View Full Version : Most of our western leaders are off on a jolly to South Africa...

9th Dec 2013, 17:27
Most will have already left by now, so as to arrive there in time for the official funeral of Nelson Mandela on Tuesday.

Seems to me, that this may be one of the few and extremely rare opportunities for the general population "to rise up and create mayhem", whilst the cat is away...

What have you yourself planned to do, if nothing, why not...?! :ok::confused:

9th Dec 2013, 17:41
Mrs Queen will hold the ramparts while Charles is in SA.

Kim Jong-un is hesitating, but fancies a bit of black.

Xi Jinping is replaceable if the peasants do revolt.

Who else?

9th Dec 2013, 17:51
Cameron's got a brass neck. He took a 'little jolly' to SA in 1989, except back then he was firmly on the"no sanctions for apartheid" side of the argument. How times change....

9th Dec 2013, 17:55
Cameron will go and utter the usual meaningless platitudes.

Komrad Hollande of the French Soviet Socialist Republic will meet his communist cronies to discuss further expropriation of privately owned assets and will be brown nosing with Komrad Mugape, despotic ruler of Zimbabwe. His limited intelligence (Hollande I mean, as Mugape is far from stupid) will inhibit much dialogue there.

Retard Rajoy of Spain will mumble in broken English as he lets the drifting ship of Spain drift further onto the rocks of destruction.

There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. It will be a sickening spectacle of syrupy sycophantic sentimentality.

9th Dec 2013, 18:29
All the worlds leading crooks, despots and tyrants gathering in one small space.

I have a cunning plan :E

9th Dec 2013, 18:42
Harper is on his way to lie to everyone, with Mulroney as his backup.

Lon More
9th Dec 2013, 18:43
Cameron's got a brass neck

Last thing you could call him would be two-faced. If he was he wouldn't be wearing he one he's got. Looks like a skelped erse as Gran would say.

9th Dec 2013, 18:58
The recently upgraded Mthatha Airport will be a tad busy.

Mthatha airport ready for dignitaries | DestinyConnect (http://www.destinyconnect.com/2013/12/09/mthatha-airport-ready-for-dignitaries/)

None of the above
9th Dec 2013, 19:01
When Milton Obote was in Singapore at the Commonwealth Prime Ministers' Conference, one Idi Amin quietly assumed power in Uganda. We know how that ended, don't we?

Be careful what you wish for, chaps.

9th Dec 2013, 19:21
If we are lucky, they will stay there. :p

9th Dec 2013, 19:44
All joking aside, it must be a security nightmare.

9th Dec 2013, 19:54
Tributes in the commons today. Charlie Kennedy (one time leader of the Lib Dems) relating how he and a delegation visited SA on a "fact finding" mission, only to discover that the country was awash with politicians from all over the world, doing the same thing.....he was sure that the fact that the Rugby World cup was taking place there was pure coincidence. Some really amusing anecdotes from several politicians....Gordon Browns speech particularly funny.

9th Dec 2013, 20:03
Harper is on his way to lie to everyone, with Mulroney as his backup.

Except that being accompanied by Chretien, the cretin of al cretins the Canadian media will forget about them and focus on him.

9th Dec 2013, 21:03
There'd be more than a few out there thinking that this would be a perfect opportunity for "a Tom Clancy moment".

9th Dec 2013, 22:11
MANUNITED : Cameron's got a brass neck. Impossible it would need a spine to support it

9th Dec 2013, 22:13
All joking aside, it must be a security nightmare.I know very well someone who used to work SS Presidential Security for foreign travel. You are spot on. :ok:

9th Dec 2013, 22:17
Like con-pilot

We don't want the bugg*rs back! Keep them!

Although that could be considered unfair to South Africa....

9th Dec 2013, 22:21
All joking aside, it must be a security nightmare.

By God I'll drink to that. You are very correct.

But then again, I'll drink to about anything, the sun came up, the sun set, the sun is in the sky and it's alwyas happy hour somewhere. :p

Lon More
9th Dec 2013, 22:27
All joking aside, it must be a security nightmare

'Tis a bugger trying to get Cameron in my sights :=

9th Dec 2013, 22:28
To paraphrase Betjeman

"Come lovely Asteroid and fall on......................"

10th Dec 2013, 01:23
One commentator said they'll all be safe as houses, for every ex-terrorist now politician in the world will be there, so the current terrorists won't want any harm to come to their sponsors.

The asteroid scenario beckons though. I don't think you'd get beyond the fingers on one hand if you tried listing those among the current crop of "leaders" in any part of the world who could be considered to be doing a halfway decent job, so the world might really benefit if they all 'retired' from public life at the same time for some reason.

I suppose I should close with a warning to self: "be careful of what you wish for..."

10th Dec 2013, 01:44
The asteroid scenario beckons though. I don't think you'd get beyond the fingers on one hand if you tried listing those among the current crop of "leaders" in any part of the world who could be considered to be doing a halfway decent job,

Stephen Harper:ok:

West Coast
10th Dec 2013, 02:55
Not that I drop in on Canadian politics all the time, but I like Harper. Admittedly I'm a little biased towards conservative viewpoints.

10th Dec 2013, 04:12
OK. that's one. Four more before most of us run out of fingers on that first hand.

Maybe Stephen Harper can be our 21st century Jack Ryan.

10th Dec 2013, 05:15
With all the Heavy Weights in one tippy end of the World....oh....the possibilities!

Can you imagine the fire fight if some of the Lads get twitched about something?

All those fancy Jets doing a quick getaway......now where was all those 400 missing MANPAD's Madame Clinton lost care, custody, and control of in Benghazi?

Reckon we might hear of a few of them being "discovered" down south over the next few days?

Mac the Knife
10th Dec 2013, 05:43
Locked up for EIGHT hours for telling Nelson Mandela joke | Latest News | Latest Breaking News | Daily Star. Simply The Best 7 Days A Week (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/354830/Locked-up-for-EIGHT-hours-for-telling-Nelson-Mandela-joke)

The PC Police are coming to get you.....



PS: I though the joke was hilarious ;)

unstable load
10th Dec 2013, 08:50
All of you lot suggesting that it might be nice if they stayed there after the funeral, wash your mouths out with mustard, please.
We have enough to deal with from our own Poli's and certainly don't need the dregs of the rest of the world muddying the waters...:=

Training Risky
10th Dec 2013, 09:00
I have just read a signal at work ordering all HM Forces' units to fly flags at half mast all-day due to the grief-whore fest in SA. So do we do this when ANY ex-president from whereever dies? It beggars belief.

10th Dec 2013, 09:18
Training Risky, I thought there were quite formal protocols in place (or there were in my days in uniform) as to whom the national flag could or would be lowered for. In these days of Political Correctness, I suppose any such old fashioned things as protocols have been tossed out the window.

The way every political leader and media talking head in the West is trying to outdo each other in paying embarrassing fawning homage to a man whose reputation is, let's face it, as much myth as fact, disturbs me. I'm reminded of the collective madness of the run on Tulip futures in Holland three or four hundred years ago.

10th Dec 2013, 09:24
Locked up for EIGHT hours for telling Nelson Mandela joke | Latest News | Latest Breaking News | Daily Star. Simply The Best 7 Days A Week (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/354830/Locked-up-for-EIGHT-hours-for-telling-Nelson-Mandela-joke)

The PC Police are coming to get you.....



Careful now Mac. Airpish had a pop at me on the other thread for pointing out this inconvenient fact. :rolleyes:

10th Dec 2013, 09:37
I wonder if after the funeral BBC reporters will be camped outside the graveyard awaiting The Resurrection.

10th Dec 2013, 15:47
airship uni-laterally declares: 7 days of evenings. And why not afternoons and nights too...?! Especially for all of those, like me, who have difficulties in waking up in the mornings...

10th Dec 2013, 16:53
Obama will be there bowing and apologizing to everyone, and anyone, within sight.

Dak Man
10th Dec 2013, 16:56
Great opportunity for a "selfie" how very unstatesman like.


10th Dec 2013, 17:03
Michelle Obama doesn't seem too impressed with her husband's selfie-taking.
I bet when they get back to wherever they're staying tonight she kicks his ass for it: a sound wuppin'.

10th Dec 2013, 17:21
If he plays his cards right ;)

10th Dec 2013, 17:26
Locked up for telling Nelson Mandela joke

Jeez, when Kennedy was shot, within days jokes were going around our school along the lines of :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Actually they were certainly worse than this guy's joke - I expect nowadays we'd all get expelled, or worse.

Anyway another solid day of Radio 3 for me here, and I expect Saturday will be the same, whether at home or in the car - managed to avoid all the nause so far!

10th Dec 2013, 17:38
I only listen to radio 4 these days and it often gets crowded out by another station. Usually much to my annoyance but not when it drowned out the news at 5pm tonight.

This weekend was also the first time I have switched off FOOC.

You would think the BBC might get the message when none of the plethora of related stories appear in their 'Most Popular' listing.

B Fraser
10th Dec 2013, 20:21
A man gets locked up for telling a joke while poppy burning @rseholes who swear in the face of the police and incite murder get off free ? Some parts of this country are broken beyond repair.

11th Dec 2013, 15:12
Just who is the blonde sitting between Barack and David above? And sorry for my ignorance, I thought it might have been Madeleine Abright but I'm pretty sure she is a lot older. Whatever, Mrs. Obama doesn't appear to look very impressed...

PS. Everyone should automatically be "locked up", in solitary confinement where possible, or football stadiums etc. if not. Until their innocence is proven beyond any reasonable doubt (or they are willing to repeat the mantra "on demand": "Everyone is happy in our country")... :rolleyes:

11th Dec 2013, 15:22
The blond, airship, is Helle Thorning-Schmidt, the Prime Minister of Denmark.

You really need to get out more airship. :}

11th Dec 2013, 15:40
Denmark is where all the bacon I buy comes from?! Is it also a country, like Hungry (sorry, Hungary)...?! ;)

11th Dec 2013, 15:48
I wasn't aware that Denmark is known for its bacon. Its beer, yes, but bacon?

I guess whatever floats your boat.

Hungary isn't a country, airship, it's part of Canada. Everyone knows that. (Except for you, obviously.)

11th Dec 2013, 16:07
who is the blonde sitting between Barack and David?Helle Thorning-Schmidt (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/11/helle-thorning-schmidt-fun-facts_n_4424047.html), Danish Prime Minister (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helle_Thorning-Schmidt).

I wasn't aware that Denmark is known for its bacon.
Danish bacon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Bacon) is almost all exported (Britain takes a huge amount).

Pigs are raised in indoor sheds, so you rarely see them, but the Danes do consume a lot of pork.

11th Dec 2013, 17:14
I thought Cameron was in JNB yesterday, apparently he was on PMQ this afternoon, is he going back for the funeral on Sunday?

12th Dec 2013, 01:01
Given the political bent of the current Danish government, I expect that Barack was simply pals-ing up to her to gain some more leftist talking points for the next few months.

12th Dec 2013, 07:51
As Call Me Dave said in PMQs yesterday, "when someone in the Kinnock family asks me for a photo, it is only polite to oblige."

Solid Rust Twotter
12th Dec 2013, 08:33
For some it was just another business day as usual...

Burglars broke into the home of South African Nobel Peace laureate Archbishop Desmond Tutu while he was away for the memorial service of Nelson Mandela, officials say.

It was not yet clear what had been stolen from the house in Cape Town on Wednesday night, his aide Roger Friedman told the AFP news agency.
Archbishop Tutu had been in Johannesburg for the service.
There was also a break-in at the Tutu home in August.
South Africa has one of the highest crime rates in the world.

"I can confirm that there was a burglary last [Wednesday] night," Mr Friedman is quoted as saying. "The house was not pillaged," he added.

Police said the burglary took place between 19:00 and 21:00 local time, the Associated Press news agency reports.

It is the second time that his home has been burgled. In August, a gang broke in when he and his wife were asleep and took a number of items.

Archbishop Tutu, 82, gave the closing prayer at the memorial, attended by tens of thousands of South Africans and world leaders.

"God, I ask you to bless our country," he said.

"You gave us a wonderful gift in this icon of reconciliation," he added, referring to Mr Mandela.

Seems JZ wasn't well received...

Johannesburg - While TV news broadcasters across the world led their bulletins with the booing of President Jacob Zuma at the memorial for Nelson Mandela yesterday, SABC’s prime-time newscasts all but erased the incidents from history.

City Press has learnt from six independent sources at the public broadcaster’s news division that various instructions were given to ban broadcasts of the booing.

The SABC has not responded to questions sent by City Press making these allegations.

The sources - from field reporters to producers to technical crew - do not wish to be named as they do not want to jeopardise their jobs, but have filled City Press in on how news bosses handled the booing situation.

SABC broadcasted the memorial live, beaming images of Zuma arriving at the FNB Stadium both on TV and on big screens inside, when elements in the crowd began to jeer and boo.

Some also gestured the soccer substitution sign.

'Cut away! Cut away!'

The incidents repeated when Zuma was shown in pans of the VIPs on the big screen until the live feed was cut on the screens, which showed an image of Mandela for about half an hour.

The live feed on the screens recommenced during US President Barack Obama’s speech.

In the SABC news studio, the crisis was managed, according to insiders, by Nyana Molete, the national TV news editor.

Sources say he strode into the control room in Auckland Park calling: “Cut away! Cut away! Cut away!” This, they say, was in line with the decision in a meeting before the broadcast to avoid broadcasting any incident that might embarrass the ANC leadership.

City Press believes presenters in the field complained about the control room instructions, which put them on the spot. Commentary was steered away from the booing.

Two separate sources confirmed that SABC radio reporters in the field received instructions over their cellphones when the booing happened. They were observed not commenting on or covering the crowd’s displeasure.

Another source told City Press that staff preparing the evening’s news bulletins received instructions, said to come from head of news Jimi Matthews, that the booing incidents would not be included and that booing should not be referred to, rather “unruly behaviour” by elements in the crowd.

E.tv 'bitter'

While eNews and eNCA made the booing their headline story, SABC3’s 19:00 news bulletin and prime-time 24-hour news channel coverage all but ignored it.

Media Monitoring Africa director William Bird confirmed this, saying: “There’s no mention of booing from our observation so far. Not in the SABC1 headline bulletin or the SABC3 headline bulletin. There’s not even mention of an unruly crowd”.

According to one independent monitor, the broadcasters’ websites followed suit.

By 15:00, it was the main story on the eNCA website with a clip of the booing. The first mention of it on the SABC website is four hours later just after 19:00, says the monitor. It is then only mentioned in a story about Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu’s rebuke of the crowd.

SABC news did, however, tweet about the booing, even storifying it by assembling tweeted reactions.

Observers of the SABC’s 24-hour news channel say that after prime-time, passing mentions were made to the booing and the unruly elements in the crowd.

SABC was sent questions about the editorial control of the booing three times since last night but had not responded at the time of publishing.

This is not the first booing incident the SABC has had to deal with. In 2005, e.tv aired footage proving that an SABC cameraman had been present and filming when then deputy president Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka was booed on Women’s Day by Zuma supporters.

The SABC had denied this and went on to issue an apology, which blamed the freelance cameraman for failing to record the booing and accused e.tv of being “bitter”.

In October this year, a similar incident occurred at the Marikana Commission of Inquiry, when a bereaved widow shouted at national police commissioner Riah Piyega. eNCA broadcast the confrontation but the SABC did not, according to reports.

No Dalai Lama though. Strange that...

12th Dec 2013, 09:02
No Dalai Lama though. Strange that...

No Pope either.

Probably biding his time for the second coming.

Lon More
12th Dec 2013, 10:09
I thought Cameron was in JNB yesterday, apparently he was on PMQ this afternoon, is he going back for the funeral on Sunday?

Much more important things to do to bolster up his failing policies and there'd be little chance to pontificate on tv at the funeral

12th Dec 2013, 11:11
Much more important things to do to bolster up his failing policies and there'd be little chance to pontificate on tv at the funeral

You seem to have already been reincarnated in a parallel universe where Millionaireband and (lick my) Balls appear to be economic wizards, and the financial calamity that occurred at their hands never happened.


There are now real grounds for optimism that the UK is finally on the road to recovery. The services sector continues to lead the recovery with retail sales picking up over the summer and hotels and restaurants generally seeming busier. But it is not just services that is picking up. UK manufacturers have benefited from somewhat stronger trends recently in our key European export markets. And the UK construction sector has also picked up from a low base in the past six months. We expect growth to strengthen further in 2014, but businesses should not be complacent: there are still plenty of economic risks out there to be monitored and managed as detailed in our report.Balls is really a suitable case for treatment with his attempt to airbrush history.


Balls comes out with the phrase "when in a hole stop digging".

Far from digging, the country has been successfully constructing a ladder in an attempt to climb out of the bomb crater blasted into the nations fabric by the sheer incompetence of the Labour party. It is something they always do when in power, and will do again if re-elected.

Anyone who believes otherwise is deluded beyond redemption.