about others bad health. :(

Alloa Akbar
17th Dec 2013, 09:05
Oh no.. another "I hate Christmas" thread!!

Lads ( and lassies!)

Is it that difficult..

Don't like being spoon fed xmas frivolity on the telly? Turn it off.

Don't like the superficial offers and tacky gifts? Get yourself down to your nearest xmas market and get some german sausage, a few chestnuts and some tasty winter beers down your head.. leave the lemmings to John Lewis's.

My plan is simple.. Xmas eve - Family and friends round ours for some home made food, wine and beer - No TV, just a bunch of us catching up and shooting the shit.

Xmas day - Traditional day - Presents for the kids, then xmas dinner followed by more of the home made festive fare in good company.

Boxing day - Down to the local rugby club in the morning to take part in the annual "Fat old men's charity game" followed by.. you guessed it, more good company, a few warming drinks and a good time..

Not a TV or iPad in sight!

Merry Christmas to all of you.. you miserable buggers! :p:ok:

Nervous SLF - Sorry to read that, and you are right, there will be many for whom Christmas (like any other day) will be a challenge. I guess nothing can change that, but hey, maybe the best way forward is to try and create a few more happy times and memories, difficult though that may be.

All the best.
AA

Capetonian
17th Dec 2013, 09:36
As I've never been a believer the religious aspect of Christmas has never meant anything to me even thought my parents tried to force it into us, more as a cultural thing than a belief, and try to get the family together for the usual squabbles and bickering.

The best Christmases I had were when I was young and single and a few mates and I used to go down to Clifton Beach (CPT - summer) with a couple of bottles of cheap wine or a few sixpacks of Windhoek Lager and a roast chicken or two, sit and talk kak all day and get tanned. Nubile young maidens may have been part of the equation too. In the evening when the sun set we'd set off to the Hard Cock Cafe as we called it and down Irish Coffees until it was time to go home and sleep it all off. Sometimes I'd go with my Spanish ex g/f to midnight mass at the Cathedral in Roeland Street, it was always quite a grand occasion with Latin Mass and candles and so on, but I was invariably bored after an hour or so, and then we'd go to the aforementioned Hard Cock and meet the rest of the gang and sit there till dawn broke or they threw us out, whichever was first.

Moving a few years ahead, it became the time of the year I hated most, the fake jollity, the commercialism, the incessant begging for handouts, the guilt trip, the sodding Christmas Carols, drunken men with paper hats pulling crackers .......

Most of my friends were no longer single although as time moved on many became single again and a couple of the best Christmases I had as an adult were when my OH went off to her tribal home (MiL etc) and I spent the few days home alone being a filthy slob, or cooking a meal for a few other single friends.

This Christmas .......... oh bollocks, I don't even want to think about it. The only bright light is that I'll be cooking Christmas lunch for 15 or so people and as long as the witch on the broomstick keeps out of my way and leaves me in the kitchen to sample the sherry I'll be as happy as a k...... with a Barclaycard as we say in SA , or used to until the k-word became illegal.

And I can't get used to Christmas being in the winter in bloody Europe. In my mind it is always summer and there's something fundamentally wrong with Christmas when you can't go out and sweat in the sun in shorts and no top.

Blacksheep
17th Dec 2013, 13:30
My Xmas will be much like yours, Alloa. It's the eight weeks of commercial pressure we face, even when doing the weekly shopping or while atching a normally favourite TV show. I suppose we could buy in three-quarters of a tonne of rations at the end of October, store it in the garage and then turn the TV to face the wall until well into the next year. But that would be silly, don't you think?

A young chap sang the first verse of "Once in David's Royal City" on the radio this morning but they didn't let him sing any more.

Windy Militant
17th Dec 2013, 13:51
I suppose we could buy in three-quarters of a tonne of rations at the end of October, store it in the garage
B:mad:er I've just noticed that all the mince pie's I bought in August have time expired :uhoh: I suppose I'll have to buy some fresh ones. On the other hand I could get some Easter eggs instead. :ok:
Reminds me of the Dave Allen joke about the Little Jewish boy who was asked by his teacher what was the thing he liked most about Christmas. He replied " Going down to my dads empty toy warehouse, singing two choruses of Oh what a friend we have in Jesus, then flying off to the Bahamas for ten days" :}

Tankertrashnav
17th Dec 2013, 15:27
Once again it's time for the time honoured Christmas tradition of posting the Tom Lehrer Christmas carol clip from You Tube!

Tom Lehrer - A Christmas Carol - YouTube